Should People still give two weeks notice or take time off between jobs?

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Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this OP. On the job market now and expecting to make a move soon. Previously i’ve been a big proponent of taking an extra week between jobs, but the recent news coverage of offers being yanked has me worried.

I work 100 percent from home. Once people resign they basically on last two weeks hand off work and attend a few meetings and take the two personal days if still have them.

I plan on resigning my first day at new job. Will give 2 weeks notice old job but offer to leave sooner.

I can’t rush being unemployed. Plus will stretch out my paychecks from prior job.

Wait, you plan to spend the first 2 weeks at your new job still working at your old job? That's pretty unethical.

I've had employees who work from home try to work 2 jobs at the same time, and it ALWAYS backfires and they're terminated quickly. Don't do it.

How do you terminate someone who already resigned? Why would you bother?

New job will terminate you. My company absolutely would.

My current job I am absolutely allowed to work another job. We are an international company and no one tracks my time or daily work. I have strict quarterly deadlines on work to be performed. I dont have to be on line at any set times other than 2-3 times a week for meetings. If I am leaving my quarterly deadlines are meaningless.

Now my new job I heard is 2-3 days a week in office. On-boarding is remote. I also can have a second job. But new job being in an office full time not practical to work a second job nor would I want to. But for two weeks. Literally I would need to work 30-60 minutes a day on old job I would just attend the few mandatory meetings and hand off some stuff and hand in laptop.

I swear if I was shady I hire someone to do old job and hand them my laptop. I could make that last years if I had too.

We had people who just started new job and ran through vacation at my current job then called in sick or took unpaid FLMA till we off-boarded. Did not even bother to resign. Now that is shady. People have figured out just stop showing up. We are cracking down on that.

You may be allowed to work 2 jobs, but not if that second job impacts your first one. I work at place with VERY flexible hours, but still, we know you are not at your best if you're working 80 hours every week (40 for us). In the few times that we've uncovered this situation, there's been no discussions on whether it's allowed or whether it's working. Just automatic termination.

Except I have zero concept of time in my job. I have deliverables. And deliverables are quarterly. And I can work whenever I want. Want to do work Sunday, 2 in morning work Xmas. I literally have weeks do almost nothing then like college I work like crazy last 2-4 weeks of quarter like 12-14 hour days.

I did something similar years ago. My old company 90 percent of time walked you out door when gave two weeks notice. I gave two weeks Friday morning and walked out the door. My new job I started the next Monday. Got double pay two weeks. Is that unethical? I got two extra weeks pay and almost zero risk new job offer being pulled.

And let’s say you “caught me” you still would have paid me a few more days and I removed the risk. And no HR person is going to fire after you gave notice.

Plus we ask for it sometimes. A super critical person left we paid him two weeks salary while in new job if he was available to answer some questions like an hour each day.

This is not the 1980s there is no time clock

[Anonymous]

NP. I think you are mistaken about “HR isn’t going to terminate after you give notice”. I think they could, and at my current company likely would, if you are violating policy (working a second job without pre-approval = violating policy). It could be a big deal, because if you are fired for violating policy, you are coded as ineligible for re-hire.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think you are mistaken about “HR isn’t going to terminate after you give notice”. I think they could, and at my current company likely would, if you are violating policy (working a second job without pre-approval = violating policy). It could be a big deal, because if you are fired for violating policy, you are coded as ineligible for re-hire.

Who cares.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty desperate for a few weeks off between jobs. I'm a fed though and HR said my offer would be rescinded if I did so. It would mess up benefits, time in service, on and on (we use DH's insurance). Also, when I was a broke GS7 with 5 weeks of annual leave, I really wanted to quit my current job, take the annual leave payout and then start my new job. That was also a big no.

Isn't the way to do this to push your new fed start date back later (eg, one more pay period), then take leave at your current/old job? Then there would be no break in service.

I don't have any leave. I only had leave that I wanted paid out when I was a GS7.

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Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this OP. On the job market now and expecting to make a move soon. Previously i’ve been a big proponent of taking an extra week between jobs, but the recent news coverage of offers being yanked has me worried.

I work 100 percent from home. Once people resign they basically on last two weeks hand off work and attend a few meetings and take the two personal days if still have them.

I plan on resigning my first day at new job. Will give 2 weeks notice old job but offer to leave sooner.

I can’t rush being unemployed. Plus will stretch out my paychecks from prior job.

Wait, you plan to spend the first 2 weeks at your new job still working at your old job? That's pretty unethical.

I've had employees who work from home try to work 2 jobs at the same time, and it ALWAYS backfires and they're terminated quickly. Don't do it.

How do you terminate someone who already resigned? Why would you bother?

New job will terminate you. My company absolutely would.

My current job I am absolutely allowed to work another job. We are an international company and no one tracks my time or daily work. I have strict quarterly deadlines on work to be performed. I dont have to be on line at any set times other than 2-3 times a week for meetings. If I am leaving my quarterly deadlines are meaningless.

Now my new job I heard is 2-3 days a week in office. On-boarding is remote. I also can have a second job. But new job being in an office full time not practical to work a second job nor would I want to. But for two weeks. Literally I would need to work 30-60 minutes a day on old job I would just attend the few mandatory meetings and hand off some stuff and hand in laptop.

I swear if I was shady I hire someone to do old job and hand them my laptop. I could make that last years if I had too.

We had people who just started new job and ran through vacation at my current job then called in sick or took unpaid FLMA till we off-boarded. Did not even bother to resign. Now that is shady. People have figured out just stop showing up. We are cracking down on that.

You may be allowed to work 2 jobs, but not if that second job impacts your first one. I work at place with VERY flexible hours, but still, we know you are not at your best if you're working 80 hours every week (40 for us). In the few times that we've uncovered this situation, there's been no discussions on whether it's allowed or whether it's working. Just automatic termination.

Except I have zero concept of time in my job. I have deliverables. And deliverables are quarterly. And I can work whenever I want. Want to do work Sunday, 2 in morning work Xmas. I literally have weeks do almost nothing then like college I work like crazy last 2-4 weeks of quarter like 12-14 hour days.

I did something similar years ago. My old company 90 percent of time walked you out door when gave two weeks notice. I gave two weeks Friday morning and walked out the door. My new job I started the next Monday. Got double pay two weeks. Is that unethical? I got two extra weeks pay and almost zero risk new job offer being pulled.

And let’s say you “caught me” you still would have paid me a few more days and I removed the risk. And no HR person is going to fire after you gave notice.

Plus we ask for it sometimes. A super critical person left we paid him two weeks salary while in new job if he was available to answer some questions like an hour each day.

This is not the 1980s there is no time clock

It's no issue if everything is aboveboard and approved by management at both companies. But given that you're apparently concerned your new company will pull your offer letter and your old company wouldn't take you back if they did, I sincerely doubt you're in a good enough position with either employer to ask for special dispensation to work a second job in your off hours. If you are in such good standing with either employer, why would you need to overlap the jobs in the first place?

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Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this OP. On the job market now and expecting to make a move soon. Previously i’ve been a big proponent of taking an extra week between jobs, but the recent news coverage of offers being yanked has me worried.

I work 100 percent from home. Once people resign they basically on last two weeks hand off work and attend a few meetings and take the two personal days if still have them.

I plan on resigning my first day at new job. Will give 2 weeks notice old job but offer to leave sooner.

I can’t rush being unemployed. Plus will stretch out my paychecks from prior job.

Wait, you plan to spend the first 2 weeks at your new job still working at your old job? That's pretty unethical.

I've had employees who work from home try to work 2 jobs at the same time, and it ALWAYS backfires and they're terminated quickly. Don't do it.

How do you terminate someone who already resigned? Why would you bother?

New job will terminate you. My company absolutely would.

My current job I am absolutely allowed to work another job. We are an international company and no one tracks my time or daily work. I have strict quarterly deadlines on work to be performed. I dont have to be on line at any set times other than 2-3 times a week for meetings. If I am leaving my quarterly deadlines are meaningless.

Now my new job I heard is 2-3 days a week in office. On-boarding is remote. I also can have a second job. But new job being in an office full time not practical to work a second job nor would I want to. But for two weeks. Literally I would need to work 30-60 minutes a day on old job I would just attend the few mandatory meetings and hand off some stuff and hand in laptop.

I swear if I was shady I hire someone to do old job and hand them my laptop. I could make that last years if I had too.

We had people who just started new job and ran through vacation at my current job then called in sick or took unpaid FLMA till we off-boarded. Did not even bother to resign. Now that is shady. People have figured out just stop showing up. We are cracking down on that.

You may be allowed to work 2 jobs, but not if that second job impacts your first one. I work at place with VERY flexible hours, but still, we know you are not at your best if you're working 80 hours every week (40 for us). In the few times that we've uncovered this situation, there's been no discussions on whether it's allowed or whether it's working. Just automatic termination.

Except I have zero concept of time in my job. I have deliverables. And deliverables are quarterly. And I can work whenever I want. Want to do work Sunday, 2 in morning work Xmas. I literally have weeks do almost nothing then like college I work like crazy last 2-4 weeks of quarter like 12-14 hour days.

I did something similar years ago. My old company 90 percent of time walked you out door when gave two weeks notice. I gave two weeks Friday morning and walked out the door. My new job I started the next Monday. Got double pay two weeks. Is that unethical? I got two extra weeks pay and almost zero risk new job offer being pulled.

And let’s say you “caught me” you still would have paid me a few more days and I removed the risk. And no HR person is going to fire after you gave notice.

Plus we ask for it sometimes. A super critical person left we paid him two weeks salary while in new job if he was available to answer some questions like an hour each day.

This is not the 1980s there is no time clock

It's no issue if everything is aboveboard and approved by management at both companies. But given that you're apparently concerned your new company will pull your offer letter and your old company wouldn't take you back if they did, I sincerely doubt you're in a good enough position with either employer to ask for special dispensation to work a
second job in your off hours. If you are in such good standing with either employer, why would you need to overlap the jobs in the first place?

OP my current job I am way underpaid and things are not stabile. I or anyone at work can get let go anytime. Plus when hammer falls quick and swift. We offed a head of department like ten minutes before a team meeting on-line. He joined meeting five minutes said goodbye and deactivated. We actually give severance if chopped.

New job if the $360k job owes me nothing. Could pull offer letter prior to start.

My best best best case I sign offer letter and before I give notice get laid off prior company and get a check!!!

Worse case I give notice and in between jobs new company pulls offer letter.

That is a huge swing. We off people every quarter end. So 2Q just ended will be offing some folks. We fire or let go 1-2 percent of company every 90days.

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Why not take a week’s leave then give 2 weeks and start the new job the following Monday?

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Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this OP. On the job market now and expecting to make a move soon. Previously i’ve been a big proponent of taking an extra week between jobs, but the recent news coverage of offers being yanked has me worried.

I work 100 percent from home. Once people resign they basically on last two weeks hand off work and attend a few meetings and take the two personal days if still have them.

I plan on resigning my first day at new job. Will give 2 weeks notice old job but offer to leave sooner.

I can’t rush being unemployed. Plus will stretch out my paychecks from prior job.

Wait, you plan to spend the first 2 weeks at your new job still working at your old job? That's pretty unethical.

I've had employees who work from home try to work 2 jobs at the same time, and it ALWAYS backfires and they're terminated quickly. Don't do it.

How do you terminate someone who already resigned? Why would you bother?

New job will terminate you. My company absolutely would.

My current job I am absolutely allowed to work another job. We are an international company and no one tracks my time or daily work. I have strict quarterly deadlines on work to be performed. I dont have to be on line at any set times other than 2-3 times a week for meetings. If I am leaving my quarterly deadlines are meaningless.

Now my new job I heard is 2-3 days a week in office. On-boarding is remote. I also can have a second job. But new job being in an office full time not practical to work a second job nor would I want to. But for two weeks. Literally I would need to work 30-60 minutes a day on old job I would just attend the few mandatory meetings and hand off some stuff and hand in laptop.

I swear if I was shady I hire someone to do old job and hand them my laptop. I could make that last years if I had too.

We had people who just started new job and ran through vacation at my current job then called in sick or took unpaid FLMA till we off-boarded. Did not even bother to resign. Now that is shady. People have figured out just stop showing up. We are cracking down on that.

You may be allowed to work 2 jobs, but not if that second job impacts your first one. I work at place with VERY flexible hours, but still, we know you are not at your best if you're working 80 hours every week (40 for us). In the few times that we've uncovered this situation, there's been no discussions on whether it's allowed or whether it's working. Just automatic termination.

Except I have zero concept of time in my job. I have deliverables. And deliverables are quarterly. And I can work whenever I want. Want to do work Sunday, 2 in morning work Xmas. I literally have weeks do almost nothing then like college I work like crazy last 2-4 weeks of quarter like 12-14 hour days.

I did something similar years ago. My old company 90 percent of time walked you out door when gave two weeks notice. I gave two weeks Friday morning and walked out the door. My new job I started the next Monday. Got double pay two weeks. Is that unethical? I got two extra weeks pay and almost zero risk new job offer being pulled.

And let’s say you “caught me” you still would have paid me a few more days and I removed the risk. And no HR person is going to fire after you gave notice.

Plus we ask for it sometimes. A super critical person left we paid him two weeks salary while in new job if he was available to answer some questions like an hour each day.

This is not the 1980s there is no time clock

It's no issue if everything is aboveboard and approved by management at both companies. But given that you're apparently concerned your new company will pull your offer letter and your old company wouldn't take you back if they did, I sincerely doubt you're in a good enough position with either employer to ask for special dispensation to work a
second job in your off hours. If you are in such good standing with either employer, why would you need to overlap the jobs in the first place?

OP my current job I am way underpaid and things are not stabile. I or anyone at work can get let go anytime. Plus when hammer falls quick and swift. We offed a head of department like ten minutes before a team meeting on-line. He joined meeting five minutes said goodbye and deactivated. We actually give severance if chopped.

New job if the $360k job owes me nothing. Could pull offer letter prior to start.

My best best best case I sign offer letter and before I give notice get laid off prior company and get a check!!!

Worse case I give notice and in between jobs new company pulls offer letter.

That is a huge swing. We off people every quarter end. So 2Q just ended will be offing some folks. We fire or let go 1-2 percent of company every 90days.

Wow. What field? What company? I want to avoid it.

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I got an offer, and asked for a month before my start date. I didn't resign from my job until two weeks later when I'd received repeated reassurances that the offer was solid, and I'd already begun the onboarding process. I wasn't worried, so I resigned my job. I knew I'd be rehired if the offer was rescinded, but it wasn't (I didn't fear it would be), so I started the new job.

I feel like two weeks' notice is still required, although often companies pay the two weeks, and let you leave.