Why be a jerk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both things can be true: Sometimes there are legit reasons for being behind and turning in work late and other times a lot of people are BSing and trying to get away with murder.

+1

Unless you don't specify why the work was turned in late, people are going to assume it was not a legit reason because, let's face it, so many kids turn it in late because there are no consequences for turning it in late.

My kid is in a magnet. Really smart kid. DC will turn in assignments late because they know they won't get marked down for it. I've explained to DC that they cannot do this in college. It doesn't work that way. Towards the beginning of the quarter, the grades are not great. DC tells me not to worry because they will eventually turn in all the assignments. Few weeks later, DC turns in all the assignments late, and the grade goes back up to an A.

This type of policy isn't helping kids for the future. It just makes them lazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At least when I post something like that, it’s not aimed at cases where there are legit reasons for lateness. With these crazy striver parents I’m always pretty convinced their snowflake missed an assignment or just didn’t do it and now they’re scrambling at the end of the semester. THAT’S annoying and entitled.

Yeah you're just being a jerk to people online for your own entertainment. The biggest tell is the use of the word "snowflake". Not a good look for you.

I can't help you how you feel but I think that pp was right. you are too focused on how the message was delivered, not the message itself

- np

I mean I've never complained that my child wasn't given enough chances to turn something in so this isn't me taking things personally.

I also think the way messages are delivered matters. You may be "right" but if you're a jerk about it, you're still a jerk.

right vs wrong =/= jerk vs not jerk

99% of DCUM posters have posted jerky posts including you

I wasn't arguing who is right or wrong. I was saying the person who said (I noticed you scrubbed this post from the thread but here it is): "At least when I post something like that, it’s not aimed at cases where there are legit reasons for lateness. With these crazy striver parents I’m always pretty convinced their snowflake missed an assignment or just didn’t do it and now they’re scrambling at the end of the semester. THAT’S annoying and entitled." is a jerk, and they are.

[Anonymous]

BTW I absolutely am a complete a-hole to complete a-holes. Not to people posting about their/their child's struggles/challenges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both things can be true: Sometimes there are legit reasons for being behind and turning in work late and other times a lot of people are BSing and trying to get away with murder.

+1

Unless you don't specify why the work was turned in late, people are going to assume it was not a legit reason because, let's face it, so many kids turn it in late because there are no consequences for turning it in late.

My kid is in a magnet. Really smart kid. DC will turn in assignments late because they know they won't get marked down for it. I've explained to DC that they cannot do this in college. It doesn't work that way. Towards the beginning of the quarter, the grades are not great. DC tells me not to worry because they will eventually turn in all the assignments. Few weeks later, DC turns in all the assignments late, and the grade goes back up to an A.

This type of policy isn't helping kids for the future. It just makes them lazy.

It's bad for kids and bad for society. Teachers and principals got fed up with clueless parents and politicians blaming them for kids not graduating on time.

And here we are.

[Anonymous]

I think many people have difficulty accepting that education and parenting have changed and have become a lot more child-centric. Many people feel that it breeds laziness, a disregard for rules, and an entitled belief that a missed opportunity can always be made up, and that this does not prepare children well for the adult world of taxes and jury duty and prison time for felonies.

I see their point. However, I also have a child with special needs and he absolutely needs double time, he absolutely needs leeway when handing in assignments. He's a rule-follower and a hard worker.

Please consider that for every few kids who blow off assignments then rush to hand them in before the deadline, there is someone like my son who really needs these accommodations. The normal kids will learn at some point that the world has rules they need to follow. People like my son might not actually succeed in the real world, but we're trying to get them as close to financial independence as we can, and letting them fail early is not the answer. Don't make it harder for those kids to access such services!!!

[Anonymous]

solution = report it or ignore it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I think many people have difficulty accepting that education and parenting have changed and have become a lot more child-centric. Many people feel that it breeds laziness, a disregard for rules, and an entitled belief that a missed opportunity can always be made up, and that this does not prepare children well for the adult world of taxes and jury duty and prison time for felonies.

I see their point. However, I also have a child with special needs and he absolutely needs double time, he absolutely needs leeway when handing in assignments. He's a rule-follower and a hard worker.

Please consider that for every few kids who blow off assignments then rush to hand them in before the deadline, there is someone like my son who really needs these accommodations. The normal kids will learn at some point that the world has rules they need to follow. People like my son might not actually succeed in the real world, but we're trying to get them as close to financial independence as we can, and letting them fail early is not the answer. Don't make it harder for those kids to access such services!!!

Your child has documented accommodations. No one is talking about taking those away. Right now, with the very lax policies, there are a LOT of kids who blow off assignments and turn things in who absolutely do NOT need that additional time. This is what is concerning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These policies handicap students headed to college. They instill and reward bad habits. But I guess school districts don’t care what happens to students after they graduate.

Yep. They’ll become the kids my sister teaches at college, who cheat on their assignments and/or barely do work and then complain when she fails them.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand that the rules say teachers must give unlimited retakes but doesn't this force them to further work unpaid overtime. Also, if a teacher steps back and says I don't have time to regrade for 100+ kids or declines to inflate for an admin the question is will the union protect the teacher or systematically make their life's difficult with retaliation joining the bullying campaign

[Anonymous]

Because there's very few consequences for being a jerk if you're anonymous and can poke fun with minimal consequences. Allow me to demonstrate:

[Anonymous]

OP, you're dumb and ugly and your mom probably smells like roast beef!

See?