Have any wealthy Republican donors, politicians or talking heads NOT sent their kids to college?

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My college degrees were my ticket out of a life of low income stress and a future I didn’t want. I was the first person in my family to graduate high school. Yes, I have student loan debt but 100% worth it. I can lose everything but they can never take my education away. YMMV.

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Anonymous wrote:College is just a signaling mechanism. It has no real value otherwise except for Ph.D. scientists and researchers who make a career of it.

Idiotic statement. It's just keeping the base focused on how their lack of education is a supposed benefit. So they can feel understood by wealthy, educated people who need the un-undereducated to stay in power. Gotta keep people voting against their interests just the way their Foxy puppetmasters tell them.

+1 Now that they've succeeded in taking away abortion rights and boosting gun rights, they can focus on another item on their agenda - destroying public education, including colleges.

+1 and if I may point everyone to the thread about what the President of bad RWNJ idea factory Hillsdale College has to say about education, higher and otherwise. Breathtaking.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1069837.page

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Anonymous wrote:I went to college and wish I didn’t. Grew up with we off doctor parents so it was expected. Turns out I’m a blue collar guy at heart and would rather be a plumber — anything but spending any time sitting at a computer or desk.

Are you actually a plumber, or is this a fantasy of how life coulda, shoulda gone, if only? It's not too late to quit & start over. Why haven't you?

I’m 29 and I have almost a million saved up in addition to a cash flow producing rental because of luck — dumb yolo’s I made in college, plus I bought a house in Charlottesville next to UVA with a 70k inheritance from my grandmother back in 2011 when I was fresh out of high school and it’s been a cash cow. Plan I to keep grinding at my job I hate for another 5 years, buy another rental or two, and quit and retire / pursue my hobbies full time.

So you are privileged & spoiled. Just quit, get a nice blue collar job where you break your back & eat sh*t in the name of earning a living. Stop whining and go get your hands dirty. Then report back.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to college and wish I didn’t. Grew up with we off doctor parents so it was expected. Turns out I’m a blue collar guy at heart and would rather be a plumber — anything but spending any time sitting at a computer or desk.

Are you actually a plumber, or is this a fantasy of how life coulda, shoulda gone, if only? It's not too late to quit & start over. Why haven't you?

I’m 29 and I have almost a million saved up in addition to a cash flow producing rental because of luck — dumb yolo’s I made in college, plus I bought a house in Charlottesville next to UVA with a 70k inheritance from my grandmother back in 2011 when I was fresh out of high school and it’s been a cash cow. Plan I to keep grinding at my job I hate for another 5 years, buy another rental or two, and quit and retire / pursue my hobbies full time.

Jesus H Christ this is one of the most entitled posts I've ever read on DCUM. And that's saying something.

I have older family members who have been blue collars workers their entire lives. Your body starts seriously breaking down at age 50 after thirty years of manual labor. These guys are mid 50s and look like they are pushing 70. Their bodies are broken, they move slow, they can't lift much anymore, they have A LOT difficulty crouching or being on their knees. And guess what? Most blue collar work doesn't give you a 401K or matching funds. If they were getting paid under the table for a large portion of their career, they will get minimal Social Security and some many not have enough credits to even qualify for Social Security. If they are independent, they are likely going without health insurance and have to wait until 65 to get Medicare.

The only "blue collar" guys who do well are those who inherit their daddy's contracting or plumbing company where they have a dozens of guys who for them. At that point, they are just like any other white collar manager directing workers and counting money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My college degrees were my ticket out of a life of low income stress and a future I didn’t want. I was the first person in my family to graduate high school. Yes, I have student loan debt but 100% worth it. I can lose everything but they can never take my education away. YMMV.

+1. Education is valuable and can't be taken away.

[Anonymous]

Dismissing college is also form of sexism. Women have a very hard time getting into the trade. My niece tried to become an electrician but it is very much a man’s world. I’m the PP who was the first to graduate HS in my family. The fields open to women are not as high paying as the trades (electrician, welder, plumber, mechanic, etc) and most involve care taking, which let’s face it, in our society no one values care taking (child care, elder care). College is a better path if women want financial independence (assuming a good major).

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It is too bad that most of the discussion around college gets off target, with the focus on the utility of college or writing off student debt. College is obviously important, but we’ve moved into a world where the costs have exploded and it’s putting a huge burden on the next generation. I think Andrew Yang was really the only politician who was drilling in on this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Dismissing college is also form of sexism. Women have a very hard time getting into the trade. My niece tried to become an electrician but it is very much a man’s world. I’m the PP who was the first to graduate HS in my family. The fields open to women are not as high paying as the trades (electrician, welder, plumber, mechanic, etc) and most involve care taking, which let’s face it, in our society no one values care taking (child care, elder care). College is a better path if women want financial independence (assuming a good major).

Also: women are getting degrees disproportionately now.
Men aren’t keeping up, so they are moving the goalposts.

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Anonymous wrote:Dismissing college is also form of sexism. Women have a very hard time getting into the trade. My niece tried to become an electrician but it is very much a man’s world. I’m the PP who was the first to graduate HS in my family. The fields open to women are not as high paying as the trades (electrician, welder, plumber, mechanic, etc) and most involve care taking, which let’s face it, in our society no one values care taking (child care, elder care). College is a better path if women want financial independence (assuming a good major).

Also: women are getting degrees disproportionately now.
Men aren’t keeping up, so they are moving the goalposts.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:College is just a signaling mechanism. It has no real value otherwise except for Ph.D. scientists and researchers who make a career of it.

So you went there to get a useless degree? There are actually things you can learn in the 4years you are there, you know. Tell your kids to pick an actual path.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to college and wish I didn’t. Grew up with we off doctor parents so it was expected. Turns out I’m a blue collar guy at heart and would rather be a plumber — anything but spending any time sitting at a computer or desk.

Are you actually a plumber, or is this a fantasy of how life coulda, shoulda gone, if only? It's not too late to quit & start over. Why haven't you?

I’m 29 and I have almost a million saved up in addition to a cash flow producing rental because of luck — dumb yolo’s I made in college, plus I bought a house in Charlottesville next to UVA with a 70k inheritance from my grandmother back in 2011 when I was fresh out of high school and it’s been a cash cow. Plan I to keep grinding at my job I hate for another 5 years, buy another rental or two, and quit and retire / pursue my hobbies full time.

Jesus H Christ this is one of the most entitled posts I've ever read on DCUM. And that's saying something.

I have older family members who have been blue collars workers their entire lives. Your body starts seriously breaking down at age 50 after thirty years of manual labor. These guys are mid 50s and look like they are pushing 70. Their bodies are broken, they move slow, they can't lift much anymore, they have A LOT difficulty crouching or being on their knees. And guess what? Most blue collar work doesn't give you a 401K or matching funds. If they were getting paid under the table for a large portion of their career, they will get minimal Social Security and some many not have enough credits to even qualify for Social Security. If they are independent, they are likely going without health insurance and have to wait until 65 to get Medicare.

The only "blue collar" guys who do well are those who inherit their daddy's contracting or plumbing company where they have a dozens of guys who for them. At that point, they are just like any other white collar manager directing workers and counting money.

Talk about entitled. And, condescending.
I know a lot of blue collar workers. Many of them OWN their own business and are doing quite well.
Your circle of "blue collar" workers must be quite small.
And, your bolded comment is flat out wrong. Plumbers and electricians do quite well.

I am a college graduate with advanced degrees. I have difficulty crouching or kneeling. Unfortunately, I inherited my dad's bad knees. The blue collar workers I know who are my age are much more limber than I am.....and I am much older than 50.

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Anonymous wrote:It is too bad that most of the discussion around college gets off target, with the focus on the utility of college or writing off student debt. College is obviously important, but we’ve moved into a world where the costs have exploded and it’s putting a huge burden on the next generation. I think Andrew Yang was really the only politician who was drilling in on this point.

Yes!!!! I wonder if he will get into the National fray again in 2024?

[Anonymous]

Education is the one gift no one can take away from someone.

The religious right is absurd. They love to keep their subjects dumb.

[Anonymous]

George W Bush used to rail against East Coast Ivy league liberals despite being a second (third?) generation Yalie. And he would highlight Barbara Bush being at UT Austin while downplaying her twin being at Yale. This is part of the fake GOP hatred of elitism.

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Didn't some of john McCain's sons enter the military directly?