Another Tesla question (sorry)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP going from a mini van to a Tesla LOL why in the world?

From everything you described about liking the mini van a Tesla has none of it.

Not to men space no there is no "space"

Also, buying a Tesla right now is just stupid. He's literally tanking the company, but hey you want to buy that crap because that is what it is then by all means.

There are plenty of better more reliable EV's for way less.

Your post makes zero sense.

By the way I had four Tesla's they all sucked.

Not a fan of 2022 Elon but want a good deal.

Which other EVs would you recommend? We can figure out alternatives to the road trip part but storage space is def. a concern. Not looking for another minivan however..

The Teslas now are not a good “deal”. They are cheaper than they were, but they were overpriced before for what it was. Neat car, but They have a lot of issues. They were new age, couldn’t keep up with demand, and had a promising future from what the CEO claimed at the time. But at this point, it looks like the gig may be up, other brands are catching up, there are more EV options, and tesla’s brand/value may drop even more.

DH had one on order this summer. For the options and model he chose, They gave him a 6-8 month estimated delivery date. He was already on the fence, but looking at the used ones for sale he figured he could sell it for at least what he paid - probably more - if he changed his mind. Anyway, he came to his senses and canceled his order 2 months ago.. He checked last week; the used market has plummeted and for orders placed now the EDD is only 3-6 weeks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You said “ We are not particular about non-value factors like the environment or owning something 'cool' like an EV”

But it sounds like you are particular about those things bc presumably a minivan is no longer cool (even if it meets your needs best) and it sounds like you are exclusively focused on EVs.

At this point, you're just trying to save face..

Let me rephrase:
- I have a Honda Odyssey.
- I want to replace it with something that has similar features.
- Don't care about Elon, Environment or cool but want to know if Model Y is "worth it" and will meet my needs
- If not, what other SUV's would you recommend?

I covered all of the above in my OP (please re-read). If you don't have helpful answers, let's end this dialog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP going from a mini van to a Tesla LOL why in the world?

From everything you described about liking the mini van a Tesla has none of it.

Not to men space no there is no "space"

Also, buying a Tesla right now is just stupid. He's literally tanking the company, but hey you want to buy that crap because that is what it is then by all means.

There are plenty of better more reliable EV's for way less.

Your post makes zero sense.

By the way I had four Tesla's they all sucked.

Why didn't you stop after the first?

First PP is as dumb as he sounds and just making stuff up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Savings on gas is real but if you really need all the space of a minivan and do a lot of long distance trips it might not be the best option for you.

Pacifica has a hybrid minivan which avoids the need for gas on trips around town but it can be hard to find.

OP. Thanks. Not looking for a minivan though..

So your entire OP is about how you need full leg space for 7 people and you didn’t think to mention you don’t want a minivan? GL

Well.. my extensive list of questions about the Model Y (not a minivan) should have made that obvious.

You did say “…. the van is pushing 200K miles and needs to be replaced soon” and then you mention model Y or other EVs.
It sounded like you loved your van, but was asking about the model Y. Posters assumed that if they couldn’t positively recommend the model Y
For you that they should make other suggestions - hence great vans come to mind for someone who admittedly loved theirs until it “fell apart”.

Either way, we get it now. No vans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You said “ We are not particular about non-value factors like the environment or owning something 'cool' like an EV”

But it sounds like you are particular about those things bc presumably a minivan is no longer cool (even if it meets your needs best) and it sounds like you are exclusively focused on EVs.

At this point, you're just trying to save face..

Let me rephrase:
- I have a Honda Odyssey.
- I want to replace it with something that has similar features.
- Don't care about Elon, Environment or cool but want to know if Model Y is "worth it" and will meet my needs
- If not, what other SUV's would you recommend?

I covered all of the above in my OP (please re-read). If you don't have helpful answers, let's end this dialog.

We had a minivan in the past (Sienna) and now have a Model Y. We love the Model Y but it does add time to longer trips (super charging takes longer than getting gas) and more planning is involved. It is NOT a good car if you need 7 seats. Assuming you have captain's chairs in the minivan, you also can't beat the convenience or the height of those for putting kids in and out of car seats and all things related to car seats. The Tesla is only bench seats and they are significantly lower than a minivan captains chairs.

If you need 7 seats for a tall family, your best non mini-van bet is a Suburban or Yukon XL but that will drive your gas costs in the opposite direction of your goal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You said “ We are not particular about non-value factors like the environment or owning something 'cool' like an EV”

But it sounds like you are particular about those things bc presumably a minivan is no longer cool (even if it meets your needs best) and it sounds like you are exclusively focused on EVs.

At this point, you're just trying to save face..

Let me rephrase:
- I have a Honda Odyssey.
- I want to replace it with something that has similar features.
- Don't care about Elon, Environment or cool but want to know if Model Y is "worth it" and will meet my needs
- If not, what other SUV's would you recommend?

I covered all of the above in my OP (please re-read). If you don't have helpful answers, let's end this dialog.

We had a minivan in the past (Sienna) and now have a Model Y. We love the Model Y but it does add time to longer trips (super charging takes longer than getting gas) and more planning is involved. It is NOT a good car if you need 7 seats. Assuming you have captain's chairs in the minivan, you also can't beat the convenience or the height of those for putting kids in and out of car seats and all things related to car seats. The Tesla is only bench seats and they are significantly lower than a minivan captains chairs.

If you need 7 seats for a tall family, your best non mini-van bet is a Suburban or Yukon XL but that will drive your gas costs in the opposite direction of your goal!

OP. Thanks! The suburban and Yukon are huge! I don't think we can accommodate that footprint in the garage. We'll have to revisit those again this year.

[Anonymous]

Audi E Tron OP $7500 off

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Savings on gas is real but if you really need all the space of a minivan and do a lot of long distance trips it might not be the best option for you.

Pacifica has a hybrid minivan which avoids the need for gas on trips around town but it can be hard to find.

OP. Thanks. Not looking for a minivan though..

So your entire OP is about how you need full leg space for 7 people and you didn’t think to mention you don’t want a minivan? GL

Well.. my extensive list of questions about the Model Y (not a minivan) should have made that obvious.

You did say “…. the van is pushing 200K miles and needs to be replaced soon” and then you mention model Y or other EVs.
It sounded like you loved your van, but was asking about the model Y. Posters assumed that if they couldn’t positively recommend the model Y
For you that they should make other suggestions - hence great vans come to mind for someone who admittedly loved theirs until it “fell apart”.

Either way, we get it now. No vans

Must have the last work, huh.

I'm glad you get it.. finally..after completely ignoring one my specific questions in the OP

"- The Model Y (grey color, 7 seater) prices at $58K. What other SUVs are out there that are in the 35-50K price range and give me all the things I want (smallest possible footprint, 7-seater, trunk space, etc.)?"

Plenty of others got my questions though and have been helpful..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Audi E Tron OP $7500 off

Thanks! Will check it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP going from a mini van to a Tesla LOL why in the world?

From everything you described about liking the mini van a Tesla has none of it.

Not to men space no there is no "space"

Also, buying a Tesla right now is just stupid. He's literally tanking the company, but hey you want to buy that crap n because that is what it is then by all means.

There are plenty of better more reliable EV's for way less.

Your post makes zero sense.

By the way I had four Tesla's they all sucked.

Not a fan of 2022 Elon but want a good deal.

Which other EVs would you recommend? We can figure out alternatives to the road trip part but storage space is def. a concern. Not looking for another minivan however..

My husband bought an S, a number of years ago when they were hard to come by and he paid about 120k. The car was good for the first couple years, but would have a reoccurring problem that they just never fixed properly. It was a lemon. The customer service at the dealership was lousy and not what you would expect for that price point. He finally sold it and bought one of the new, cheap models and really likes it. Something with the warranty and selling it back made him buy a Tesla again. I know someone else who had a lemon of an older Tesla. You will save on gas but you will still need to stop to recharge after about 4 hours if I remember correctly. Anyway, I’m not a fan of Elon or the crappy customer service offered for a luxury vehicle. I think a lot of people are excited by the electric Volvo SUV. But I can’t vouch for it. GL.

[Anonymous]

I am going from a coupe to a SUV for our first family car. Everyone with a Tesla told me not to buy a Tesla.

[Anonymous]

Worth looking at the PHEV coming online now. They have EV motors that can go 25-50 miles on electric (more than enough for most people driving locally) and they offer more cargo and seating room than current EVs. We were in the market for a new car and could not find anything that had remotely adequate cargo or seating. We could not stomach spending 50-70k for a car in whose backseat no full size adult would be willing to ride.

[Anonymous]

If you need a comfortable 7 seater, and not a mini van, it will be a very large SUV. Those are your only options, but it seems you also don’t want a very large SUV?

Mid size SUV’s generally have 7 seat option but the back seats are tight. So it’s either large SUV, mini van, or mid-size SUV with a tighter fit. Pick one of the 3, but not a model Y since it’s way too small for what you want.

[Anonymous]

We love our Tesla. There are 6 Tesla owners in our family and none of us had ever had a problem with the car. We can take our family of 4 (two over 6 foot) with all of our golf clubs and luggage in the Model 3. The question about cost savings barely makes sense because I couldn't even tell you what it costs to charge as we see no difference in our electric bill at all. The most we ever paid to charge on the road was $8, I think, and it was ready to go by the time we had all used the restroom and bought water.

If the Y doesn't work for your family size (I've never been in one) and a Suburban or Yukon is too big (I really like both of those when you need a huge vehicle), the Highlander Hybrid has been fine. Gas milage isn't great compared to a good German car, but better than a truck. There is very little space for luggage when the third row is up though, so we have to use a roof rack for vacations. And the third row is not comfortable for an adult, barely works for a teen.

[Anonymous]

We have a 7 seater Y and love it. Either the 6 yo will sit in the way back or I’ll sit there sideways. Wouldn’t be great for a long trip but for our purposes it works just fine.