Conservatives and climate change (a poll)

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Anonymous wrote:If you are conservative or libertarian, which statement describes your view?

A. Climate change is not real, or at least it is not man-made.
B. Climate change may be real, but there is nothing the government can and should do to mitigate it, because it won't change anything (climate change is inevitable regardless of what we do).
C. China and India pollute more, and therefore we should not try and reduce our emissions, because it will threaten our economic competitiveness.
D. Climate change is real, but government-driven efforts are more feel-good and greenwashing than actually effective.
E. Emissions reductions and greener initiatives should be entirely left to the free market to solve.
F. I acknowledge climate change, emissions, pollution, and various forms of environmental degradation but I just don't find it to be as important as other issues that affect me more directly.
G. Climate change is exaggerated and an excuse for governments to try and restrict our freedoms.
H. Don't talk to me about climate change or the environment until every politician and elite like Bill Gates stops using private jets and lives according to what environmentalists want.

I. Climate change is real, but because Al Gore built his Outer Banks house right near the water, there is no imminent danger to the rest of us, mortals. Since he also flies private jet, I can take my two trips per year to Europe and Asia.

+1000

And since he invented the internet he must be smarter than all of us.

+million.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

I am the only left leaning person in a large family of conservatives; my DH also has many conservatives in his family. What OP posted absolutely represents an array of existing conservative view points. In addition, one only needs to glance at Fox News or read the comment section on Fox News to see that what OP posted is exactly what conservative leaning Americans tend to think.

Let me break you a secret: conservatives don't watch Fox news.

Going by the folks posting in their comment section, yes they do. Or at least they gleefully consume their website.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

I am the only left leaning person in a large family of conservatives; my DH also has many conservatives in his family. What OP posted absolutely represents an array of existing conservative view points. In addition, one only needs to glance at Fox News or read the comment section on Fox News to see that what OP posted is exactly what conservative leaning Americans tend to think.

Let me break you a secret: conservatives don't watch Fox news.

Yes, they do.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

I am the only left leaning person in a large family of conservatives; my DH also has many conservatives in his family. What OP posted absolutely represents an array of existing conservative view points. In addition, one only needs to glance at Fox News or read the comment section on Fox News to see that what OP posted is exactly what conservative leaning Americans tend to think.

Let me break you a secret: conservatives don't watch Fox news.

I’ll bite. What label would you apply to Fox’s audience?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

Lol. I know more of you guys than you do. And you’re every bit as bad/a mess as everyone imagines, especially on stuff like global warming and abortion.

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Tell us about a climate event in the past 5 years that isn't attributable to climate change.

The earth has suffered storms, hurricanes, tornados, and all other climate events since the start of time, but only in the past decade have politicians insisted that any of these events we have today are the result of climate change. It is like a religion.

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A. Climate change is not real, or at least it is not man-made.
B. Climate change may be real (I'd say, to the extent that climate change is real) there is nothing the government can and should do to mitigate it, because it won't change anything (climate change is inevitable regardless of what we do).
C. China and India pollute more, and therefore we should not try and reduce our emissions, because it will threaten our economic competitiveness. (But more importantly, not make any difference in the supposed problem.)
D. Climate change is real (again, to the extent that climate change is real) government-driven efforts are more feel-good and greenwashing than actually effective.
E. Emissions reductions and greener initiatives should be entirely left to the free market to solve. (And in particular build more nuclear power plants or I refuse to take your concerns seriously)
G. Climate change is exaggerated and an excuse for governments to try and restrict our freedoms.
H. Don't talk to me about climate change or the environment until every politician and elite like Bill Gates stops using private jets and lives according to what environmentalists want.

I'm a conservative and I agree with the whole list except for F with a few modifications.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

I am the only left leaning person in a large family of conservatives; my DH also has many conservatives in his family. What OP posted absolutely represents an array of existing conservative view points. In addition, one only needs to glance at Fox News or read the comment section on Fox News to see that what OP posted is exactly what conservative leaning Americans tend to think.

Let me break you a secret: conservatives don't watch Fox news.

Yes, they do.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/

I'm not PP but they are absolutely correct. The only people who watch Fox News are Boomer conservatives who are more more like the Bush/Romney/Murkowski/McConnell wing of the party. The younger ones who tend to be more Trumpy wing absolutely do not watch Fox News- they watch various independent journalists and podcasts etc for their news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

I am the only left leaning person in a large family of conservatives; my DH also has many conservatives in his family. What OP posted absolutely represents an array of existing conservative view points. In addition, one only needs to glance at Fox News or read the comment section on Fox News to see that what OP posted is exactly what conservative leaning Americans tend to think.

Let me break you a secret: conservatives don't watch Fox news.

I’ll bite. What label would you apply to Fox’s audience?

People who forgot cut cable cord.

[Anonymous]

B? I think if we can have normal temps followed by an ice age then swing back to normal temps naturally, then things can swing the other way as well. I'm not convinced it's man made.

Also H.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things, OP. Granted, I don't know many American conservatives, but my conservative family in Europe, who votes for right-wing politicians, knows climate change is real, and takes action every day to mitigate it. Every day on the TV it's talked about seriously, with all sorts of ideas individuals can implement to do their part. Local governments are at the forefront of this fight, because they're dealing with wildfires and evacuations, bans on filling swimming pools, and even in some places a total moratorium on new construction because there's not enough water to support more residents, and, a ban on agricultural watering, which is a huge deal and will change what type of crops farmers grow (and what type of animal herds they choose to invest in). As a child growing up in Europe, we were taught about climate change in grade school, and read books explaining it. It's not a political controversy in any of the European countries I've lived in.

You don’t know any American right wingers? What delightful and peaceful bubble do you live in? Also how did you wander onto an American site and not understand that cons here absolutely believe the way OP implies?

I am conservative and none of the listed in OP is applicable to me or my family. I think you and OP getting your idea of conservatives from the media and don't know any of them in real life.

I am the only left leaning person in a large family of conservatives; my DH also has many conservatives in his family. What OP posted absolutely represents an array of existing conservative view points. In addition, one only needs to glance at Fox News or read the comment section on Fox News to see that what OP posted is exactly what conservative leaning Americans tend to think.

Let me break you a secret: conservatives don't watch Fox news.

Yes, they do.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/

I'm not PP but they are absolutely correct. The only people who watch Fox News are Boomer conservatives who are more more like the Bush/Romney/Murkowski/McConnell wing of the party. The younger ones who tend to be more Trumpy wing absolutely do not watch Fox News- they watch various independent journalists and podcasts etc for their news.

Not by the thousands of MAGA-esque comments in their comment section on every article. Pick any article, especially anything controversial and read the comments. They aren't the Bush/Romney types.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The climate is always changing and on a much longer time scale than humans have been around to impact. Educate yourself on the Milankovitch cycles - https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/#:~:text=These%20cyclical%20orbital%20movements%2C%20which,and%20south%20of%20the%20equator)

You heard it here first summer 2023 temperatures for most if not all of the US will be the lowest on record.

I think it’s so adorable that conservatives always think it’s some ground breaking news that the earth’s climate has AlWaYs ChAnGeD. It wasn’t habitable by humans for much of that time.

And for you, dear sweet summer child. It’s just a cartoon so perhaps you’ll grasp its implications: https://xkcd.com/1732/

This is really well done. Thank you, PP.

[Anonymous]

I really don't get conservative skepticism that efforts to curtail climate change are useful/fruitful.

Look at what international efforts have done for air quality (which is drastically better than twenty years ago despite the recent attention on Canada's fires). Just google some charts. Or look at international efforts and the impact on ozone depletion.

Yes, sh*t can be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The climate is always changing and on a much longer time scale than humans have been around to impact. Educate yourself on the Milankovitch cycles - https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/#:~:text=These%20cyclical%20orbital%20movements%2C%20which,and%20south%20of%20the%20equator)

You heard it here first summer 2023 temperatures for most if not all of the US will be the lowest on record.

I think it’s so adorable that conservatives always think it’s some ground breaking news that the earth’s climate has AlWaYs ChAnGeD. It wasn’t habitable by humans for much of that time.

And for you, dear sweet summer child. It’s just a cartoon so perhaps you’ll grasp its implications: https://xkcd.com/1732/

This is really well done. Thank you, PP.

Can a conservative comment on this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The climate is always changing and on a much longer time scale than humans have been around to impact. Educate yourself on the Milankovitch cycles - https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/#:~:text=These%20cyclical%20orbital%20movements%2C%20which,and%20south%20of%20the%20equator)

You heard it here first summer 2023 temperatures for most if not all of the US will be the lowest on record.

Temps in the US don't necessarily have anything to do with global averages.