The Dawn Project - Super Bowl Ad re: Tesla FSD Accidents

[Anonymous]

Even Musk does not pretend Tesla’s FSD is safe on its own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

The Dawn Project did the testing. The article says Business Insider reviewed driver’s view footage of the incidents to confirm that FSD was engaged at the time of the collisions.

I'm sure that wasn't biased at all.

Any independent testing?

The big concern by the billionaire behind the Dawn project is the prospect of cars being hacked and used as weapons by terrorists or foreign agents.

I don't know whether it's a valid concern, but it is a valid question.

My guess is self-driving cars don't really become a thing until quantum computing is firmly entrenched.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

The Dawn Project did the testing. The article says Business Insider reviewed driver’s view footage of the incidents to confirm that FSD was engaged at the time of the collisions.

I'm sure that wasn't biased at all.

Any independent testing?

The big concern by the billionaire behind the Dawn project is the prospect of cars being hacked and used as weapons by terrorists or foreign agents.

I don't know whether it's a valid concern, but it is a valid question.

My guess is self-driving cars don't really become a thing until quantum computing is firmly entrenched.

So another reason why he’s biased.

No one has come up with links to independent testing? Stop pushing BS you can’t back up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

The Dawn Project did the testing. The article says Business Insider reviewed driver’s view footage of the incidents to confirm that FSD was engaged at the time of the collisions.

I'm sure that wasn't biased at all.

Any independent testing?

The big concern by the billionaire behind the Dawn project is the prospect of cars being hacked and used as weapons by terrorists or foreign agents.

I don't know whether it's a valid concern, but it is a valid question.

My guess is self-driving cars don't really become a thing until quantum computing is firmly entrenched.

So another reason why he’s biased.

No one has come up with links to independent testing? Stop pushing BS you can’t back up.

Biased doesn't make him wrong. I have no skin in this game, I just find your knee-jerk reaction to this to be rather suspect. I have no idea whether there is independent testing, but I don't respond to sealion trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

The Dawn Project did the testing. The article says Business Insider reviewed driver’s view footage of the incidents to confirm that FSD was engaged at the time of the collisions.

I'm sure that wasn't biased at all.

Any independent testing?

The big concern by the billionaire behind the Dawn project is the prospect of cars being hacked and used as weapons by terrorists or foreign agents.

I don't know whether it's a valid concern, but it is a valid question.

My guess is self-driving cars don't really become a thing until quantum computing is firmly entrenched.

So another reason why he’s biased.

No one has come up with links to independent testing? Stop pushing BS you can’t back up.

Biased doesn't make him wrong. I have no skin in this game, I just find your knee-jerk reaction to this to be rather suspect. I have no idea whether there is independent testing, but I don't respond to sealion trolls.

A few posters have claimed there are studies that show how dangerous Tesla FSD is.

Put up or shut up.

- would never use FSD but I hate people lying on the interwebs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

DAWN project isn't fly by night.

Testing has been done by others as well all showing the same.

Last month, a Tesla engineer testified that a 2016 demo in which the company claimed its car was driving itself was actually staged. Under oath in a court of law.

Still waiting on the links for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk lies we know that it is a fact.

Yes, the self driving feature for Tesla's has been studied.

So far you want to risk your families lives more power to you.

I sold mine.

Links?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk lies we know that it is a fact.

Yes, the self driving feature for Tesla's has been studied.

So far you want to risk your families lives more power to you.

I sold mine.

Who actually uses it if it is even on the model you bought? You must be a fool.

[Anonymous]

Given how often all the other technology in my life fails, plus how often all my data with corporations is hacked, there is no way I would use this.

Did anyone watch that Halle Berry sci if TV show? They had driving cars and someone hacked into her husbands to drive him in front of a train to kill him. I already assume people can hack into the Tesla system and see where I am, if they cared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

DAWN project isn't fly by night.

Testing has been done by others as well all showing the same.

Last month, a Tesla engineer testified that a 2016 demo in which the company claimed its car was driving itself was actually staged. Under oath in a court of law.

Still waiting on the links for this.

DP. The problem with what you are asking for is that no one but Tesla has the ability to do the kind of larger-scale controlled testing you seem to be looking for. That would take multiple test models of Teslas equipped with activated FSD, which would be prohibitively expensive. The best outside groups can do is collect real-world incident data (which is limited because there just aren’t that many on the road) to derive and extrapolate the results. Tesla is in the best position to demonstrate the safety of its FSD, but they won’t publicly release it and even they don’t claim their FSD is safe for use without constant driver engagement. This is why Tesla had been accused by many as using its customers as crash test dummies.

In absence of that kind of large-scale testing, we have to rely on anecdotes like this to assess the safety of Tesla’s FSD:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/21/test-driving-gm-ford-and-tesla-hands-free-systems.html

[Anonymous]

I am not an Elon or Tesla guy but the CEO of the Dawn Project HATES Elon and has been running campaigns for years against him. He ran for public office on the sole platform that he would kill FSD. This is a case of billionaires fighting billionaires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is any of it legit? What are the sources?

DAWN project isn't fly by night.

Testing has been done by others as well all showing the same.

Last month, a Tesla engineer testified that a 2016 demo in which the company claimed its car was driving itself was actually staged. Under oath in a court of law.

Still waiting on the links for this.

DP. The problem with what you are asking for is that no one but Tesla has the ability to do the kind of larger-scale controlled testing you seem to be looking for. That would take multiple test models of Teslas equipped with activated FSD, which would be prohibitively expensive. The best outside groups can do is collect real-world incident data (which is limited because there just aren’t that many on the road) to derive and extrapolate the results. Tesla is in the best position to demonstrate the safety of its FSD, but they won’t publicly release it and even they don’t claim their FSD is safe for use without constant driver engagement. This is why Tesla had been accused by many as using its customers as crash test dummies.

In absence of that kind of large-scale testing, we have to rely on anecdotes like this to assess the safety of Tesla’s FSD:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/21/test-driving-gm-ford-and-tesla-hands-free-systems.html

So the PPs were lying about “testing by others”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not an Elon or Tesla guy but the CEO of the Dawn Project HATES Elon and has been running campaigns for years against him. He ran for public office on the sole platform that he would kill FSD. This is a case of billionaires fighting billionaires.

Billionaire butthurt begets bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not an Elon or Tesla guy but the CEO of the Dawn Project HATES Elon and has been running campaigns for years against him. He ran for public office on the sole platform that he would kill FSD. This is a case of billionaires fighting billionaires.

To be sure, Elon is eminently hateworthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not an Elon or Tesla guy but the CEO of the Dawn Project HATES Elon and has been running campaigns for years against him. He ran for public office on the sole platform that he would kill FSD. This is a case of billionaires fighting billionaires.

This.

FSD isn't a hands-off pay no attention feature. It's just like a lot of features on other cars, or even cruise control.