Clinic/Shadow Requirements and Applying to Med School?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to say the admission is really really hard...

Yes, everyone I knew who went into medicine 20 years ago was normal, went to parties, dated, socialized and had good solid grades and some volunteering experience. Now, these types of mere mortals can’t get in. You have to be a genius gunner uber nerd who spends every second of your life from age 5 on building your medical school application.

Everyone I know 20 years ago went to med school for the money. The med students I know now have a more authentic interest.

And they begin ECs in college, not age 5. Or high school. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to say the admission is really really hard...

Yes, everyone I knew who went into medicine 20 years ago was normal, went to parties, dated, socialized and had good solid grades and some volunteering experience. Now, these types of mere mortals can’t get in. You have to be a genius gunner uber nerd who spends every second of your life from age 5 on building your medical school application.

Everyone I know 20 years ago went to med school for the money. The med students I know now have a more authentic interest.

Yeah, sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to say the admission is really really hard...

Yes, everyone I knew who went into medicine 20 years ago was normal, went to parties, dated, socialized and had good solid grades and some volunteering experience. Now, these types of mere mortals can’t get in. You have to be a genius gunner uber nerd who spends every second of your life from age 5 on building your medical school application.

Everyone I know 20 years ago went to med school for the money. The med students I know now have a more authentic interest.

And they begin ECs in college, not age 5. Or high school. 🙄

You are so naive. They do start building their applications in high school, joining HOSA, taking college level classes and AP science prereqs, and even getting scientific research experience and publications (usually the students who do this are very connected).

[Anonymous]

The kids who go to medical school and finish first two years and then start doing rotations along with long hours ahead of them in residency and know what to expect, will be happy to do those long hours, if it is a good fit for them. Those who have not spent time working volunteering and are surprised what being a doctor entails are pretty miserable people. What do they do now? Drop out and still have student loans? Change careers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ditto. My freshman is so interested in medicine but I keep discouraging it....

Don’t do that. Why would you discourage? Just make sure he understands what he is getting into but if he really wants to, why not? My kid is in med school and just loves it.

Because there are thousands of less painful ways to earn and living and make a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids who go to medical school and finish first two years and then start doing rotations along with long hours ahead of them in residency and know what to expect, will be happy to do those long hours, if it is a good fit for them. Those who have not spent time working volunteering and are surprised what being a doctor entails are pretty miserable people. What do they do now? Drop out and still have student loans? Change careers?

For many of them, residency is their first real job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ditto. My freshman is so interested in medicine but I keep discouraging it....

Don’t do that. Why would you discourage? Just make sure he understands what he is getting into but if he really wants to, why not? My kid is in med school and just loves it.

Because there are thousands of less painful ways to earn and living and make a difference.

If you say so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to say the admission is really really hard...

Yes, everyone I knew who went into medicine 20 years ago was normal, went to parties, dated, socialized and had good solid grades and some volunteering experience. Now, these types of mere mortals can’t get in. You have to be a genius gunner uber nerd who spends every second of your life from age 5 on building your medical school application.

Everyone I know 20 years ago went to med school for the money. The med students I know now have a more authentic interest.

And they begin ECs in college, not age 5. Or high school. 🙄

You are so naive. They do start building their applications in high school, joining HOSA, taking college level classes and AP science prereqs, and even getting scientific research experience and publications (usually the students who do this are very connected).

Absolutely not naïve. I am the PP with a DS in medical school and have heard the stories of dozens of his friends in school and over several years. Did he (and they) take APs through high school and do medical ECs in college? Of course. But that is not a cagey gunner thing. They had no high school research or “connections”.

[Anonymous]

My niece is waiting to hear from Med Schools now. She opted to work in a hospital in a fellowship program in NY (went to NYU) for 2 years after college before applying. She has applied to over 20 schools (does not think she will get into NYU Med-very competitive especially after going tuition free) and still feels like it’s not enough. But she is very excited to go, so if you are into Med School it is worth it. We need doctors!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids who go to medical school and finish first two years and then start doing rotations along with long hours ahead of them in residency and know what to expect, will be happy to do those long hours, if it is a good fit for them. Those who have not spent time working volunteering and are surprised what being a doctor entails are pretty miserable people. What do they do now? Drop out and still have student loans? Change careers?

+ 1 Those clinical volunteer hours weed people out of a career mistake (like how orgo 2 can weed out academically). If you love orgo 2 but but hate volunteering, hate EMTing or scribing etc. then maybe biomedical engineering or another field is better!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My niece is waiting to hear from Med Schools now. She opted to work in a hospital in a fellowship program in NY (went to NYU) for 2 years after college before applying. She has applied to over 20 schools (does not think she will get into NYU Med-very competitive especially after going tuition free) and still feels like it’s not enough. But she is very excited to go, so if you are into Med School it is worth it. We need doctors!

GL to her! Sounds like she set her self up well and she will get in. Med school is for marathon runners. Sprinters should go into VC or sales!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My niece is waiting to hear from Med Schools now. She opted to work in a hospital in a fellowship program in NY (went to NYU) for 2 years after college before applying. She has applied to over 20 schools (does not think she will get into NYU Med-very competitive especially after going tuition free) and still feels like it’s not enough. But she is very excited to go, so if you are into Med School it is worth it. We need doctors!

GL to her! Sounds like she set her self up well and she will get in. Med school is for marathon runners. Sprinters should go into VC or sales!

I meant distance runners. Marathon is excessive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My niece is waiting to hear from Med Schools now. She opted to work in a hospital in a fellowship program in NY (went to NYU) for 2 years after college before applying. She has applied to over 20 schools (does not think she will get into NYU Med-very competitive especially after going tuition free) and still feels like it’s not enough. But she is very excited to go, so if you are into Med School it is worth it. We need doctors!

We do need more doctors. Too bad Congress, the AAMC and medical schools don’t understand this and are creating bottlenecks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My niece is waiting to hear from Med Schools now. She opted to work in a hospital in a fellowship program in NY (went to NYU) for 2 years after college before applying. She has applied to over 20 schools (does not think she will get into NYU Med-very competitive especially after going tuition free) and still feels like it’s not enough. But she is very excited to go, so if you are into Med School it is worth it. We need doctors!

We do need more doctors. Too bad Congress, the AAMC and medical schools don’t understand this and are creating bottlenecks.

It’s a distribution problem more than a supply problem. Rural states, and rural areas of states are always working on the distribution and recruitment aspect. This is why Carilion is a big advance for VIrginia, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My niece is waiting to hear from Med Schools now. She opted to work in a hospital in a fellowship program in NY (went to NYU) for 2 years after college before applying. She has applied to over 20 schools (does not think she will get into NYU Med-very competitive especially after going tuition free) and still feels like it’s not enough. But she is very excited to go, so if you are into Med School it is worth it. We need doctors!

We do need more doctors. Too bad Congress, the AAMC and medical schools don’t understand this and are creating bottlenecks.

It’s a distribution problem more than a supply problem. Rural states, and rural areas of states are always working on the distribution and recruitment aspect. This is why Carilion is a big advance for VIrginia, for example.

That’s the company line of the profession, but soon there will be shortages everywhere.