Red light therapy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

I don't think anyone knows if these things make any appreciable difference (other than taking money from people who will pay anything for a quick fix).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

I don't think anyone knows if these things make any appreciable difference (other than taking money from people who will pay anything for a quick fix).

I mean, we absolutely know if these things make an appreciable difference. They are FDA-approved for anti-aging purposes, which means the FDA believes them to treat signs of skin aging.

And fwiw, no dermatologist I know of (whether my own derms I've spoken to or ones I follow) believes these to be a "quick fix." I second the poster who said their dermatologist said it was more for routine maintenance. No one is buying a red light mask thinking they will get the same results as laser facial and botox, and no dermatologist is telling them to expect those kinds of results.

[Anonymous]

By the way, most red/blue light therapy devices sold in the US are marked up beyond belief. LEDs have been around forever, and people have known about the benefits for a long time as well. But because only now RLT is gone mainstream, businesses are cashing in on people's ignorance. You can spend thousands on an LED device in the US or go to Ali Express and spend around $20 for something that does about the same thing.

[Anonymous]

I have been using a RLT device to grow thicker hair on my head, and I can tell you at 2 and half months I am seeing a difference. The red light is proven to interfere with dht, the cause of hairloss, and also increases blood flow in areas where it is applied. Light has been used for many different applications.

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

I don't think anyone knows if these things make any appreciable difference (other than taking money from people who will pay anything for a quick fix).

I mean, we absolutely know if these things make an appreciable difference. They are FDA-approved for anti-aging purposes, which means the FDA believes them to treat signs of skin aging.

And fwiw, no dermatologist I know of (whether my own derms I've spoken to or ones I follow) believes these to be a "quick fix." I second the poster who said their dermatologist said it was more for routine maintenance. No one is buying a red light mask thinking they will get the same results as laser facial and botox, and no dermatologist is telling them to expect those kinds of results.

Please post which device has been approved by FDA and for what indication. I think you are getting some stuff messed up here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By the way, most red/blue light therapy devices sold in the US are marked up beyond belief. LEDs have been around forever, and people have known about the benefits for a long time as well. But because only now RLT is gone mainstream, businesses are cashing in on people's ignorance. You can spend thousands on an LED device in the US or go to Ali Express and spend around $20 for something that does about the same thing.

Is it true that the cost is unrelated to the efficacy? I’ve wanted to buy one but just can’t responsibly swing the cost of the brand names

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

I don't think anyone knows if these things make any appreciable difference (other than taking money from people who will pay anything for a quick fix).

I mean, we absolutely know if these things make an appreciable difference. They are FDA-approved for anti-aging purposes, which means the FDA believes them to treat signs of skin aging.

And fwiw, no dermatologist I know of (whether my own derms I've spoken to or ones I follow) believes these to be a "quick fix." I second the poster who said their dermatologist said it was more for routine maintenance. No one is buying a red light mask thinking they will get the same results as laser facial and botox, and no dermatologist is telling them to expect those kinds of results.

I think you need a lesson in what FDA cleared means for medical devices. FDA cleared (which any home use device is) for medical devices has no bearing on whether or not something is actually effective, it only has bearing on whether or not they believe a device is safe for use.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:By the way, most red/blue light therapy devices sold in the US are marked up beyond belief. LEDs have been around forever, and people have known about the benefits for a long time as well. But because only now RLT is gone mainstream, businesses are cashing in on people's ignorance. You can spend thousands on an LED device in the US or go to Ali Express and spend around $20 for something that does about the same thing.

Is it true that the cost is unrelated to the efficacy? I’ve wanted to buy one but just can’t responsibly swing the cost of the brand names

The LEDs being used in the expensive devices are the same off the shelf, mass produced LEDs used in the cheap ones. It's just that people think they're getting a premium product if they pay more. The beauty industry takes advantage of us I am afraid. The effects will be the same if you use an expensive one or not.

[Anonymous]

I want something for growing hair. My hair is thinning at an alarming rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:By the way, most red/blue light therapy devices sold in the US are marked up beyond belief. LEDs have been around forever, and people have known about the benefits for a long time as well. But because only now RLT is gone mainstream, businesses are cashing in on people's ignorance. You can spend thousands on an LED device in the US or go to Ali Express and spend around $20 for something that does about the same thing.

Is it true that the cost is unrelated to the efficacy? I’ve wanted to buy one but just can’t responsibly swing the cost of the brand names

The LEDs being used in the expensive devices are the same off the shelf, mass produced LEDs used in the cheap ones. It's just that people think they're getting a premium product if they pay more. The beauty industry takes advantage of us I am afraid. The effects will be the same if you use an expensive one or not.

Could you link a cheaper product using these same LEDs that you'd recommend?

[Anonymous]

This is so interesting. Based on this thread, I started reading about red light therapy, and it seems like could be useful for several things in our family:

- wrinkles/cystic acne (me)
- acne and eczema (DC1)
- hair thinning (DC2)

I wonder if it's worth getting a panel, so we can all use it for our respective thing. Huh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

I don't think anyone knows if these things make any appreciable difference (other than taking money from people who will pay anything for a quick fix).

I mean, we absolutely know if these things make an appreciable difference. They are FDA-approved for anti-aging purposes, which means the FDA believes them to treat signs of skin aging.

And fwiw, no dermatologist I know of (whether my own derms I've spoken to or ones I follow) believes these to be a "quick fix." I second the poster who said their dermatologist said it was more for routine maintenance. No one is buying a red light mask thinking they will get the same results as laser facial and botox, and no dermatologist is telling them to expect those kinds of results.

Please post which device has been approved by FDA and for what indication. I think you are getting some stuff messed up here.

DP but are omnilux and current not FDA approved?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have the Dr. Denis Gross led mask. It does marginally improve my skin texture when I consistently use it but it’s not enough of a difference that I would recommend if $500 is a lot of money to you.

My Cosmetic Derm, who I would trust with my life, said something along the lines of 'use it 5 times a week for 40 years and let me know if you think it made a difference'

Meaning what, your derm doesn’t think the mask makes an appreciable difference?

I don't think anyone knows if these things make any appreciable difference (other than taking money from people who will pay anything for a quick fix).

I mean, we absolutely know if these things make an appreciable difference. They are FDA-approved for anti-aging purposes, which means the FDA believes them to treat signs of skin aging.

And fwiw, no dermatologist I know of (whether my own derms I've spoken to or ones I follow) believes these to be a "quick fix." I second the poster who said their dermatologist said it was more for routine maintenance. No one is buying a red light mask thinking they will get the same results as laser facial and botox, and no dermatologist is telling them to expect those kinds of results.

Please post which device has been approved by FDA and for what indication. I think you are getting some stuff messed up here.

DP but are omnilux and current not FDA approved?

According to their own marketing, they are FDA cleared. That is, FDA and the manufacturer determined that the device was similar to an already lawfully marketed device. FDA has not made any determinations on whether the devices you listed are effective. That’s not how authorizations for devices work.