"How many APs"?

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Anonymous wrote:There are no grades mentioned in terms of grades for these classes and grades for the exams

the list is fairly pointless without them
also if she got C grades in the honors social sciences then that won't help but if she got A's then obviously that's a bonus

This feels like I'm stating the obvious here.

She's a junior, so she has only received 1 AP score so far... it was a 5. She is expecting more 5's this July. She has all As so far except for 1 A- (and might get another A- in AP Lang this year -- she's got a 91.8% right now).

But I'm really just curious about "the number." Would you say 8 APs or 10?

There is no one number. My graduating senior had 14 AP tests (a few were semester-long courses). That was "enough" for college admissions for this one particular kid, with their particular grades/scores/major, for the schools on their list. Would 12 have been enough? 10? 8? Probably, but no one can say, as that's not how admissions works.

So.you would count my daughter as taking 8 AP classes? (I understand that there are lots of factors in admissions. I am truly just curious about what people say in terms of number.) You only count AP tests, not post AP courses, right?

Why don't you just say "8 AP classes plus two higher courses beyond those APs."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you count post-AP courses in the total number?

My daughter will have taken 8 APs by the time she graduates:
- AP Computer Science
- AP Language
- AP Physics C
- AP Spanish
- AP Calc BC
- AP Literature
- AP Biology
- AP Statistics
(Yep, she only took honors History and Govt... scandalous.)

She will also take 2 post-AP courses:
- CS Data Structures
- Multi-Var Calc and Linear Alg

When the school's college counselor generalizes and says "students need at least 9 APs to apply to X college," would you count post-APs in that number? As in, my daughter will have taken 10 and can (maybe) get into X college?

Yes, yes, I know that she can apply wherever she wants. I'm just curious about opinions on this topic.

No doubt, these show rigor. Why add stress by adding more?

[Anonymous]

APs across al subjects is desired.
As in those classes.
Some APs weigh more than others, as in AP Calc BC is more important to take over AP Human Geography.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are no grades mentioned in terms of grades for these classes and grades for the exams

the list is fairly pointless without them
also if she got C grades in the honors social sciences then that won't help but if she got A's then obviously that's a bonus

This feels like I'm stating the obvious here.

She's a junior, so she has only received 1 AP score so far... it was a 5. She is expecting more 5's this July. She has all As so far except for 1 A- (and might get another A- in AP Lang this year -- she's got a 91.8% right now).

But I'm really just curious about "the number." Would you say 8 APs or 10?

Depends on the school. How many are offered at your school? What grade are they allowed to start taking them? How many AP’s do most high achieving students take (for context?)

Our school limits how many AP’s students can take. 8 would be VERY high.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

She sounds like a piece of work. Good luck to your daughter!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

OP here. Perhaps they are not off the mark. But my DD has a 1520 SAT and is a highly accomplished athlete. I think she has a lot going for her and would definitely have a shot at getting admitted to UVA. I'm going to support her decision to apply (and be irrationally annoyed at the counselor ).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

OP here. Perhaps they are not off the mark. But my DD has a 1520 SAT and is a highly accomplished athlete. I think she has a lot going for her and would definitely have a shot at getting admitted to UVA. I'm going to support her decision to apply (and be irrationally annoyed at the counselor ).

OK, but as a pp pointed out, the 75th percentile of students entering UVA last year had a 4.53. So 12 AP courses in most rigorous subjects and a 35 ACT.. So maybe your high school college counselor is telling you that compared to other students in her own class, she isn't cutting it for UVA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

OP here. Perhaps they are not off the mark. But my DD has a 1520 SAT and is a highly accomplished athlete. I think she has a lot going for her and would definitely have a shot at getting admitted to UVA. I'm going to support her decision to apply (and be irrationally annoyed at the counselor ).

That's fine. But you should have mentioned this in your OP. If you only give us the very basics, that she will have 8 APs by the end of 12th, without mention of any grades or scores, of course we can only judge on the information at hand.

Really you're not doing yourself any favors and you're now sounding defensive, when the problem lies with your inability to be forthcoming with the information on which to base our judgments.

[Anonymous]

50% or more of what are offered by school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

OP here. Perhaps they are not off the mark. But my DD has a 1520 SAT and is a highly accomplished athlete. I think she has a lot going for her and would definitely have a shot at getting admitted to UVA. I'm going to support her decision to apply (and be irrationally annoyed at the counselor ).

That's fine. But you should have mentioned this in your OP. If you only give us the very basics, that she will have 8 APs by the end of 12th, without mention of any grades or scores, of course we can only judge on the information at hand.

Really you're not doing yourself any favors and you're now sounding defensive, when the problem lies with your inability to be forthcoming with the information on which to base our judgments.

+1. If she's unhooked, she should be aiming for that 4.53, which she cannot hit because she has only 8 APs at time of graduation. The applicant, is, after all, compared to the other applicants' applications from the same school. If there are kids with a 4.6 from 12 APs with As, then, yes, she's behind

[Anonymous]

UVA wants four years of World Language. Make sure she takes AP WL. Also, do not focus only on STEM or humanities APs. She needs at least one AP in each subject area. Follow Dean Janine Lolande (sp?) from the UVA admissions office.

Also, keep in mind the fcps high schooll she attends will also come into play. Her gpa may not need be that high if she goes to a lower performing high school.

My kid got in with a 4.4 gpa from a lower rated fcps school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

OP here. Perhaps they are not off the mark. But my DD has a 1520 SAT and is a highly accomplished athlete. I think she has a lot going for her and would definitely have a shot at getting admitted to UVA. I'm going to support her decision to apply (and be irrationally annoyed at the counselor ).

That's fine. But you should have mentioned this in your OP. If you only give us the very basics, that she will have 8 APs by the end of 12th, without mention of any grades or scores, of course we can only judge on the information at hand.

Really you're not doing yourself any favors and you're now sounding defensive, when the problem lies with your inability to be forthcoming with the information on which to base our judgments.

+1. If she's unhooked, she should be aiming for that 4.53, which she cannot hit because she has only 8 APs at time of graduation. The applicant, is, after all, compared to the other applicants' applications from the same school. If there are kids with a 4.6 from 12 APs with As, then, yes, she's behind

You might not be aware, but OPs daughter gets a +1 GPA bump from the post-AP classes as well. So for the purpose, I suppose she should count it as 10 "APs."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the perspectives. FWIW, this was a college counselor from FCPS talking about UVA. My DD wants to go to UVA or VA Tech. I found it interesting that this particular person thought that my DD did not have enough AP classes to be in the running for admission to UVA. Whatever. She's still going to apply and will just wait and see what happens!

So your kid is in FCPS and competing with kids who will have maybe 14 APs including those in social sciences. Depending on the major your kid wants, this is going to have an impact on her making her mark at UVA against these other in-state FCPS kids. You should talk again to the counselor at your school or another one. I suspect they are not completely off the mark.

OP here. Perhaps they are not off the mark. But my DD has a 1520 SAT and is a highly accomplished athlete. I think she has a lot going for her and would definitely have a shot at getting admitted to UVA. I'm going to support her decision to apply (and be irrationally annoyed at the counselor ).

That's fine. But you should have mentioned this in your OP. If you only give us the very basics, that she will have 8 APs by the end of 12th, without mention of any grades or scores, of course we can only judge on the information at hand.

Really you're not doing yourself any favors and you're now sounding defensive, when the problem lies with your inability to be forthcoming with the information on which to base our judgments.

+1. If she's unhooked, she should be aiming for that 4.53, which she cannot hit because she has only 8 APs at time of graduation. The applicant, is, after all, compared to the other applicants' applications from the same school. If there are kids with a 4.6 from 12 APs with As, then, yes, she's behind

You might not be aware, but OPs daughter gets a +1 GPA bump from the post-AP classes as well. So for the purpose, I suppose she should count it as 10 "APs."

Still not 14 APs though is it?