Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
What's matters is what I can ask for to verify corrections. Right now, we have asked to (a ) be at inspections and (b) have a walkthrough to verify corrections. They have rejected both of those options. I thought of visiting the house after corrections so I can verify, but it sounds like photos are a better option.
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.[/quote
I think the builder's name has home in it like Tyan home but she used X.
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
What's matters is what I can ask for to verify corrections. Right now, we have asked to (a ) be at inspections and (b) have a walkthrough to verify corrections. They have rejected both of those options. I thought of visiting the house after corrections so I can verify, but it sounds like photos are a better option.
Yes, photos don't go yourself to verify. You don't know what you're doing.
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
What's matters is what I can ask for to verify corrections. Right now, we have asked to (a ) be at inspections and (b) have a walkthrough to verify corrections. They have rejected both of those options. I thought of visiting the house after corrections so I can verify, but it sounds like photos are a better option.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
What's matters is what I can ask for to verify corrections. Right now, we have asked to (a ) be at inspections and (b) have a walkthrough to verify corrections. They have rejected both of those options. I thought of visiting the house after corrections so I can verify, but it sounds like photos are a better option.
The builder previously said no to a walkthrough by you or your husband and yes to an independent inspection. Why would that have changed? And, at any rate, how are you qualified to evaluate whether repairs are adequate to address a code violation? What you need in this thread is the same thing as you needed in the last thread—oversight by an independent inspector.
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
What's matters is what I can ask for to verify corrections. Right now, we have asked to (a ) be at inspections and (b) have a walkthrough to verify corrections. They have rejected both of those options. I thought of visiting the house after corrections so I can verify, but it sounds like photos are a better option.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.
As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?
This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.
Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.
I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.
But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.
Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.
You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.
I have asked for a walkthrough, and they said no. My husband wants to be there, so I also asked for that. I do need a way to verify if corrections are required, and all they are offering is a written report. It sounds like our best bet would be photos.
I give up. Your story keeps changing about what you want, what you’ve asked for, and what the builders have said. If you aren’t communicating effectively here, I guarantee you aren’t helping yourself with the builders.
What's matters is what I can ask for to verify corrections. Right now, we have asked to (a ) be at inspections and (b) have a walkthrough to verify corrections. They have rejected both of those options. I thought of visiting the house after corrections so I can verify, but it sounds like photos are a better option.
The builder previously said no to a walkthrough by you or your husband and yes to an independent inspection. Why would that have changed? And, at any rate, how are you qualified to evaluate whether repairs are adequate to address a code violation? What you need in this thread is the same thing as you needed in the last thread—oversight by an independent inspector.
They said no when we read the addendum, but it wasn't until tonight that we received communication from up the ladder. My husband is insistent on being there. They aren't going to agree to bring an inspector back to verify changes; I know that much. If they decide to send photo corrections, I could ask the inspecting company to look over them.
Anonymous wrote:They are only offering a written report? RED FLAG
Who knows what they are offering because the neurotic OP seems to be asking for ridiculous things, like going herself to check building code.
Op here. That was mean. I am trying my best to figure out something. If photos are usually the norm, that sounds reasonable. They haven't indicated their report will have photos. Thru could also block access after the inspection.
Anonymous wrote:They are only offering a written report? RED FLAG
Who knows what they are offering because the neurotic OP seems to be asking for ridiculous things, like going herself to check building code.
Op here. That was mean. I am trying my best to figure out something. If photos are usually the norm, that sounds reasonable. They haven't indicated their report will have photos. Thru could also block access after the inspection.
The norm, at least among savvy buyers, is reserving the right to inspect at various stages of construction. You didn't do that. This is a next-best option, and under the circumstances you're lucky to be getting it.
A written explanation of what will be repaired, replaced, corrected and items not addressed will be provided to Lara. She, will, in turn provide this information to you.
Anonymous wrote:This is what we have been offered:
A written explanation of what will be repaired, replaced, corrected and items not addressed will be provided to Lara. She, will, in turn provide this information to you.
So insist that they include a photo of each corrected item in the written report. Done.
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