LCPS School Rezoning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

when it comes to Tuscarora or most schools in Leesburg it is about racism.

[Anonymous]

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River Creek parents will lose their mind if they pay those house prices , taxes and HOA fees for their kids to get sent to Tuscarora.

Let's talk about that attitude which is really fueled by racism and entitlement. Tuscarora has too many black kids for the parents in Landsdowne/Riverside. That's really what you are referring to. Rock Ridge was supposed to be built before Riverside because of the crazy crowding at the high schools in that part of Ashburn but one of the school board reps made sure her Landsdowne constitutents were taken care of before everyone else. Why does everyone who is not black avoid Tuscarora?

The amount of money you pay for your house should not have any determination as to where you go to school in a public school system.

You have it backwards. People pay more money for a house based on the school they will be attending. Look at listings in Herndon. Based off the prices, you can tell the ratings of the zoned school.

[Anonymous]

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River Creek parents will lose their mind if they pay those house prices , taxes and HOA fees for their kids to get sent to Tuscarora.

Let's talk about that attitude which is really fueled by racism and entitlement. Tuscarora has too many black kids for the parents in Landsdowne/Riverside. That's really what you are referring to. Rock Ridge was supposed to be built before Riverside because of the crazy crowding at the high schools in that part of Ashburn but one of the school board reps made sure her Landsdowne constitutents were taken care of before everyone else. Why does everyone who is not black avoid Tuscarora?

The amount of money you pay for your house should not have any determination as to where you go to school in a public school system.

You have it backwards. People pay more money for a house based on the school they will be attending. Look at listings in Herndon. Based off the prices, you can tell the ratings of the zoned school.

Beacon Hill is one of the most expensive neighborhoods in Leesburg (with custom estate homes on multiple acres that sell for much more than the houses in Lansdowne and River Creek), and it's zoned for Tuscarora/Smarts Mill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

Sometimes it is but other times it actually is racism. Sorry, if you didn’t see and hear the reasons Brambleton parents advocated moving their white kids out of rock ridge you might not understand but it is very racially motivated many times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Basically they need to rebalance Tuscarora and Loudoun County. Some kids zoned for Heritage live in neighborhoods close to Riverside and could probably go there to alleviate Heritage crowding. Why independence isn’t on that list when it’s over capacity 3 years in while Rock Ridge sits half empty (literally- 1200 kids enrolled) is insane. Some new developments being built in Sterling may go to Park View.

I think Riverside is close to capacity. The kids you might be thinking of who currently attend Heritage (River Creek neighborhood?) I believe might get rezoned to Tuscarora under the current plan.

Another related issue is that Heritage was selected to be one of the two schools in Loudoun for the IB program starting soon... the expectation is that this will drive up the number of special permission requests to attend Heritage by a lot, pushing it way to capacity. (The other site is Loudoun Valley HS in Purcellville.) So that's not helping with the crowding issues in central Loudoun.

River Creek parents will lose their mind if they pay those house prices , taxes and HOA fees for their kids to get sent to Tuscarora.

Let's talk about that attitude which is really fueled by racism and entitlement. Tuscarora has too many black kids for the parents in Landsdowne/Riverside. That's really what you are referring to. Rock Ridge was supposed to be built before Riverside because of the crazy crowding at the high schools in that part of Ashburn but one of the school board reps made sure her Landsdowne constitutents were taken care of before everyone else. Why does everyone who is not black avoid Tuscarora?

The amount of money you pay for your house should not have any determination as to where you go to school in a public school system.

Tuscarora is one where I have never heard people want to avoid it due to the population of Black students, which isn’t even that high as I believe no school in Loudoun has more than 12-13% of Blaxk students making up the student body. The main issue with Tuscarora is the principal, which has created issues with students, families, and staff, all 3 groups consistently citing the principal and her management of the school as their main reason to avoid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

Sometimes it is but other times it actually is racism. Sorry, if you didn’t see and hear the reasons Brambleton parents advocated moving their white kids out of rock ridge you might not understand but it is very racially motivated many times.

Can you explain? We are moving into a home that is zoned for Rock Ridge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
River Creek parents will lose their mind if they pay those house prices , taxes and HOA fees for their kids to get sent to Tuscarora.

Let's talk about that attitude which is really fueled by racism and entitlement. Tuscarora has too many black kids for the parents in Landsdowne/Riverside. That's really what you are referring to. Rock Ridge was supposed to be built before Riverside because of the crazy crowding at the high schools in that part of Ashburn but one of the school board reps made sure her Landsdowne constitutents were taken care of before everyone else. Why does everyone who is not black avoid Tuscarora?

The amount of money you pay for your house should not have any determination as to where you go to school in a public school system.

You have it backwards. People pay more money for a house based on the school they will be attending. Look at listings in Herndon. Based off the prices, you can tell the ratings of the zoned school.

Beacon Hill is one of the most expensive neighborhoods in Leesburg (with custom estate homes on multiple acres that sell for much more than the houses in Lansdowne and River Creek), and it's zoned for Tuscarora/Smarts Mill.

Most of the kids in Beacon Hill attend privates. Waterford/Paeonian Springs/Purcellville/Middleburg are best places as far as school zoning/quality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Basically they need to rebalance Tuscarora and Loudoun County. Some kids zoned for Heritage live in neighborhoods close to Riverside and could probably go there to alleviate Heritage crowding. Why independence isn’t on that list when it’s over capacity 3 years in while Rock Ridge sits half empty (literally- 1200 kids enrolled) is insane. Some new developments being built in Sterling may go to Park View.

I think Riverside is close to capacity. The kids you might be thinking of who currently attend Heritage (River Creek neighborhood?) I believe might get rezoned to Tuscarora under the current plan.

Another related issue is that Heritage was selected to be one of the two schools in Loudoun for the IB program starting soon... the expectation is that this will drive up the number of special permission requests to attend Heritage by a lot, pushing it way to capacity. (The other site is Loudoun Valley HS in Purcellville.) So that's not helping with the crowding issues in central Loudoun.

River Creek parents will lose their mind if they pay those house prices , taxes and HOA fees for their kids to get sent to Tuscarora.

Let's talk about that attitude which is really fueled by racism and entitlement. Tuscarora has too many black kids for the parents in Landsdowne/Riverside. That's really what you are referring to. Rock Ridge was supposed to be built before Riverside because of the crazy crowding at the high schools in that part of Ashburn but one of the school board reps made sure her Landsdowne constitutents were taken care of before everyone else. Why does everyone who is not black avoid Tuscarora?

The amount of money you pay for your house should not have any determination as to where you go to school in a public school system.

Tuscarora is one where I have never heard people want to avoid it due to the population of Black students, which isn’t even that high as I believe no school in Loudoun has more than 12-13% of Blaxk students making up the student body. The main issue with Tuscarora is the principal, which has created issues with students, families, and staff, all 3 groups consistently citing the principal and her management of the school as their main reason to avoid

There are plenty of white kids attending Tuscarora. In my opinion the actual location of the school is a pain to get to, it's right off 15 with tons of traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

Sometimes it is but other times it actually is racism. Sorry, if you didn’t see and hear the reasons Brambleton parents advocated moving their white kids out of rock ridge you might not understand but it is very racially motivated many times.

Can you explain? We are moving into a home that is zoned for Rock Ridge.

A lot of the white brambleton parents lobbied very hard for their kids to go to independence because they claimed that at Rock Ridge, which has a high population of Asian (specifically South Indian) students, their kids couldn’t be academically competitive. They also cited Rock Ridge not having good sports teams so they needed their kids to go to Indy to have a better experience with school sports. They claimed that white students are ostracized by the Indian students and the Indian students only socialize with other Indian students. Anyway, when Indy opened, Rock Ridge lost about 1200 students who had previously been going there. The boundaries were redrawn - now, 3 years later, independence is overcrowded. Rock Ridge has 1200 students enrolled and numbers aren’t projected to change for the next 5 years because only a few neighborhoods along Loudoun County Parkway are now zoned for Rock Ridge. Only 1 elementary and middle feed to RR. The school itself opened in 2013- it’s only 9 years old and is not being utilized to its full capacity because of how Brambleton parents wanted the boundaries for Independence drawn.

[Anonymous]

It’s not a secret that Brambleton has a huge Indian population and that they are very into academics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

Sometimes it is but other times it actually is racism. Sorry, if you didn’t see and hear the reasons Brambleton parents advocated moving their white kids out of rock ridge you might not understand but it is very racially motivated many times.

Can you explain? We are moving into a home that is zoned for Rock Ridge.

A lot of the white brambleton parents lobbied very hard for their kids to go to independence because they claimed that at Rock Ridge, which has a high population of Asian (specifically South Indian) students, their kids couldn’t be academically competitive. They also cited Rock Ridge not having good sports teams so they needed their kids to go to Indy to have a better experience with school sports. They claimed that white students are ostracized by the Indian students and the Indian students only socialize with other Indian students. Anyway, when Indy opened, Rock Ridge lost about 1200 students who had previously been going there. The boundaries were redrawn - now, 3 years later, independence is overcrowded. Rock Ridge has 1200 students enrolled and numbers aren’t projected to change for the next 5 years because only a few neighborhoods along Loudoun County Parkway are now zoned for Rock Ridge. Only 1 elementary and middle feed to RR. The school itself opened in 2013- it’s only 9 years old and is not being utilized to its full capacity because of how Brambleton parents wanted the boundaries for Independence drawn.

One thing, Rock Ridge is highly regarded for its theater program, arguably the best in the county. If you have a child at all interested in theater/performing arts, this is a perfect school.

[Anonymous]

Man, if RR is so underutilized, maybe they can let the Park View kids go there while the school is being rebuilt. (No, I don't seriously believe that should happen because of logistics, but how crazy is it to have a lovely new-ish school that's so underused?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

when it comes to Tuscarora or most schools in Leesburg it is about racism.

Yep those racists who don’t want Title 1 schools in their neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lived through my kids going to 3 different elementary schools. When I moved to Ashburn we were told they were building an elementary school within walking distance of my neighborhood. My kids went to 2 different middle schools. The kids in my kids middle school were split and sent to 2 different high schools. It sucks and had I known it would be this bad I never would have moved to Ashburn.

I'm really sorry, PP. I'm so tired of hearing that resistance to school rezoning is solely about racism and entitlement, when most parents just want reasonable outcomes, like not having their families split among different schools, or having kids forced to change schools during high school, or other similar reasonable concerns.

Sometimes it is but other times it actually is racism. Sorry, if you didn’t see and hear the reasons Brambleton parents advocated moving their white kids out of rock ridge you might not understand but it is very racially motivated many times.

Can you explain? We are moving into a home that is zoned for Rock Ridge.

A lot of the white brambleton parents lobbied very hard for their kids to go to independence because they claimed that at Rock Ridge, which has a high population of Asian (specifically South Indian) students, their kids couldn’t be academically competitive. They also cited Rock Ridge not having good sports teams so they needed their kids to go to Indy to have a better experience with school sports. They claimed that white students are ostracized by the Indian students and the Indian students only socialize with other Indian students. Anyway, when Indy opened, Rock Ridge lost about 1200 students who had previously been going there. The boundaries were redrawn - now, 3 years later, independence is overcrowded. Rock Ridge has 1200 students enrolled and numbers aren’t projected to change for the next 5 years because only a few neighborhoods along Loudoun County Parkway are now zoned for Rock Ridge. Only 1 elementary and middle feed to RR. The school itself opened in 2013- it’s only 9 years old and is not being utilized to its full capacity because of how Brambleton parents wanted the boundaries for Independence drawn.

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They left in droves bc of online learning. Many live in multigenerational households so they were very concerned about grandparents getting Covid and online gave them the flexibility to travel abroad to see family, etc. They are still concerned about the ‘vid.