Hill Middle Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS also very strategically cracked the Hill into three separate middle schools to prevent any critical mass of high achieving kids. Many parents have been lobbying for one consolidated MS for years, but Charles Allen and DCPS are completely opposed because it wouldn't fit their "fairness" and "equity" narrative if there suddenly was a MS that started to perform well.

What???!!! Charles was a staffer for a prior W6 member when the current DCPS structure was reorged. Take your BS somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

WTH are you talking about. The literal definition of a 3 is "Level 3: Approached Expectations". The word "approaching" has a meaning. By definition it is below expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

WTH are you talking about. The literal definition of a 3 is "Level 3: Approached Expectations". The word "approaching" has a meaning. By definition it is below expectations.

Barely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

A 3 on PARCC is not proficient. Nowhere near it. They use them to boost their data.

[Anonymous]

Because if you suggest this, the Council will say you’re racist, and people are still afraid of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, the main thing that's holding Jefferson back is the lack of definite rigor. They don't seem to offer many true honors/intensified classes. Few UMC feeder parents are sold on their vague "we differentiate marvelously!" pledge. The lack of diversity doesn't help either. Where are the Asian students? There seem to be zero and only a tiny number of whites.

Jefferson has an accelerated math track with admission based on test scores and other specified metrics.

The school is 1.1% Asian (as compared with DCPS overall, which is 2% Asian).

I fully believe that Jefferson’s primary impediment to attracting more Capitol Hill kids is its location. Overall, however, it’s among the more popular middle schools in the city, with a waitlist that consistently exceeds the number of offers made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

A 3 on PARCC is not proficient. Nowhere near it. They use them to boost their data.

This. The data is so bad and low for 4 and 5 (5-10% total at some schools) they added 3 to bolster it but 3 is not proficient and never has been.

You should be looking minimum at the bottom of the barrel is 4 as grade level for majority of the kids and ideally 25% with 5 for high performing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

A 3 on PARCC is not proficient. Nowhere near it. They use them to boost their data.

This. The data is so bad and low for 4 and 5 (5-10% total at some schools) they added 3 to bolster it but 3 is not proficient and never has been.

You should be looking minimum at the bottom of the barrel is 4 as grade level for majority of the kids and ideally 25% with 5 for high performing.

Ok? Enroll your kids in the IB MS and those will be the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

A 3 on PARCC is not proficient. Nowhere near it. They use them to boost their data.

This. The data is so bad and low for 4 and 5 (5-10% total at some schools) they added 3 to bolster it but 3 is not proficient and never has been.

You should be looking minimum at the bottom of the barrel is 4 as grade level for majority of the kids and ideally 25% with 5 for high performing.

Ok? Enroll your kids in the IB MS and those will be the numbers.

Sure that will solve everything! My god, you are so naive.

When you dumb down the curriculum, kids with potential to continue doing well or improve won’t. When you can’t control disruptive kids and behaviors, no one in the class is learning.

Have you even looked at the data for Deal and Hardy? They barely hit 50% for on grade level and above in math and their IB rate is very high. Not only very high but the education of the families are also very advance. With this background and SES, those numbers are terrible. JR is much worst and can’t even hit 20% on grade level in math. I won’t even touch on the abysmal science scores.

At least in ELA the numbers for Deal and Hardy are better in 60-70% but talk to the parents there how well their kid can actually write a good paper with any critical analysis. Or what about the required reading lists for each grade. Or what about the rigor in the classes. The answer to all 3 is none. Easy courses, massive grade inflation, low expectations all in the name of equity.

More IB families sending this kids to the schools are not going to solve the problem when the underlying issue stems from lowering academic standards and the inability to manage classrooms due to restorative justice BS of no consequences. The kids will just perform at the lower standards or learn nothing at all when there is daily disruptions and chaos in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless and until DCPS allows MS on the Hill to do actual tracking (call it what you will) those schools will not progress beyond a certain point. People are not going to send their kids to schools where they are in classes with kids 2+ grade levels behind the material and grade level. As long as DCPS cares more about faux "equity" than academic rigor, nothing will change.

This. Nailed it.

Lowering academic standards due to equity and social promotion is why DCPS high school have single digit percentages of kids on grade level on math.

It’s shocking that 95% kids are performing below grade level with majority way, way below grade level.

Well … given that PARCC 3s were considered proficient in some states, most of the Hill MS have 50+ grade level for ELA, 30-40% for math. It’s not that bad. If what you envision for a school is majority above grade level, no, you won’t get that.

A 3 on PARCC is not proficient. Nowhere near it. They use them to boost their data.

This. The data is so bad and low for 4 and 5 (5-10% total at some schools) they added 3 to bolster it but 3 is not proficient and never has been.

You should be looking minimum at the bottom of the barrel is 4 as grade level for majority of the kids and ideally 25% with 5 for high performing.

Ok? Enroll your kids in the IB MS and those will be the numbers.

Sure that will solve everything! My god, you are so naive.

When you dumb down the curriculum, kids with potential to continue doing well or improve won’t. When you can’t control disruptive kids and behaviors, no one in the class is learning.

Have you even looked at the data for Deal and Hardy? They barely hit 50% for on grade level and above in math and their IB rate is very high. Not only very high but the education of the families are also very advance. With this background and SES, those numbers are terrible. JR is much worst and can’t even hit 20% on grade level in math. I won’t even touch on the abysmal science scores.

At least in ELA the numbers for Deal and Hardy are better in 60-70% but talk to the parents there how well their kid can actually write a good paper with any critical analysis. Or what about the required reading lists for each grade. Or what about the rigor in the classes. The answer to all 3 is none. Easy courses, massive grade inflation, low expectations all in the name of equity.

More IB families sending this kids to the schools are not going to solve the problem when the underlying issue stems from lowering academic standards and the inability to manage classrooms due to restorative justice BS of no consequences. The kids will just perform at the lower standards or learn nothing at all when there is daily disruptions and chaos in the classroom.

enjoy arlington.

[Anonymous]

The PARCC scores at Deal look pretty good to me. It is a public school where every single kid just realistically is not going to be a next level academic high flyer who takes the test seriously and gets a 4 or 5 on both sections.

[Anonymous]

Actually Deal's scores look insubstantially different from and arguably better than say Basis when you factor in they have 3x as many students classified as special education and 9x as many students classified as ELL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The PARCC scores at Deal look pretty good to me. It is a public school where every single kid just realistically is not going to be a next level academic high flyer who takes the test seriously and gets a 4 or 5 on both sections.

4 is proficient. That is not an academic high flyer. This should be the majority under the bell shape curve.

You are in DC’s bubble of low standards.

[Anonymous]

I was pointing out that even at Deal slightly more than 20% of students are special needs or ELL. PARCC is demonstrated to be difficult for students in those categories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was pointing out that even at Deal slightly more than 20% of students are special needs or ELL. PARCC is demonstrated to be difficult for students in those categories.

Just because you are special needs or ELL doesn’t mean you can’t do well on PARCC. Lots of 2e kids who are high performing.

With the SES status at Deal, I would expect the special needs kids to be getting a lot of support not only at school but even more outside the school and performing well.

Now if you are talking ward 7 and 8 who don’t have the means to support, then that’s different. BTW lots of families in ward 3 don’t wait around for DCPS to do initial diagnostic testing either. They all pay out of pocket for testing early to gain access the resources their kids need.