TJ Math Research Statistics 1

[Anonymous]

No book

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Anonymous wrote:PP- same boat here. DC is a freshman - M1. Found RS1 to be easy and very interesting. Taking RS2 next tear.

OP- there is a general myth that research state is hard. itsnot

welcome to tj!

Has your kid got in RS2? I don’t think TJ let you take RS2 in 9th.

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Anonymous wrote:No book

Are there packets of notes then? If not, did he ask the teacher for what material to read to be able to learn?

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I’ve had multiple kids at TJ. All RS teachers are not created equal. Don’t worry if your kid isn’t getting an easy A in RS 1. They’ll survive. It’s not a TJ litmus test. Some teachers are great. Some are truly abysmal. There’s a lot of dead weight in the math department generally. And RS has some bad teacher options. Wait to see how real math goes next semester.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, the honest and hard truth is if you want your child to get an A in this class, you need to either 1) have a child that is significantly gifted (not just regular NVa “gifted”), 2) have them pre-study it in the summer or 3) invest in weekly tutoring. The summer classes that pre-teach the TJ classes are really not that expensive and some are even available online.

It will not happen unless you as the parent invest in your child. This is not on the teachers. They are holding the students to a high standard to prepare them for what is coming next.

If you are okay with a C or a B, then don’t worry. But if the goal is a high GPA, get with the TJ program!

Please. I’ve got a junior who is not a genius with a great GPA. She did not pre take her classes. This is popular on some pockets that feed into TJ. It’s part of the crazy parent scene. But it’s not necessary to succeed.

[Anonymous]

TJ requires RS1 in freshman first semester because it is required knowledge to complete integrated projects in IBET during second half of the academic year. That said RS1 requires certain middle school math concepts mainly probability and statistics, not the usual pre-algebra/algebra/geometry. Most fcps/lcps middle schools dont go indepth into permutations/combinations & probability. For those kids who had outside math practice through afterschool enrichment or math contests involvement in middle school, do find RS1 concepts easy to grasp, and most of RS1 is learnt by following in-class lecture. RS1 rigor has been brought down compared to what it was before, but still the syllabus aims to cover the fundamentals required for completing the IBET project.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, the honest and hard truth is if you want your child to get an A in this class, you need to either 1) have a child that is significantly gifted (not just regular NVa “gifted”), 2) have them pre-study it in the summer or 3) invest in weekly tutoring. The summer classes that pre-teach the TJ classes are really not that expensive and some are even available online.

It will not happen unless you as the parent invest in your child. This is not on the teachers. They are holding the students to a high standard to prepare them for what is coming next.

If you are okay with a C or a B, then don’t worry. But if the goal is a high GPA, get with the TJ program!

Please. I’ve got a junior who is not a genius with a great GPA. She did not pre take her classes. This is popular on some pockets that feed into TJ. It’s part of the crazy parent scene. But it’s not necessary to succeed.

+1

Agree 100%. There is absolutely no need to take up classes in summer or prepare in advance. If they need help, 8th period is perfect opportunity to get additional help.

I know there is a segment of the population who were brainwashed into thinking "summer classes" and "tutors" are needed. It is actually counter productive. Yes, it would actually harm the student.

By taking the classes in advance it gives the students a look ahead and they drill many sample problems. But one of the main differentiators for learning at TJ compared to base school is that 10-20% of the quizes/tests are on material that requires applying the material in a different context. The students who took summer classes tend to get stumped on these questions. They breeze through the 80% of the test that are straightforward application of what was learned, but the harder 20% they flounder.

We had a recent call with TJ Principal and there are a ton of questions all about the same topic: why does TJ teachers give test questions that are not taught at school?

She responded exactly what I was telling anyone who asked me this question: it is not just repeating what was just taught at school, it requires a deeper understanding of the concepts and critical thinking.

If summer schools actually taught this way, then it would be beneficial but they dont, they dont know how to. I know, because this is exactly how I was taught way back when I was in HS.

[Anonymous]

By summer schools, I am talking about the "prep classes" that Curie popularized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, the honest and hard truth is if you want your child to get an A in this class, you need to either 1) have a child that is significantly gifted (not just regular NVa “gifted”), 2) have them pre-study it in the summer or 3) invest in weekly tutoring. The summer classes that pre-teach the TJ classes are really not that expensive and some are even available online.

It will not happen unless you as the parent invest in your child. This is not on the teachers. They are holding the students to a high standard to prepare them for what is coming next.

If you are okay with a C or a B, then don’t worry. But if the goal is a high GPA, get with the TJ program!

Please. I’ve got a junior who is not a genius with a great GPA. She did not pre take her classes. This is popular on some pockets that feed into TJ. It’s part of the crazy parent scene. But it’s not necessary to succeed.

+1

Agree 100%. There is absolutely no need to take up classes in summer or prepare in advance. If they need help, 8th period is perfect opportunity to get additional help.

I know there is a segment of the population who were brainwashed into thinking "summer classes" and "tutors" are needed. It is actually counter productive. Yes, it would actually harm the student.

By taking the classes in advance it gives the students a look ahead and they drill many sample problems. But one of the main differentiators for learning at TJ compared to base school is that 10-20% of the quizes/tests are on material that requires applying the material in a different context. The students who took summer classes tend to get stumped on these questions. They breeze through the 80% of the test that are straightforward application of what was learned, but the harder 20% they flounder.

We had a recent call with TJ Principal and there are a ton of questions all about the same topic: why does TJ teachers give test questions that are not taught at school?

She responded exactly what I was telling anyone who asked me this question: it is not just repeating what was just taught at school, it requires a deeper understanding of the concepts and critical thinking.

If summer schools actually taught this way, then it would be beneficial but they dont, they dont know how to. I know, because this is exactly how I was taught way back when I was in HS.

Do they practice that critical thinking in class and homework, or only on tests to mock the students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By summer schools, I am talking about the "prep classes" that Curie popularized.

What is Curie?

[Anonymous]

My kid will learn RS2 and RS3 , can somebody tell some information about these two courses? For example: which textbook the TJ teacher uses, usually which teacher to teach these two courses? Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at TJ including a freshman. Older kid said they piloted a new RS curriculum last year for some sections of the then freshman (class of 2025). It was much easier (less content convered) than the traditional RS1 class from previous years and I understand for this years freshman class, all students have the new (easier) RS1 curriculum that is likely here to stay.

Conveniently aligned with the entrance of the first class under the new equity-focused admissions policy

Why does TJ put kids through this suffering of admitting under prepared middle school kids without evaluation test, and then ask them to accept poor grades as their fate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid will learn RS2 and RS3 , can somebody tell some information about these two courses? For example: which textbook the TJ teacher uses, usually which teacher to teach these two courses? Thanks!

RS 2 The Practice of Statistics Starnes, Yates, Moore Freeman 978-1-4292-6258-3

RS 3 STAT2 2nd Edition
Modeling with Regression and ANOVA
Cannon, Cobb, Hartlaub, Legler, Lock, Moore W.H. Freeman & Company 9781319054076

It doesn't matter who teaches these courses, since your student wont get to switch class or choose their teacher. The best you can do as a wise parent is to have them prepare well for the class ahead or get a tutor, instead of blaming the teacher or complaining about tough grading.

[Anonymous]

Thanks very much for your quickly reply !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid will learn RS2 and RS3 , can somebody tell some information about these two courses? For example: which textbook the TJ teacher uses, usually which teacher to teach these two courses? Thanks!

RS 2 The Practice of Statistics Starnes, Yates, Moore Freeman 978-1-4292-6258-3

RS 3 STAT2 2nd Edition
Modeling with Regression and ANOVA
Cannon, Cobb, Hartlaub, Legler, Lock, Moore W.H. Freeman & Company 9781319054076

It doesn't matter who teaches these courses, since your student wont get to switch class or choose their teacher. The best you can do as a wise parent is to have them prepare well for the class ahead or get a tutor, instead of blaming the teacher or complaining about tough grading.

Thanks again! Just bought these two books for my daughter to use for the next semesters !