Math track if taking Algebra 1 in 7th?

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Anonymous wrote:I think all middle schools do offer Geometry in FCPS currently.

My 8th grade SON takes geometry now. I have a daughter in 2nd grade. So if they pull back on advanced math offerings, my DAUGHTER won't have the same opportunity to take advanced math as her other brother? Way to hold back girls.

You do realize that it doesn't matter that you have an older son and a younger daughter? If the Advanced Math track changes for some reason, it is not because they want to deprive girls of an opportunity. It is not like boys will be allowed on the advanced math track and girls are not.

Depends if your school offers non-IB upper level courses. Some do, some don't. You can absolutely take IB year 2 as an 11th grader, but if you are a diploma candidate and it's an HL course the test must be taken your senior year. If you aren't a diploma candidate you can test any time.

Thanks, it is just taking the test. I looked at my child's future high school and they have math beyond IB HL. I don't get why they have to wait to take the test if they are in the diploma track but such is life.

I don't care what their intent is - I care about the impact / result. We shouldn't want girls of all people held back in STEM.

DP. You sound pretty silly. If your DD were a DS, then you wouldn't care at all?

SMH

I would probably care then too - but the fact that my youngest is a girl illustrates the real absurdity of the change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Memorization really kicks up in Precalculus and Calculus

Not if it's taught well. Just about every trig identity can be derived from the basics and some geometry, and just about every differentiation rule can be derived from the chain rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all middle schools do offer Geometry in FCPS currently.

My 8th grade SON takes geometry now. I have a daughter in 2nd grade. So if they pull back on advanced math offerings, my DAUGHTER won't have the same opportunity to take advanced math as her other brother? Way to hold back girls.

You do realize that it doesn't matter that you have an older son and a younger daughter? If the Advanced Math track changes for some reason, it is not because they want to deprive girls of an opportunity. It is not like boys will be allowed on the advanced math track and girls are not.

Depends if your school offers non-IB upper level courses. Some do, some don't. You can absolutely take IB year 2 as an 11th grader, but if you are a diploma candidate and it's an HL course the test must be taken your senior year. If you aren't a diploma candidate you can test any time.

Thanks, it is just taking the test. I looked at my child's future high school and they have math beyond IB HL. I don't get why they have to wait to take the test if they are in the diploma track but such is life.

I don't care what their intent is - I care about the impact / result. We shouldn't want girls of all people held back in STEM.

DP. You sound pretty silly. If your DD were a DS, then you wouldn't care at all?

SMH

I would probably care then too - but the fact that my youngest is a girl illustrates the real absurdity of the change.

There would be an equal numbers of girls who took accelerated math with younger sibling boys who were denied. This is a crazy argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Memorization really kicks up in Precalculus and Calculus

Not if it's taught well. Just about every trig identity can be derived from the basics and some geometry, and just about every differentiation rule can be derived from the chain rule.

True, but deriving it for a quiz takes a lot longer than jotting it down from memory. And it takes an extra skill level that is not present in all honors kids to derive it without guidance. I majored in math and am not gifted in memorization (unlike my children), so those two were the first math courses where I had to memorize more things (other than geometry for proofs).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all middle schools do offer Geometry in FCPS currently.

My 8th grade SON takes geometry now. I have a daughter in 2nd grade. So if they pull back on advanced math offerings, my DAUGHTER won't have the same opportunity to take advanced math as her other brother? Way to hold back girls.

You do realize that it doesn't matter that you have an older son and a younger daughter? If the Advanced Math track changes for some reason, it is not because they want to deprive girls of an opportunity. It is not like boys will be allowed on the advanced math track and girls are not.

Depends if your school offers non-IB upper level courses. Some do, some don't. You can absolutely take IB year 2 as an 11th grader, but if you are a diploma candidate and it's an HL course the test must be taken your senior year. If you aren't a diploma candidate you can test any time.

Thanks, it is just taking the test. I looked at my child's future high school and they have math beyond IB HL. I don't get why they have to wait to take the test if they are in the diploma track but such is life.

I don't care what their intent is - I care about the impact / result. We shouldn't want girls of all people held back in STEM.

DP. You sound pretty silly. If your DD were a DS, then you wouldn't care at all?

SMH

I would probably care then too - but the fact that my youngest is a girl illustrates the real absurdity of the change.

There would be an equal numbers of girls who took accelerated math with younger sibling boys who were denied. This is a crazy argument.

The point is under no circumstances should we ever limit advanced math options for girls of all people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Memorization really kicks up in Precalculus and Calculus

Not if it's taught well. Just about every trig identity can be derived from the basics and some geometry, and just about every differentiation rule can be derived from the chain rule.

True, but deriving it for a quiz takes a lot longer than jotting it down from memory. And it takes an extra skill level that is not present in all honors kids to derive it without guidance. I majored in math and am not gifted in memorization (unlike my children), so those two were the first math courses where I had to memorize more things (other than geometry for proofs).

Math is not about memorization, it just feels that way for kids for a variety of reasons. You majoring in math clearly supports this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all middle schools do offer Geometry in FCPS currently.

My 8th grade SON takes geometry now. I have a daughter in 2nd grade. So if they pull back on advanced math offerings, my DAUGHTER won't have the same opportunity to take advanced math as her other brother? Way to hold back girls.

You do realize that it doesn't matter that you have an older son and a younger daughter? If the Advanced Math track changes for some reason, it is not because they want to deprive girls of an opportunity. It is not like boys will be allowed on the advanced math track and girls are not.

Depends if your school offers non-IB upper level courses. Some do, some don't. You can absolutely take IB year 2 as an 11th grader, but if you are a diploma candidate and it's an HL course the test must be taken your senior year. If you aren't a diploma candidate you can test any time.

Thanks, it is just taking the test. I looked at my child's future high school and they have math beyond IB HL. I don't get why they have to wait to take the test if they are in the diploma track but such is life.

I don't care what their intent is - I care about the impact / result. We shouldn't want girls of all people held back in STEM.

DP. You sound pretty silly. If your DD were a DS, then you wouldn't care at all?

SMH

I would probably care then too - but the fact that my youngest is a girl illustrates the real absurdity of the change.

There would be an equal numbers of girls who took accelerated math with younger sibling boys who were denied. This is a crazy argument.

The point is under no circumstances should we ever limit advanced math options for girls of all people.

But it is ok to limit math options for boys?