| You aren't worth for most jobs. So there... |
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I got a degree in CS in 2001 and I make $160K working for the Government and my husband also works for the Government, and makes more than me not in Tech with an MBA and we live just fine.
You’re just trying to start trouble. Stop thinking wealthy is middle class. |
We’re at $250K with two earners. We’re very comfortable. We have no problem paying our mortgage, saving for college, saving for retirement, and still have $$ left over for things we don’t even need. And yes, this is in the DC region. |
Yes you have to work hard for them in the hopes of one day earning it while they keep moving the goal posts farther away |
Your title doesn't make sense. If a job isn't worth it financially, that means you would get a better return on your investment of time by not working. Are you saying you'd be better off on welfare? That's certainly not true. |
| I think OP is right and PP is right about housing costs. For those of you disagreeing, you clearly aren’t trying to buy a house NOW. And Mr. Boomer, yes going camping without my cell phone would make me happier - for like 2 days - but then I’d have to come back to the reality that I’m renting an expensive condo for God knows how long because I cannot afford to buy a house. |
NP and disagree that middle class is barely paying your bills. Middle class covers your needs and some wants and allows some savings for retirement (say 5-10% of salary but not maxing). Barely paying bills is working class. |
| 250k in DC is MC, it means you can afford a house, pay childcare costs, and afford to go on a niceish yearly vacation. We are at around that income level, and are comfortable because we bought our house 10 years ago, have paid off all student loans, and only have 1 child. I can't imagine being able to live comfortably if we had a higher mortgage and two kids in daycare for example. 250k sounds like a lot when you come from a modest background, but when you start calculating the COL in DC (especially for families), it is fine. All this to say, I agree with OP, when a CEO makes 400x/worker something is very off, and we all know those people don't deserve their wages. Most of upper management does not, their success is built on the backs of the worker bees, but salaries do not reflect that. |
How do you make this much working for the government? Are you both SES? |
| I’m a teacher and have always lived comfortably, even when my husband was unemployed for almost a year. Bought a house, a car, had a kid, have savings. And I’ll really be enjoying myself starting next week. 😂 |
How is the commute from Manassas? |
| So many people here are such snobs. My neighbor came over to our house and made a comment like "I can't imagine living with this kitchen." WTH? There is absolutely nothing wrong with our kitchen. The cabinets are old and the appliances don't match but everything works well. My teenage son asked me what she meant after she left. Teach your kids what is important. To me, that is my family and their health and happiness. Everything else is a bonus. |
I majored in history and now make $350k doing a much more interesting job than coding… But I agree with others that you can have a great life on 20 or 30 percent of that. |
Oh please, people make this comment touring most $1.5mil houses in DC. Lots of old poorly maintained shacks where even buying the third cheapest Home Depot oven sets your house apart from the rest. |
Longer than I want, but we love our Kensington neighborhood. |