MCPS equity ranking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They just compared average HHI income vs how much is spent per student

Yes, this statistic is meaningless, but what do you expect from a group called Wallet Hub.

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Here’s the raw data chart https://wallethub.com/edu/e/most-least-equitable-school-districts-in-maryland/77088

I can’t even fathom how they are defining the word “equitable” . The methodology says that a county that spend more per pupil than state average is “more equitable”. That sort of makes sense. But then they are saying that the higher a county’s average income is compared to state average the less equitable it is? And the bigger the difference between the two scores, the worse the county is at being equitable? So for a wealthy county to be more equitable, it needs to have a higher per pupil spending in proportion to it’s higher wealth? That’s kind of the opposite of equity.

What I think wallet hub discovered is that a lot of tax money at the state level gets transferred from MoCo and Howard County to fund education in poorer counties. This isn’t a dig at MCPS (as OP seems to think). It’s a dig at the state for how it is inequitably distributing funding back to the counties.

[Anonymous]

"Equity" is blatantly racist.

"Equality" is what MCPS should strive for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

Except in this case, the methodology is pretty meaningless.

[Anonymous]

MCPS lowered their student allocation of instructional funds. The nuggets cuts being in textbooks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

Further, this statistic was for the state of MD not MCPS and from an unproven test which had never been given before that year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS lowered their student allocation of instructional funds. The nuggets cuts being in textbooks.

It isn't 1936 anymore, we don't need to buy textbooks. We have computers! I can't help but wonder if people in the 1500s complained when schools stop using hand written scrolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Equity" is blatantly racist.

"Equality" is what MCPS should strive for.

How are you defining those terms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Equity" is blatantly racist.

"Equality" is what MCPS should strive for.

No. Both are ridiculous.

MCPS should strive for Excellence. For ALL kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

Not sure what you mean.

I have a DD who just finished 8th grade. We got the results this past year for the Algebra MCAP for all the kids who took Algebra in 7th grade. These were not ‘struggling learners’.

The stats were simply terrible.

Make as many excuses as you want. But MCPS is failing our kids in Math, no doubt about it. And it’s not just Algebra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

Not sure what you mean.

I have a DD who just finished 8th grade. We got the results this past year for the Algebra MCAP for all the kids who took Algebra in 7th grade. These were not ‘struggling learners’.

The stats were simply terrible.

Make as many excuses as you want. But MCPS is failing our kids in Math, no doubt about it. And it’s not just Algebra.

The test wasn't meaningful. It had never been given before that year. The statistic was about the state of Maryland not MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

Not sure what you mean.

I have a DD who just finished 8th grade. We got the results this past year for the Algebra MCAP for all the kids who took Algebra in 7th grade. These were not ‘struggling learners’.

The stats were simply terrible.

Make as many excuses as you want. But MCPS is failing our kids in Math, no doubt about it. And it’s not just Algebra.

The test wasn't meaningful. It had never been given before that year. The statistic was about the state of Maryland not MCPS.

DC who scored over 300 on their map-m got an average score on this test. It seems like they haven't worked out the bugs yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

Not sure what you mean.

I have a DD who just finished 8th grade. We got the results this past year for the Algebra MCAP for all the kids who took Algebra in 7th grade. These were not ‘struggling learners’.

The stats were simply terrible.

Make as many excuses as you want. But MCPS is failing our kids in Math, no doubt about it. And it’s not just Algebra.

The test wasn't meaningful. It had never been given before that year. The statistic was about the state of Maryland not MCPS.

MCPS is one of the largest school districts in the state of Maryland. It is fair to assume that the 30% proficiency rate is also true for MCPS.

However, if you have a stat showing that a higher percentage of MCPS are proficient in Algebra, I would love to see that stat! And hope that it is true, because our recent results look pretty terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Rankings by “WalletHub” and promoted in the website of a failed BOE candidate.

I would be worried if they took this seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been discussed here.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/montgomery-county-ranked-2nd-least-equitable-school-district-in-maryland-according-to-report/

Any chance there school system or the BOE even acknowledges this? It’s pretty embarrassing for a system that tries to consider equity in every decision.

Their methodology for ranking seems arbitrary. I doubt the BOE is taking Wallet Hub's ranking all that seriously.

Sounds typical of what MCPS says.

Only 30% of our students are proficient in Algebra? Eh, the scoring must be ‘arbitrary’. The kids all got As and Bs in the class, right? The testing/ranking must be defective.

This is a good example of why statistics without context are meaningless. The 27% or 30% number comes from the number of high schoolers who "pass" the Algebra I MCAP.

Now, grade level math finishes Algebra I in 8th grade. Kids on the accelerated schedule finish Algebra I in 7th grade. So those kids take the MCAP test in either 7th or 8th grades and do not take it in high school. The only kids who take the Algebra I MCAP in high school are the ones who are already below grade level.

So the 30% number is only of kids who are working below grade level. It's not great, and suggests MCPS could do more to help struggling learners, but it does NOT mean that 70% of kids can't pass an Algebra I test. It means that the 70% of the 20% of kids not taking grade level math can not pass an Algebra I test.

Not sure what you mean.

I have a DD who just finished 8th grade. We got the results this past year for the Algebra MCAP for all the kids who took Algebra in 7th grade. These were not ‘struggling learners’.

The stats were simply terrible.

Make as many excuses as you want. But MCPS is failing our kids in Math, no doubt about it. And it’s not just Algebra.

The test wasn't meaningful. It had never been given before that year. The statistic was about the state of Maryland not MCPS.

MCPS is one of the largest school districts in the state of Maryland. It is fair to assume that the 30% proficiency rate is also true for MCPS.

However, if you have a stat showing that a higher percentage of MCPS are proficient in Algebra, I would love to see that stat! And hope that it is true, because our recent results look pretty terrible.

Thank you for quoting the obvious - this sounds like a dig but isn’t. So many folks get on here when state tests come out and say ‘oh that’s not MCPS.’ But MCPS is largest school district and most well funded so those numbers are certainly part of MCPS’ story too.