elite colleges with no supplemental essays?

Anonymous
My daughter applied to 14 colleges last year and 7 of them did not have supplementals.

https://blog.collegevine.com/which-top-colleges-dont-require-a-supplemental-essay/
Anonymous
In all honesty, if your kid isn’t willing to write a 250-500 word supplemental essay, they are going to hate any elite or private university. My kids are both at small top 20s and have written their asses off. My freshman has already written four 5-7 page papers for two of her classes, and several smaller writing assignments. Her other two classes are comp sci and calculus, so luckily no paper writing in those. My senior has written papers for most of her classes as an Econ major outside of math and programming classes, and will spend her last semester writing a thesis.
Large public universities with large lecture classes rarely require writing unless the student is in a writing based major. The professors just can’t read and grade hundreds of papers. Large universities love multiple choice scantron tests.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, if your kid isn’t willing to write a 250-500 word supplemental essay, they are going to hate any elite or private university. My kids are both at small top 20s and have written their asses off. My freshman has already written four 5-7 page papers for two of her classes, and several smaller writing assignments. Her other two classes are comp sci and calculus, so luckily no paper writing in those. My senior has written papers for most of her classes as an Econ major outside of math and programming classes, and will spend her last semester writing a thesis.
Large public universities with large lecture classes rarely require writing unless the student is in a writing based major. The professors just can’t read and grade hundreds of papers. Large universities love multiple choice scantron tests.



Writing based majors are usually less valueable and close to useless sometimes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, if your kid isn’t willing to write a 250-500 word supplemental essay, they are going to hate any elite or private university. My kids are both at small top 20s and have written their asses off. My freshman has already written four 5-7 page papers for two of her classes, and several smaller writing assignments. Her other two classes are comp sci and calculus, so luckily no paper writing in those. My senior has written papers for most of her classes as an Econ major outside of math and programming classes, and will spend her last semester writing a thesis.
Large public universities with large lecture classes rarely require writing unless the student is in a writing based major. The professors just can’t read and grade hundreds of papers. Large universities love multiple choice scantron tests.



Writing based majors are usually less valueable and close to useless sometimes.


Writing-based majors are usually less valueable [sic] and close to useless sometimes.
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, if your kid isn’t willing to write a 250-500 word supplemental essay, they are going to hate any elite or private university. My kids are both at small top 20s and have written their asses off. My freshman has already written four 5-7 page papers for two of her classes, and several smaller writing assignments. Her other two classes are comp sci and calculus, so luckily no paper writing in those. My senior has written papers for most of her classes as an Econ major outside of math and programming classes, and will spend her last semester writing a thesis.
Large public universities with large lecture classes rarely require writing unless the student is in a writing based major. The professors just can’t read and grade hundreds of papers. Large universities love multiple choice scantron tests.



Writing based majors are usually less valueable and close to useless sometimes.


Pp here. My kids are majoring in Econ (senior) and Computer Science (freshman), neither one is a writing based major, but writing well is essential in any valuable career, and universities that don’t have students write because they don’t have time to grade it are doing them a disservice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, if your kid isn’t willing to write a 250-500 word supplemental essay, they are going to hate any elite or private university. My kids are both at small top 20s and have written their asses off. My freshman has already written four 5-7 page papers for two of her classes, and several smaller writing assignments. Her other two classes are comp sci and calculus, so luckily no paper writing in those. My senior has written papers for most of her classes as an Econ major outside of math and programming classes, and will spend her last semester writing a thesis.
Large public universities with large lecture classes rarely require writing unless the student is in a writing based major. The professors just can’t read and grade hundreds of papers. Large universities love multiple choice scantron tests.



Writing based majors are usually less valueable and close to useless sometimes.


I majored in English and make $1 million plus a year. Not sure how you think my major was close to useless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, if your kid isn’t willing to write a 250-500 word supplemental essay, they are going to hate any elite or private university. My kids are both at small top 20s and have written their asses off. My freshman has already written four 5-7 page papers for two of her classes, and several smaller writing assignments. Her other two classes are comp sci and calculus, so luckily no paper writing in those. My senior has written papers for most of her classes as an Econ major outside of math and programming classes, and will spend her last semester writing a thesis.
Large public universities with large lecture classes rarely require writing unless the student is in a writing based major. The professors just can’t read and grade hundreds of papers. Large universities love multiple choice scantron tests.



Writing based majors are usually less valueable and close to useless sometimes.


I majored in English and make $1 million plus a year. Not sure how you think my major was close to useless.


The average partner at my law firm makes $1.8 million per year. Almost all of them majored in "writing based" majors.
Anonymous
The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?

Amherst, Williams, and I believe Swarthmore have no additional essays, if any of those fit your definition of elite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?

Amherst, Williams, and I believe Swarthmore have no additional essays, if any of those fit your definition of elite.


Towson and UMD do not have essays -- only a few brief questions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?

Amherst, Williams, and I believe Swarthmore have no additional essays, if any of those fit your definition of elite.


Williams does have a 300-word question about interacting with different types of people. It also allows students to submit a graded paper.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?

Amherst, Williams, and I believe Swarthmore have no additional essays, if any of those fit your definition of elite.


Williams does have a 300-word question about interacting with different types of people. It also allows students to submit a graded paper.

The Williams one must be new this year then. Too bad, because I thought it and Amherst’s no extra essays, no interviews take on things was equity-based — and now there is another essay to curate and game, ironically with an equity-diversity topic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?

Amherst, Williams, and I believe Swarthmore have no additional essays, if any of those fit your definition of elite.


Williams does have a 300-word question about interacting with different types of people. It also allows students to submit a graded paper.

The Williams one must be new this year then. Too bad, because I thought it and Amherst’s no extra essays, no interviews take on things was equity-based — and now there is another essay to curate and game, ironically with an equity-diversity topic

.


The Williams option to submit a graded paper is the opposite of promoting equity.
Anonymous
You can google this for a list (guess how I know) haha
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The question was about elite schools. In what world are Pitt, W&M, Clemson, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and Oberlin "elite"?


There are close to 3000 4 year colleges/universities.
If a school is ranked 30s 40s 50s, sounds like elite.
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