Public Vs. Private?

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

That’s my point. You are correct, you can’t compare top publics to top privates. That’s why, generally speaking, the college outcomes are not on par.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

That’s my point. You are correct, you can’t compare top publics to top privates. That’s why, generally speaking, the college outcomes are not on par.

Are you an idiot? I am saying you cannot compare because the percentages are so variable for the privates because of a low denominator.

Also, the only fair way to compare would be to figure out who is “hooked” or not and compare rates for each group separately.

[Anonymous]

I would compare your child's public honors/AP/gifted program to the private school, not the entire public school class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

I work at a private school in the region. Our graduating class has 350 students. Is that considerably smaller than public schools? Why do you assume we have “hooked” students?

So you’re an expert on college results Instagram pages but you know nothing about the school sizes or what “hooked” means? LOL

And what top private around here has 350 seniors? None

Okay. I’m the PP. I should have expected a response like this considering it’s DCUM. I never claimed to be an expert on college results, although I’m happy to report that my private school sends students to “DCUM-worthy” schools each year. (Quotation marks are intentional. I don’t buy into elitism.)

I’m well aware what hooked means. I was calling you out on your baseless assumption that private school kids are “hooked.” They aren’t. As for 350? Try many of the Catholic high schools.

Good attempt at being rude and attempting to show me up, but it didn’t work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question, what are the benefits of Private school for those in Whitman/Churchill/Wooton/BCC school districts? The public schools are so good, just trying to understand why so many people in these school clusters are choosing private.

Hi OP. I agree with you that the schools are very good, or at least they were up until the pandemic when we were last there. We are zoned for Wootton and moved our son during the pandemic because he has ADHD and Zoom wasn't working for him. He has really thrived where he is now. That said, I really like his elementary and middle schools - absolutely no complaints. If he did not have ADHD, that's exactly where he would be. I've found most of the kids I've met at his zoned middle school and high school, polite and extremely bright and I have no doubt that they could out score my kid on any standardized test. The college admissions results are also very impressive.

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Exact same thread. Over and over and over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exact same thread. Over and over and over and over.

A lot of us are considering switching or staying. This is an easy decision for someone who lives in DC or in a bad public school system. It is a harder decision for those of us who live in top public school systems. I don't necessarily think there will be a college admissions boost for my kids and the student population will be geographically spread out. Right now I have 3 kids in schools that are within 2 miles from my house. Now I'm looking at schools that will be 20 minutes away without traffic. Is it really worth 50k per kid to go to a school that is a pain to get to? I think one of my kids would do well in an all boys school but not the other son or daughter. Do i send my 3 kids to 3 different schools that would be even a bigger pain to get to in the mornings? Why all this trouble when my kids are doing fine in our deemed top public??? it is a real dilemma.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

That’s my point. You are correct, you can’t compare top publics to top privates. That’s why, generally speaking, the college outcomes are not on par.

Are you an idiot? I am saying you cannot compare because the percentages are so variable for the privates because of a low denominator.

Also, the only fair way to compare would be to figure out who is “hooked” or not and compare rates for each group separately.

Trying to figure out who is hooked vs. unhooked is an excuse public school parents like to use. I know a Black MCPS student who is a double Harvard legacy who was not admitted to Harvard this year. She has strong ECs and excellent grades, but I’m not sure if she chose to apply test optional. Either way, she was denied DESPITE her top grades and “hooks.” Perhaps if she attended a Big 3 (a third hook) she would have been admitted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

I work at a private school in the region. Our graduating class has 350 students. Is that considerably smaller than public schools? Why do you assume we have “hooked” students?

So you’re an expert on college results Instagram pages but you know nothing about the school sizes or what “hooked” means? LOL

And what top private around here has 350 seniors? None

Okay. I’m the PP. I should have expected a response like this considering it’s DCUM. I never claimed to be an expert on college results, although I’m happy to report that my private school sends students to “DCUM-worthy” schools each year. (Quotation marks are intentional. I don’t buy into elitism.)

I’m well aware what hooked means. I was calling you out on your baseless assumption that private school kids are “hooked.” They aren’t. As for 350? Try many of the Catholic high schools.

Good attempt at being rude and attempting to show me up, but it didn’t work.

Lol, Catholic??? Stop comparing your Walmart to my Saks. Catholics aren’t even in the conversation when discussing college placement. Go do a dozen hail Mary’s as penance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

That’s my point. You are correct, you can’t compare top publics to top privates. That’s why, generally speaking, the college outcomes are not on par.

Are you an idiot? I am saying you cannot compare because the percentages are so variable for the privates because of a low denominator.

Also, the only fair way to compare would be to figure out who is “hooked” or not and compare rates for each group separately.

Trying to figure out who is hooked vs. unhooked is an excuse public school parents like to use. I know a Black MCPS student who is a double Harvard legacy who was not admitted to Harvard this year. She has strong ECs and excellent grades, but I’m not sure if she chose to apply test optional. Either way, she was denied DESPITE her top grades and “hooks.” Perhaps if she attended a Big 3 (a third hook) she would have been admitted.

I also know double legacy from privates also rejected from ivy schools. One kid we know has two parents plus $ plus top private. Parents claim he was a top student with excellent test scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

I work at a private school in the region. Our graduating class has 350 students. Is that considerably smaller than public schools? Why do you assume we have “hooked” students?

So you’re an expert on college results Instagram pages but you know nothing about the school sizes or what “hooked” means? LOL

And what top private around here has 350 seniors? None

Okay. I’m the PP. I should have expected a response like this considering it’s DCUM. I never claimed to be an expert on college results, although I’m happy to report that my private school sends students to “DCUM-worthy” schools each year. (Quotation marks are intentional. I don’t buy into elitism.)

I’m well aware what hooked means. I was calling you out on your baseless assumption that private school kids are “hooked.” They aren’t. As for 350? Try many of the Catholic high schools.

Good attempt at being rude and attempting to show me up, but it didn’t work.

Lol, Catholic??? Stop comparing your Walmart to my Saks. Catholics aren’t even in the conversation when discussing college placement. Go do a dozen hail Mary’s as penance

This must be a troll. Nobody with any understanding of educational institutions (or Catholicism, for that matter) would say this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would compare your child's public honors/AP/gifted program to the private school, not the entire public school class.

Not only that, but public school families are more likely to make college decisions based on price, so there will be more kids going to state colleges and mid- range privates offering merit aid.

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

I work at a private school in the region. Our graduating class has 350 students. Is that considerably smaller than public schools? Why do you assume we have “hooked” students?

So you’re an expert on college results Instagram pages but you know nothing about the school sizes or what “hooked” means? LOL

And what top private around here has 350 seniors? None

Okay. I’m the PP. I should have expected a response like this considering it’s DCUM. I never claimed to be an expert on college results, although I’m happy to report that my private school sends students to “DCUM-worthy” schools each year. (Quotation marks are intentional. I don’t buy into elitism.)

I’m well aware what hooked means. I was calling you out on your baseless assumption that private school kids are “hooked.” They aren’t. As for 350? Try many of the Catholic high schools.

Good attempt at being rude and attempting to show me up, but it didn’t work.

Lol, Catholic??? Stop comparing your Walmart to my Saks. Catholics aren’t even in the conversation when discussing college placement. Go do a dozen hail Mary’s as penance

This must be a troll. Nobody with any understanding of educational institutions (or Catholicism, for that matter) would say this.

The pp was implying that the Catholic school was Walmart and that the pp’s school was Saks.

That exact attitude is what turns me off so much about some of these private school families. They act like they are superior. They don’t realize that some of us don’t want that for our children. I would be ashamed and embarrassed if I sent my children to a private school for them to leave with that attitude.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would compare your child's public honors/AP/gifted program to the private school, not the entire public school class.

Not only that, but public school families are more likely to make college decisions based on price, so there will be more kids going to state colleges and mid- range privates offering merit aid.

Our public high school sends many students to UVA, VT and W&M. I’m sure many of those students could have gone to deemed better private schools that cost more. Many public school families are donut hole families. They don’t qualify for financial aid but they can’t pay 300k for college for multiple kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child's private upper school class has so much drama. Here's the shortlist: Drugs & drinking (sometimes on campus), eating disorders, bullying, absenteeism, race issues that are getting worse, antisemitism, quirkiest of quirky, mean girls, bro culture, spoiled kids that have no resiliency and a lot of stress, other kids that get away with *a lot* because of who the parents (faculty and big donors), clicky parent groups, disengaged admin team who often has no clue what is happening in classes, parent gossip about each other's kids and yes, some very mediocre teachers with turnover issues. Now tell me about your public woes.

And, MCPS teachers all just got another raise. College outcomes are pretty on par with privates.

College outcomes are NOT on par with top privates. Compare Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc’s Instagram to the top DC Metro privates. By percentage, the public school students are heading to fewer Ivies and top 10 to 50 colleges. The floor (in terms of college ranking) is higher at top privates

Omg, enough with the trolling of Instagram pages. Do you really have nothing to do? Private schools have such small class sizes, a couple of “hooked” kids more or less makes a big differences in their %ages. You can’t compare.

That’s my point. You are correct, you can’t compare top publics to top privates. That’s why, generally speaking, the college outcomes are not on par.

Are you an idiot? I am saying you cannot compare because the percentages are so variable for the privates because of a low denominator.

Also, the only fair way to compare would be to figure out who is “hooked” or not and compare rates for each group separately.

Trying to figure out who is hooked vs. unhooked is an excuse public school parents like to use. I know a Black MCPS student who is a double Harvard legacy who was not admitted to Harvard this year. She has strong ECs and excellent grades, but I’m not sure if she chose to apply test optional. Either way, she was denied DESPITE her top grades and “hooks.” Perhaps if she attended a Big 3 (a third hook) she would have been admitted.

I also know double legacy from privates also rejected from ivy schools. One kid we know has two parents plus $ plus top private. Parents claim he was a top student with excellent test scores.

Aah, so you agree that legacy isn’t the hook public school parents claim it to be. Therefore, when you see all of those private school legacies being admitted to Ivies, please remember that double legacies with top grades and scores are still being rejected from those same colleges. Those students have earned their spot because legacy status isn’t enough. They still have to be qualified. You can’t have it both ways.