Fundraiser for Binders for Trans Youth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this type of fundraising is actually going through the official MCPS financial fundraising process (it’s pretty onerous to set up), in which case MCPS has little to say about it. Students have free speech on campus and are allowed to form clubs to advocate for all sorts of issues, including sharing information about donating to a cause. Having a sponsor doesn’t mean MCPS endorses the club, it means a teacher agreed to be the adult present (for safety purposes) in the room when the club meets.

Besides, parents are foolish to think that a student who wishes to bind isn’t already doing that. Purchasing proper binders is actually more like to reduce a health risk for these students. It sounds like the club identified an actual need in their school and is solving it. Good for them.

Yes, sponsoring a club doesn’t mean you support the issue.
Yes, proper binders don’t cause the health issues DIY ones do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this type of fundraising is actually going through the official MCPS financial fundraising process (it’s pretty onerous to set up), in which case MCPS has little to say about it. Students have free speech on campus and are allowed to form clubs to advocate for all sorts of issues, including sharing information about donating to a cause. Having a sponsor doesn’t mean MCPS endorses the club, it means a teacher agreed to be the adult present (for safety purposes) in the room when the club meets.

Besides, parents are foolish to think that a student who wishes to bind isn’t already doing that. Purchasing proper binders is actually more like to reduce a health risk for these students. It sounds like the club identified an actual need in their school and is solving it. Good for them.

There should be a requirement if money is collected on MCPS property that there is accountability.

There is. The principal would have to approve this.

[Anonymous]

Kids are allowed to organize whatever they want--not necessarily under the auspices of the school, but if you think these kids are going to stop taking care of themselves and their friends because the school doesn't approve of it...well, you have a different experience of teenagers than I do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does this affect you Op? Who cares. I’m not trans, but I had giant boobs from the time I was 12 and I had to wear supper right shirts under another shirt as a “binder”. It doesn’t affect you. Butt out.

Stop. You're trying to be fair, i get it. But you know, and we all know, that this is for females who identify as non-binary or want to transition - not for giant boobed girls. It probably does not affect OP, and yes bringing it up is a tad transphobic, but I also would also want to be aware of a fundraiser or club like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does this affect you Op? Who cares. I’m not trans, but I had giant boobs from the time I was 12 and I had to wear supper right shirts under another shirt as a “binder”. It doesn’t affect you. Butt out.

Stop. You're trying to be fair, i get it. But you know, and we all know, that this is for females who identify as non-binary or want to transition - not for giant boobed girls. It probably does not affect OP, and yes bringing it up is a tad transphobic, but I also would also want to be aware of a fundraiser or club like this.

Are you aware of every fundraiser or club in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does this affect you Op? Who cares. I’m not trans, but I had giant boobs from the time I was 12 and I had to wear supper right shirts under another shirt as a “binder”. It doesn’t affect you. Butt out.

Stop. You're trying to be fair, i get it. But you know, and we all know, that this is for females who identify as non-binary or want to transition - not for giant boobed girls. It probably does not affect OP, and yes bringing it up is a tad transphobic, but I also would also want to be aware of a fundraiser or club like this.

Why, specifically, would you want to be aware of a fundraiser or club like this? What would you do with this information?

[Anonymous]

I would do nothing. But there is no harm in being aware of this, or any other fundraiser.

[Anonymous]

Conversion therapy booth should be offered

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conversion therapy booth should be offered

That’s actually a not an bad example. I would also want to know if the Conversion Therapy Club was in my kids high school.

[Anonymous]

NP person. My kid has asked for a binder and I will not get them one because of health concerns (and yes, those concerns do exist, even when done properly.) I would be irritated if some group at school gifted them a binder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP person. My kid has asked for a binder and I will not get them one because of health concerns (and yes, those concerns do exist, even when done properly.) I would be irritated if some group at school gifted them a binder.

Hang on, let me go get my long list of things various people or groups have done at my children's schools that have irritated me. How dare they have done such things that irritated me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP person. My kid has asked for a binder and I will not get them one because of health concerns (and yes, those concerns do exist, even when done properly.) I would be irritated if some group at school gifted them a binder.

Hang on, let me go get my long list of things various people or groups have done at my children's schools that have irritated me. How dare they have done such things that irritated me!

I'm puzzled by your comment. Because the school system does other things that irritate me, I am not allowed to mention this thing that irritates me?

[Anonymous]

If this isn’t a troll post, then I suspect a Tracey Flick type striver is doing this precisely so they can write about it in their college application essay.

Op: why not name the school and club? This is an anonymous forum that mcps teachers and admin follow. Easy way to put the info out there without being labeled.

I still think this is a troll post.

[Anonymous]

Troll post? that didn't even occur to me. Seems perfectly reasonable this would happen in a MCPS public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I don't want to start a sh*tshow, but I just learned that my child's school has a club, which had a table set up at its club fair during the school day, so presumably administration and a faculty member served as a sponsor for it. This club's purpose is to raise funds for students who wish to buy binders (i.e. undergarments that flatten the appearance of chests). This is a high school so some ninth grade students are still growing, in puberty etc. (13-14 year old girls). There was a google form for any student to request a binder and the club would provide one. I'm sure there are students who can't have these things mailed to their homes or lack the funds to buy them. But in terms of medical supervision, mental health support etc., should this be a student-run school club? It just seems crazy to me that kids are doing this for other kids without parents and medical supervision but ostensibly with consent of MCPS (although I am fairly sure they have no idea this is happening).

I don't want this to devolve into a conversation about being transphobic. I am not suggesting kids who want/need these binders should not have access to them. I am suggesting some adult in their life may want to know they are doing this before causing potentially irreparable damage or injury to themselves.

Is this worth bringing up to someone at the school or are kids just allowed to organize whatever they want? I think as a parent if my child did not want me to know and was obtaining a binder through school without my knowledge but with the knowledge of the school I'd be livid. Or does this fall into the bucket of things kids can do at school that they don't need parental involvement for (such as advocating for a different name to be used, changing their gender from the one assigned at birth, etc.)

MYOB

And we see exactly who you are. I feel bad for your kids to have such an ignorant parent. Grow up and stay out of other people's business.