What is normal for 9th grade math

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Algebra II/Geometry is *not* customary for 7th grade in public school! So, your child is going to take Calculus in 8th grade?

That person doesn’t seem to know what their kid is actually studying because Algebra II/Geometry is not a thing. The standard track is Alg I, Geo, Alg II, Precalc, Calc of some kind, regardless of which grade a kid starts that track in. Some schools flip Geometry and Algebra II. More math-oriented kids will track into Algebra II/Trig instead of just Algebra II. Typical level would have that in 10th, a good chunk of kids will have that in 9th. Maybe pp meant their kid was in Alg II/Trig in 7th? But if so, that’s about 3 years advanced over the base track that gets that in 10th. This is true for public as well. Yes, there are math geniuses taking classes at that level in MS and no, most private schools typically cannot advance to that level simply because they do not have enough students to be able to offer that amount of differentiation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Private school math goes much deeper.


No, private school does not go deeper. It is simply behind public.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Algebra II/Geometry is *not* customary for 7th grade in public school! So, your child is going to take Calculus in 8th grade?

That person doesn’t seem to know what their kid is actually studying because Algebra II/Geometry is not a thing. The standard track is Alg I, Geo, Alg II, Precalc, Calc of some kind, regardless of which grade a kid starts that track in. Some schools flip Geometry and Algebra II. More math-oriented kids will track into Algebra II/Trig instead of just Algebra II. Typical level would have that in 10th, a good chunk of kids will have that in 9th. Maybe pp meant their kid was in Alg II/Trig in 7th? But if so, that’s about 3 years advanced over the base track that gets that in 10th. This is true for public as well. Yes, there are math geniuses taking classes at that level in MS and no, most private schools typically cannot advance to that level simply because they do not have enough students to be able to offer that amount of differentiation.


Public varies by the county and school. Kids can start Algebra anywhere from 6th grade (rare and limited schools) to 9th grade. 7/8th for Algebra is normal. Never heard of Algebra II/Geometry mixed.
Anonymous
PP here and I should add, my last statement is not a diss of private schools. It’s to point out that comparing what a math phenom is taking in 7th grade to what the typical track is in any school, public or private, is stupid. Only a small handful of specialized schools (maybe BIM?) could handle that level of math acceleration, and that’s fine because the vast majority of kids don’t need it. That isn’t a failure of private schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


I spend more than that on a single vacation. Move along.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Private school math goes much deeper.


No, private school does not go deeper. It is simply behind public.


Public school parent about to switch to private school here. The only one subject public is better than private is math. Some top publics also have more STEM electives.

I am keeping our super strong STEM oriented kid in public and switching our other kids to private.
Anonymous
^To PP, my 7th grader taking Algebra ll/Geometry will likely take some form of Pre-Calculus in 8th grade. (We don’t know which yet; depends on an upcoming exams among other factors.)

But this sequence is not typical.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.



Glad I can easily afford to pay $50k per year for tuition. I also don’t need to post on a private school forum pretending that taking Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade is a flex. My private school children will take Calculus BC in 12th grade. They don’t need to take math electives their senior year (or load up on APs (because they’re not offered at our school)) to be competitive. That’s what public school students have to do.

I hope that your children enjoy the education for the unwashed masses they’re receiving.

I guess it’s nice to see that both public school and private school parents can be needlessly nasty to one another.


Agree. These people have a lot in common.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Algebra II/Geometry is *not* customary for 7th grade in public school! So, your child is going to take Calculus in 8th grade?

That person doesn’t seem to know what their kid is actually studying because Algebra II/Geometry is not a thing. The standard track is Alg I, Geo, Alg II, Precalc, Calc of some kind, regardless of which grade a kid starts that track in. Some schools flip Geometry and Algebra II. More math-oriented kids will track into Algebra II/Trig instead of just Algebra II. Typical level would have that in 10th, a good chunk of kids will have that in 9th. Maybe pp meant their kid was in Alg II/Trig in 7th? But if so, that’s about 3 years advanced over the base track that gets that in 10th. This is true for public as well. Yes, there are math geniuses taking classes at that level in MS and no, most private schools typically cannot advance to that level simply because they do not have enough students to be able to offer that amount of differentiation.


MCPS has over 1/3 of students doing geometry in 9th grade.

sWW and DCPS has 9th graders taking two math classes - geometry and algebra something.

The whole point is geometry is a standalone class, get it done before physics, don’t lose your algebra skills in the meantime.
Anonymous
Different public and private schools are different. Separately, many schools, both public and private, provide differentiation which supports students both on advanced math track(s) and on slower math track(s). This thread is pretty de-railed at this point…
Anonymous
Private with kids who started ap calculus as frosh. Best math student on to Harvard this year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Private school math goes much deeper.


No, private school does not go deeper. It is simply behind public.


Public school parent about to switch to private school here. The only one subject public is better than private is math. Some top publics also have more STEM electives.

I am keeping our super strong STEM oriented kid in public and switching our other kids to private.


Not DCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Algebra II/Geometry is *not* customary for 7th grade in public school! So, your child is going to take Calculus in 8th grade?

That person doesn’t seem to know what their kid is actually studying because Algebra II/Geometry is not a thing. The standard track is Alg I, Geo, Alg II, Precalc, Calc of some kind, regardless of which grade a kid starts that track in. Some schools flip Geometry and Algebra II. More math-oriented kids will track into Algebra II/Trig instead of just Algebra II. Typical level would have that in 10th, a good chunk of kids will have that in 9th. Maybe pp meant their kid was in Alg II/Trig in 7th? But if so, that’s about 3 years advanced over the base track that gets that in 10th. This is true for public as well. Yes, there are math geniuses taking classes at that level in MS and no, most private schools typically cannot advance to that level simply because they do not have enough students to be able to offer that amount of differentiation.


MCPS has over 1/3 of students doing geometry in 9th grade.

sWW and DCPS has 9th graders taking two math classes - geometry and algebra something.


The whole point is geometry is a standalone class, get it done before physics, don’t lose your algebra skills in the meantime.


These classes are a complete joke. My kid went from DCPS with straight As (frankly--above 98%) on to a Big3. Had to repeat Honors Algebra 2 at the Big3 school and struggled to get a low A--despite having taken the exact class before in DCPS. Classmates at another Big3 had the same experience.
All math is not the same. DCPS teaches a very, very shallow and cursory version of things. I know that the suburban magnets also delve deeply but we were shocked how little my kid was taught on this advanced track in DCPS.

I have another 2 kids in DCPS so we are not anti public school by any means but I wanted to share this experience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^To PP, my 7th grader taking Algebra ll/Geometry will likely take some form of Pre-Calculus in 8th grade. (We don’t know which yet; depends on an upcoming exams among other factors.)

But this sequence is not typical.

Are you the OP? Can you please confirm that your school is actually combining Algebra II and *Geometry*, not Trig? This is baffling to me and I’m 99% certain you are just making a mistake in what you type, and it’s very hard to take seriously. It is unheard of for a school to combine those two.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is in the private school forum?…

My public school kid is completing Algebra II/Geometry in 7th grade. (Normal at her school is 8th grade.)

Glad I’m not paying $50k a year to be several years behind where she is now.


Private school math goes much deeper.


No, private school does not go deeper. It is simply behind public.


Sadly private schools here teach boy conceptual math in LS and MS. Then US they surprise the students and finally want speed and accuracy, plus understanding. Everything hits the wall then, and no, calculators do not help.

And when did they stop covering Roman numerals entirely?!?!?
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