October open - is the 13 plus session always so long?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Good luck finding another pool to host.

I wish they would cap swimmers. There were many clubs letting swimmers swim in the open and other meets this month. That should not be allowed either. Unless you are a hosting team. It was way too many swimmers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Good luck finding another pool to host.

I wish they would cap swimmers. There were many clubs letting swimmers swim in the open and other meets this month. That should not be allowed either. Unless you are a hosting team. It was way too many swimmers.

That is poor form. Generally it is one meet a month and you are overloading the system if you are swimming in the open and the other meets. Open should be for those swimmers that were not able to get into a smaller meet that month. Since the opens are for those swimmers/clubs that were not invited to another meet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Good luck finding another pool to host.

I wish they would cap swimmers. There were many clubs letting swimmers swim in the open and other meets this month. That should not be allowed either. Unless you are a hosting team. It was way too many swimmers.

That is poor form. Generally it is one meet a month and you are overloading the system if you are swimming in the open and the other meets. Open should be for those swimmers that were not able to get into a smaller meet that month. Since the opens are for those swimmers/clubs that were not invited to another meet.

Clubs will do it with their 13&U performance groups - they will try and get those swimmers into as many meets as possible. They would be better off offering meets with entry times for those kids and keep it smaller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

there are 4 sites for the november open. Fairland, Providence, PWCS aquatic center, and dulles south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

there are 4 sites for the november open. Fairland, Providence, PWCS aquatic center, and dulles south.

Thank you. That's great news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

It couldn’t have been as bad as the Alexandria meet. There were more entries there. The 13 and over kids finished close to 1:50 on Saturday. Even if you were an hour behind like we were, you still would have ended at least an hour earlier. It was horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

It couldn’t have been as bad as the Alexandria meet. There were more entries there. The 13 and over kids finished close to 1:50 on Saturday. Even if you were an hour behind like we were, you still would have ended at least an hour earlier. It was horrible.

Did this push back the next age group? I was thrilled that we were not in the Open this month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Good luck finding another pool to host.

I wish they would cap swimmers. There were many clubs letting swimmers swim in the open and other meets this month. That should not be allowed either. Unless you are a hosting team. It was way too many swimmers.

That is poor form. Generally it is one meet a month and you are overloading the system if you are swimming in the open and the other meets. Open should be for those swimmers that were not able to get into a smaller meet that month. Since the opens are for those swimmers/clubs that were not invited to another meet.

Clubs will do it with their 13&U performance groups - they will try and get those swimmers into as many meets as possible. They would be better off offering meets with entry times for those kids and keep it smaller.

I agree it is poor form to take space in multiple meets per month for the same swimmers, but I do not know which clubs do this, if any, for their high level groups. I can tell you RMSC does not. Coaches do not want to spend too much time "resting" for meets or giving up their high yardage weekend practice for a meet. Our higher level groups actually tend to do a meet or two less over the season. January/February for example, if kid has cuts for their target March meet, they don't swim. or they swim a very limited lineup.

It is also not unusual to see ~200 kids in something like 100 free at these big open meets. The RMSC meet had about 145 each for boys and girls in 50 free this weekend and slightly more in 100 free. There was probably some lag this weekend just because it's October and there are new people swimming and running the meet. And it's the first normal October open in years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

It couldn’t have been as bad as the Alexandria meet. There were more entries there. The 13 and over kids finished close to 1:50 on Saturday. Even if you were an hour behind like we were, you still would have ended at least an hour earlier. It was horrible.

There were multiple medical events on Saturday that slowed the first session way down (including requiring an ambulance). Sunday ran way smoother. I agree that the pool is terrible, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

It couldn’t have been as bad as the Alexandria meet. There were more entries there. The 13 and over kids finished close to 1:50 on Saturday. Even if you were an hour behind like we were, you still would have ended at least an hour earlier. It was horrible.

There were multiple medical events on Saturday that slowed the first session way down (including requiring an ambulance). Sunday ran way smoother. I agree that the pool is terrible, though.

Multiple medical events? That’s awful. Is everyone okay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

It couldn’t have been as bad as the Alexandria meet. There were more entries there. The 13 and over kids finished close to 1:50 on Saturday. Even if you were an hour behind like we were, you still would have ended at least an hour earlier. It was horrible.

There were multiple medical events on Saturday that slowed the first session way down (including requiring an ambulance). Sunday ran way smoother. I agree that the pool is terrible, though.

Multiple medical events? That’s awful. Is everyone okay?

Really? Oh no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Good luck finding another pool to host.

I wish they would cap swimmers. There were many clubs letting swimmers swim in the open and other meets this month. That should not be allowed either. Unless you are a hosting team. It was way too many swimmers.

That is poor form. Generally it is one meet a month and you are overloading the system if you are swimming in the open and the other meets. Open should be for those swimmers that were not able to get into a smaller meet that month. Since the opens are for those swimmers/clubs that were not invited to another meet.

Clubs will do it with their 13&U performance groups - they will try and get those swimmers into as many meets as possible. They would be better off offering meets with entry times for those kids and keep it smaller.

I agree it is poor form to take space in multiple meets per month for the same swimmers, but I do not know which clubs do this, if any, for their high level groups. I can tell you RMSC does not. Coaches do not want to spend too much time "resting" for meets or giving up their high yardage weekend practice for a meet. Our higher level groups actually tend to do a meet or two less over the season. January/February for example, if kid has cuts for their target March meet, they don't swim. or they swim a very limited lineup.

It is also not unusual to see ~200 kids in something like 100 free at these big open meets. The RMSC meet had about 145 each for boys and girls in 50 free this weekend and slightly more in 100 free. There was probably some lag this weekend just because it's October and there are new people swimming and running the meet. And it's the first normal October open in years.

I think RMSC is run better than most clubs. I know that there were several clubs that had their higher groups in multiple meets. Just a quick run of the results show the same Marlins, AAC, NCAP, and MAKO swimmers were in the Mako and Open. I guess since the Mako ran the meet it is okay. But kind of crappy for these other clubs to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably should have moved some of the swimmers from Alexandria to Fairland to even the numbers out. But clubs also hate being moved last minute. So there is that.

Other option is to cap entries. But the answer can’t be that clubs don’t like to be moved so those in this one location will be miserable.

Fairland was miserable as well. They need to open up a fourth pool for the November Open.

Fairland was miserable.

It couldn’t have been as bad as the Alexandria meet. There were more entries there. The 13 and over kids finished close to 1:50 on Saturday. Even if you were an hour behind like we were, you still would have ended at least an hour earlier. It was horrible.

There were multiple medical events on Saturday that slowed the first session way down (including requiring an ambulance). Sunday ran way smoother. I agree that the pool is terrible, though.

Multiple medical events? That’s awful. Is everyone okay?

That happened at the October open last year. Kids swim events that they are not ready to do - but they swam them last Spring. I have seen kids fall down stairs because they were slippery and need EMTs.