Affording Indiana

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Anonymous wrote:I would encourage IU over Miami because of location and quality, but if you got into JMU, want to stay East Coast and money is a factor, it makes sense to go there.

NP. Totally agree. JMU offers both communications and hospitality and has so much going for it.

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Some people seem to have their own agenda here -- OP actually never mentioned JMU.

At any rate, Indiana (IU Bloomington) is generally regarded as a better university than Miami of Ohio (ie ranked significantly higher by USNWR, Forbes and WSJ/THE). It has higher ranked programs, more of a national reputation, and the town of Bloomington is generally regarded as one of the best college towns in the US, with a lot more going on than (pleasant but small) Oxford. IU is also more than twice as big as Miami (that's not a value judgment - just something to be aware of -- although it does mean that while both IU and Miami have a Greek scene, there are more non-Greek options at IU). People who emerge from IU (those I know) mostly love it with an enthusiasm that i haven't seen in the Miami alums i know.

As for JMU, the gap between IU and JMU is even greater, in perceived educational quality, reputation, and regional bias (ie, IU has nearly twice as many out of state students and many many times more international students than JMU).

Only you know how much of a burden the additional cost of IU would be for your family - and if it's really material, don't worry because Miami is a fine college. But in the case of IU vs. Miami, i think you'd be getting significant added value for the added $.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people seem to have their own agenda here -- OP actually never mentioned JMU.

At any rate, Indiana (IU Bloomington) is generally regarded as a better university than Miami of Ohio (ie ranked significantly higher by USNWR, Forbes and WSJ/THE). It has higher ranked programs, more of a national reputation, and the town of Bloomington is generally regarded as one of the best college towns in the US, with a lot more going on than (pleasant but small) Oxford. IU is also more than twice as big as Miami (that's not a value judgment - just something to be aware of -- although it does mean that while both IU and Miami have a Greek scene, there are more non-Greek options at IU). People who emerge from IU (those I know) mostly love it with an enthusiasm that i haven't seen in the Miami alums i know.

As for JMU, the gap between IU and JMU is even greater, in perceived educational quality, reputation, and regional bias (ie, IU has nearly twice as many out of state students and many many times more international students than JMU).

Only you know how much of a burden the additional cost of IU would be for your family - and if it's really material, don't worry because Miami is a fine college. But in the case of IU vs. Miami, i think you'd be getting significant added value for the added $.

But the OP mentioned VT as her "top choice" and the difference in quality in a hospitality/communications degree between VT and JMU is non-existent. So totally sensible to find out if she applied to other in-state publics if one was her first choice.

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My kid had an amazing time at IU, was out of state, but went solely for the Kelley school of business brand. I would look at how those specific majors rank. If highly ranked and good post grad employment, then I would say yes. And do not get swayed by the continuous posting of it only being a Midwest recruiting school. Most all of the dmv kids we know came back here or to nyc. A few went to Chicago/ Indianapolis but with large companies with offices throughout the nation.

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She may also want to consider where she wants to end up after graduation. I'm from the DMV, went to VT for undergrad and IU for grad. I found significantly more west and midwest internship and job opportunities represented at IU then VT. Not a value statement, just be aware that future geography could be impacted by choice. FWIW, I loved IU, Bloomington, and even though I only spent 3 years there have strong ties to it.

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Anonymous wrote:She may also want to consider where she wants to end up after graduation. I'm from the DMV, went to VT for undergrad and IU for grad. I found significantly more west and midwest internship and job opportunities represented at IU then VT. Not a value statement, just be aware that future geography could be impacted by choice. FWIW, I loved IU, Bloomington, and even though I only spent 3 years there have strong ties to it.

+100. So nice to read that you liked Bloomington and IU. I have two degrees from IUB. I am originally from Indiana but moved here to the DMV years ago. My IU degrees have served me well in the DC area. Bloomington/IU is a special place. Warms my heart when people on DCUM praise it rather than tearing it apart...

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has fallen in love with Indiana and she didn't get into Tech which was her first choice. She has gotten into Miami Ohio which gave her a bunch of aid, making it cost about $38,000. Making Miami Ohio $38,000 and Indiana about $50,000, plus flights and ect. We could afford Indiana if we really wanted plus she got a $5,000 a year scholarship and has applied for a bunch of other scholarships. ItJust wanted to her some insight about thoughts on paying more for a school and if its all worth it. Thank you!

Btw she is majoring in hospitality or communications.

Are you inquiring about "paying up" for Indiana when cheaper options are available? If you can afford, sure. Well respected school. We will likely be in a similar situation, by not taking the "cheapest" alternative. Yes, $50k is a chunk of money, but it's not like your paying $85k for some no name SLAC that's a glorified babysitter. Congratulations. Best of luck!!

Agree with this statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Some people seem to have their own agenda here -- OP actually never mentioned JMU.

At any rate, Indiana (IU Bloomington) is generally regarded as a better university than Miami of Ohio (ie ranked significantly higher by USNWR, Forbes and WSJ/THE). It has higher ranked programs, more of a national reputation, and the town of Bloomington is generally regarded as one of the best college towns in the US, with a lot more going on than (pleasant but small) Oxford. IU is also more than twice as big as Miami (that's not a value judgment - just something to be aware of -- although it does mean that while both IU and Miami have a Greek scene, there are more non-Greek options at IU). People who emerge from IU (those I know) mostly love it with an enthusiasm that i haven't seen in the Miami alums i know.

As for JMU, the gap between IU and JMU is even greater, in perceived educational quality, reputation, and regional bias (ie, IU has nearly twice as many out of state students and many many times more international students than JMU).

Only you know how much of a burden the additional cost of IU would be for your family - and if it's really material, don't worry because Miami is a fine college. But in the case of IU vs. Miami, i think you'd be getting significant added value for the added $.

But the OP mentioned VT as her "top choice" and the difference in quality in a hospitality/communications degree between VT and JMU is non-existent. So totally sensible to find out if she applied to other in-state publics if one was her first choice.

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Not sure how common sense is "having an agenda." The OP can take the suggestion or not.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:She may also want to consider where she wants to end up after graduation. I'm from the DMV, went to VT for undergrad and IU for grad. I found significantly more west and midwest internship and job opportunities represented at IU then VT. Not a value statement, just be aware that future geography could be impacted by choice. FWIW, I loved IU, Bloomington, and even though I only spent 3 years there have strong ties to it.

+100. So nice to read that you liked Bloomington and IU. I have two degrees from IUB. I am originally from Indiana but moved here to the DMV years ago. My IU degrees have served me well in the DC area. Bloomington/IU is a special place. Warms my heart when people on DCUM praise it rather than tearing it apart...

Off topic, but how about their women's basketball team!!! We went to Bloomington this weekend and watched them beat the hell out of the Purdue team to clinch the Big 10 regular season title. Sold out Assembly Hall!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has fallen in love with Indiana and she didn't get into Tech which was her first choice. She has gotten into Miami Ohio which gave her a bunch of aid, making it cost about $38,000. Making Miami Ohio $38,000 and Indiana about $50,000, plus flights and ect. We could afford Indiana if we really wanted plus she got a $5,000 a year scholarship and has applied for a bunch of other scholarships. ItJust wanted to her some insight about thoughts on paying more for a school and if its all worth it. Thank you!

Btw she is majoring in hospitality or communications.

IU was on my father's list for me back in 1990. I never applied and never visited. I have met a few people in life that went there and they really liked it.

30+ years later I still haven't visited and now it's on my child's list (Kelley School).

I will admit it seems attractive online and checks lots of boxes. Clearly we need to visit.

I'd love to know what made OP's daughter fall in love with it.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has fallen in love with Indiana and she didn't get into Tech which was her first choice. She has gotten into Miami Ohio which gave her a bunch of aid, making it cost about $38,000. Making Miami Ohio $38,000 and Indiana about $50,000, plus flights and ect. We could afford Indiana if we really wanted plus she got a $5,000 a year scholarship and has applied for a bunch of other scholarships. ItJust wanted to her some insight about thoughts on paying more for a school and if its all worth it. Thank you!

Btw she is majoring in hospitality or communications.

Is IU or Miami of Ohio known for either of these majors? If not, I would discourage, unless you have ample funds. I am skeptical of a communications degree. Hospitality seems more practical, if that's what she really wants to do. I would not pay top dollar, but I am cost conscious.

Indiana is very well-regarded for journalism. Not sure about communications.

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Anonymous wrote:She may also want to consider where she wants to end up after graduation. I'm from the DMV, went to VT for undergrad and IU for grad. I found significantly more west and midwest internship and job opportunities represented at IU then VT. Not a value statement, just be aware that future geography could be impacted by choice. FWIW, I loved IU, Bloomington, and even though I only spent 3 years there have strong ties to it.

+100. So nice to read that you liked Bloomington and IU. I have two degrees from IUB. I am originally from Indiana but moved here to the DMV years ago. My IU degrees have served me well in the DC area. Bloomington/IU is a special place. Warms my heart when people on DCUM praise it rather than tearing it apart...

Off topic, but how about their women's basketball team!!! We went to Bloomington this weekend and watched them beat the hell out of the Purdue team to clinch the Big 10 regular season title. Sold out Assembly Hall!

+10000. I know! So wonderful that you actually went to the game. I can only imagine the energy in Assembly Hall. Good times!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has fallen in love with Indiana and she didn't get into Tech which was her first choice. She has gotten into Miami Ohio which gave her a bunch of aid, making it cost about $38,000. Making Miami Ohio $38,000 and Indiana about $50,000, plus flights and ect. We could afford Indiana if we really wanted plus she got a $5,000 a year scholarship and has applied for a bunch of other scholarships. ItJust wanted to her some insight about thoughts on paying more for a school and if its all worth it. Thank you!

Btw she is majoring in hospitality or communications.

Are you inquiring about "paying up" for Indiana when cheaper options are available? If you can afford, sure. Well respected school. We will likely be in a similar situation, by not taking the "cheapest" alternative. Yes, $50k is a chunk of money, but it's not like your paying $85k for some no name SLAC that's a glorified babysitter. Congratulations. Best of luck!!

Why denigrate SLACs/LACs? Each to their own, but I don't see why this jab needed to be included if you made a different decision. Honestly, most no-name LACs will provide a lot of aid and the S(elective)LACs offer some of the best undergraduate teaching experiences in the country and good industry/graduate school connections. Personally, I would be less excited about paying a hefty sum for an OOS public when those in-state kids get the real deal, but hey, each to their own. There's a more polite way to phrase differences in personal choice and values. If you kid decided to go OOS for Indiana, I would be really happy for them.

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Anonymous wrote:She may also want to consider where she wants to end up after graduation. I'm from the DMV, went to VT for undergrad and IU for grad. I found significantly more west and midwest internship and job opportunities represented at IU then VT. Not a value statement, just be aware that future geography could be impacted by choice. FWIW, I loved IU, Bloomington, and even though I only spent 3 years there have strong ties to it.

+100. So nice to read that you liked Bloomington and IU. I have two degrees from IUB. I am originally from Indiana but moved here to the DMV years ago. My IU degrees have served me well in the DC area. Bloomington/IU is a special place. Warms my heart when people on DCUM praise it rather than tearing it apart...

Off topic, but how about their women's basketball team!!! We went to Bloomington this weekend and watched them beat the hell out of the Purdue team to clinch the Big 10 regular season title. Sold out Assembly Hall!

+10000. I know! So wonderful that you actually went to the game. I can only imagine the energy in Assembly Hall. Good times!

My son plays in the pep band. It’s fantastic.

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Anonymous wrote:She may also want to consider where she wants to end up after graduation. I'm from the DMV, went to VT for undergrad and IU for grad. I found significantly more west and midwest internship and job opportunities represented at IU then VT. Not a value statement, just be aware that future geography could be impacted by choice. FWIW, I loved IU, Bloomington, and even though I only spent 3 years there have strong ties to it.

+100. So nice to read that you liked Bloomington and IU. I have two degrees from IUB. I am originally from Indiana but moved here to the DMV years ago. My IU degrees have served me well in the DC area. Bloomington/IU is a special place. Warms my heart when people on DCUM praise it rather than tearing it apart...

Off topic, but how about their women's basketball team!!! We went to Bloomington this weekend and watched them beat the hell out of the Purdue team to clinch the Big 10 regular season title. Sold out Assembly Hall!

+10000. I know! So wonderful that you actually went to the game. I can only imagine the energy in Assembly Hall. Good times!

My son plays in the pep band. It’s fantastic.

Oh how wonderful! He must have the best time. I envy the fun the pep band and Marching 100 seemed to have. Also, they made life long friends in those two groups!