Denver school shooting suspect was on probation

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who searched him were regular High School admins. That’s ridiculous. If school policy involves pat downs of certain students that may be violent (such as this guy) it should be done but armed and trained SROs or police. End of story.
at the press conference today thry admitted there are other students under the pat down requirement too so likely they had gun charges as well


😳 Terrible decisions by so called administrators and leaders. They should replace them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You know the parents of students at this school are going to be hopping mad. Not only did Denver remove all SROs from schools, but this student had been expelled from another school and placed at this school.
It is hard to listen to officials scream about more gun control when incidents like this happen.


Now, the teenager’s past brushes with the law have come to light, revealing that he was still on probation for possession of a ghost gun at the time of Wednesday’s shooting.

Law enforcement sources told CBS Colorado that the 17-year-old had been arrested back in 2021 for possession of a ghost gun and a high capacity magazine.

His arrest came when he was a student at Overland High School and some fellow students reported photos on social media showing Lyle with a gun, the sources said.

A search of the teenager’s home then uncovered the ghost gun and magazine. He was later expelled from the school and began attending East High School.

As part of a school safety plan based on his prior behaviour, Lyle was required to be patted down for weapons each day on arrival at East High, Denver Police Chief Thomas said on Wednesday.

It was during this search that he opened fire.


https://news.yahoo.com/denver-student-probation-shot-two-130850174.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr


No, it’s not hard at all. There are crazy people in other countries, kids who are expelled from a school or suspended, kids who misbehave snd so on. The difference is that other countries dont swim in guns. Crazy kids still in high school cannot buy them and it’s a lot less likely that they can find them at home. So, hum, yes it is not hard to talk about gun control because it actually works.
Anonymous
America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting


They gave the kid probation so obviously gun possession is no biggie there. Then the school sent who....the gym teachers to do pat downs? No one takes it seriously.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*


The most obvious answer is to deal with those who are breaking the law.
Here we have a person who was found with a ghost gun just two years prior, was on probation for this crime, was expelled from his school, and yet it seems he was free to go about his business with a daily pat down being the only intervention.
How about we come down hard on those caught with illegal guns? Or, does this not meet with the definition of "restorative justice?"
Instead, we put innocent lives - all those who attended and worked at the school - in danger so that THIS kid could have his freedom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*


The most obvious answer is to deal with those who are breaking the law.
Here we have a person who was found with a ghost gun just two years prior, was on probation for this crime, was expelled from his school, and yet it seems he was free to go about his business with a daily pat down being the only intervention.
How about we come down hard on those caught with illegal guns? Or, does this not meet with the definition of "restorative justice?"
Instead, we put innocent lives - all those who attended and worked at the school - in danger so that THIS kid could have his freedom.



You’re not very bright if that’s what you find to be the obvious answer. But I understand, you conservatives have created a monstrous situation and must double-down. Sad! The 2nd amendment put innocent lives at risk because you care more about your personal right to own military grade weapons than innocent lives. Admit it! You care more about guns than 1st graders being massacred.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*


The most obvious answer is to deal with those who are breaking the law.
Here we have a person who was found with a ghost gun just two years prior, was on probation for this crime, was expelled from his school, and yet it seems he was free to go about his business with a daily pat down being the only intervention.
How about we come down hard on those caught with illegal guns? Or, does this not meet with the definition of "restorative justice?"
Instead, we put innocent lives - all those who attended and worked at the school - in danger so that THIS kid could have his freedom.



You’re not very bright if that’s what you find to be the obvious answer. But I understand, you conservatives have created a monstrous situation and must double-down. Sad! The 2nd amendment put innocent lives at risk because you care more about your personal right to own military grade weapons than innocent lives. Admit it! You care more about guns than 1st graders being massacred.



Straw man.
This guy had a pistol. No "military grade weapon" in this story.
He had a record, though. A record that involved a gun crime. And, was free to commit more crimes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*


The most obvious answer is to deal with those who are breaking the law.
Here we have a person who was found with a ghost gun just two years prior, was on probation for this crime, was expelled from his school, and yet it seems he was free to go about his business with a daily pat down being the only intervention.
How about we come down hard on those caught with illegal guns? Or, does this not meet with the definition of "restorative justice?"
Instead, we put innocent lives - all those who attended and worked at the school - in danger so that THIS kid could have his freedom.



You’re not very bright if that’s what you find to be the obvious answer. But I understand, you conservatives have created a monstrous situation and must double-down. Sad! The 2nd amendment put innocent lives at risk because you care more about your personal right to own military grade weapons than innocent lives. Admit it! You care more about guns than 1st graders being massacred.



Straw man.
This guy had a pistol. No "military grade weapon" in this story.
He had a record, though. A record that involved a gun crime. And, was free to commit more crimes.


Sure. Whatever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*


It’s like how they won’t admit that the maternal mortality rate is going up because of abortion bans resulting in inadequate healthcare.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*


It’s like how they won’t admit that the maternal mortality rate is going up because of abortion bans resulting in inadequate healthcare.


Exactly!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*
what gun law? He already broke gun laws and they didn’t punish him. Then he broke gun laws again while on probation for his prior gun law violation
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*
what gun law? He already broke gun laws and they didn’t punish him. Then he broke gun laws again while on probation for his prior gun law violation


So your answer is what? Because my answer is to get rid of guns. Your answer is to get rid of the kid- and go where? on whose dime? for how long? Breaking a gun law doesn't meet the threshold over his rights.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America cares more about gun rights than people’s lives, OP. The conservatives and many liberals in Congress do not care that people are dying.
they could jail people for gun crimes and have prevented this shooting



I don’t know much about juvenile law so I can’t comment. But I leave it to conservatives to look for anything BUT the most obvious answer. Meanwhile Americans keep dying from an easily solved problem. It wasn’t always like this. 2nd Amendment folks assist murderers. Hell of a job, you’re doing! *slow clap*
what gun law? He already broke gun laws and they didn’t punish him. Then he broke gun laws again while on probation for his prior gun law violation


So your answer is what? Because my answer is to get rid of guns. Your answer is to get rid of the kid- and go where? on whose dime? for how long? Breaking a gun law doesn't meet the threshold over his rights.


He has no right to have a gun in the first place. He is a minor.
He was a criminal. And, the "system" seemed to be more concerned with the rights of this criminal than the rights of others. And, so do you.
And, your answer is to take firearms away from law abiding citizens because criminals have them. So, let's say that happens..... Who will be the ones with firearms then? You think criminals are going to turn in their firearms?
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