What typical after a pre-dry wall inspection to prove changes were made ...

[Anonymous]

I know with resale you can request receipts, but ours in a new build. I posted about doing a new build townhouse pre-drywall inspection just a few days ago and got great advice. We have approval; however, we are not allowed there during the inspection. The builder has said they will fix code violations. We are concerned about how we will know they resolved the issues since drywall will go up, and we are also unfamiliar with construction. The only option they give us is a written report of repairs should anything need to be repaired. They will not include photos or take us on a pre-drywall walkthrough. I am unsure if I should push back and request photos or wait to see what the inspection uncovers. This is very time sensitive since drywall will be put up shortly after. My husband is very upset about this and has said he may back out. Hopefully the inspection will be clean.. this is all worst case...

[Anonymous]

You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.

We are allowed to take photos. We have been allowed to visit, but I want to mention we want to visit again after the inspection and before the drywall goes up. If they do have repairs, we want to have access to see what changes have been made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.

We are allowed to take photos. We have been allowed to visit, but I want to mention we want to visit again after the inspection and before the drywall goes up. If they do have repairs, we want to have access to see what changes have been made.

Then, you visit again. I'd bring in someone else or take really detailed pictures and show them to a home inspector. They should not be failing inspections with multiple violations. You need to ask them if you can visit again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.

We are allowed to take photos. We have been allowed to visit, but I want to mention we want to visit again after the inspection and before the drywall goes up. If they do have repairs, we want to have access to see what changes have been made.

Then, you visit again. I'd bring in someone else or take really detailed pictures and show them to a home inspector. They should not be failing inspections with multiple violations. You need to ask them if you can visit again.

OP here. Yes. This. We usually go on Sundays, but between Thursday, when the inspection takes place, and Sunday, I don't know if they will get to fixing stuff should the inspection uncover anything to fix.

[Anonymous]

Op again. I am in touch with the VP of the builder. It's frustrating I am doing all this instead of our realtor. It makes me very nervous.

I am thinking of writing back this....

Hi Larla,

After the pre-drywall inspection and before the drywall goes in, we want to visit our lot, i.e., #92. In addition, if x homes indicate repairs are made due to our third-party inspection report, we would also like to visit after the repairs have been completed and before the drywall begins. What we don't want to happen is being blocked from visiting after the inspection and before the drywall goes in. Sunday afternoons are typically when we are free and visit, but we can be flexible and work with you.

[Anonymous]

Yeah any builder who says you can’t go to the predrywall inspection is not to be trusted. Period. That’s basically the last time you’ll get to see all the exposures of the skeleton of the house. Builders usually WANT you to be there and even recommend you bringing a third party inspector. The fact that they don’t even want you there is a huge red flag. Find anyway possible to get out of it. Otherwise, you’ll regret it in a few years when the warranty runs out and you’ll have a ton of major issues.

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

[Anonymous]

To the PPs saying OP should bolt because the builder is resisting their pre-drywall inspection, keep in mind that the agreement didn't provide for *any* pre-drywall inspection. OP went back to the builder and effectively asked for another contingency. Many builders would flat-out refuse. The situation isn't ideal, but getting an independent pre-drywall inspection for code violations is a good enough outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah any builder who says you can’t go to the predrywall inspection is not to be trusted. Period. That’s basically the last time you’ll get to see all the exposures of the skeleton of the house. Builders usually WANT you to be there and even recommend you bringing a third party inspector. The fact that they don’t even want you there is a huge red flag. Find anyway possible to get out of it. Otherwise, you’ll regret it in a few years when the warranty runs out and you’ll have a ton of major issues.

The warranty runs out in 1 year. This is op.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.

But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.

[Anonymous]

Call the regular inspector. Ask what they found.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.

But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.

Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.

But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.

Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.

You don't need the buyer or seller to be there. You need an inspector at the house. This was the whole point of the last thread. Again, you're really not communicating effectively.