Nanny leave- is this a lot?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why we have our nanny ACCRUE PTO. We don't hand them three weeks of vacation at the start of the year. Each pay period they accrue a portion of PTO. We also put in the contract that unless there's a true medical emergency we prefer they not take unpaid time off.

Between the paid vacation the nanny earns and the times we travel and don't need the nanny but pay them, they generally get about six weeks or more off each year (Covid notwithstanding).


How do you handle sick leave?


Are you unfamiliar with the concept of PTO?


Of course, but if your nanny has covid you are expecting them to take vacation days to cover that? You sound horrible.
Anonymous
Extremely excessive. She should have to accrue time to get vacation days. At this point I’d also have her work one of the weeks you are gone. Organize the kids clothes or something
Anonymous
DP. This is what we put in our contract:

Five days sick leave each year available at the start of the calendar year (honor system), no carryover of unused to next year. Any additional paid sick leave will due to covid infection (positive pcr required).

Two weeks vacation leave accrued monthly over the year, five days max carryover of unused vacation. One month notice of one week or more of planned vacation preferred but more flexibility for a few days here and there.





Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:24/7 nanny here, sn and behavioral problems

I have unlimited sick leave... but I have to provide a doctor's note if a single injury or illness is prolonged, especially since I'm arranging for coverage and my employer is stuck double paying for 24 hour care if they're not in state.

I have unlimited PTO and vacation in this position... but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again. If they're back for under a week in between trips, there's no PTO/vacation allowed. I'm planning on taking 2-3 weeks off the next time they're home for a month, then 3 weeks the following time they're home for a month. All told, I'll have about 10 weeks of limited/no duty for the year, but they feel that I've earned it.


This is a pretty unusual situation though.


Not really.

I always negotiate for unlimited sick leave. I always negotiate for at least 2 weeks of vacation of my choice and expect that I will have (some) time off when the parents are available to be with their children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:24/7 nanny here, sn and behavioral problems

I have unlimited sick leave... but I have to provide a doctor's note if a single injury or illness is prolonged, especially since I'm arranging for coverage and my employer is stuck double paying for 24 hour care if they're not in state.

I have unlimited PTO and vacation in this position... but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again. If they're back for under a week in between trips, there's no PTO/vacation allowed. I'm planning on taking 2-3 weeks off the next time they're home for a month, then 3 weeks the following time they're home for a month. All told, I'll have about 10 weeks of limited/no duty for the year, but they feel that I've earned it.


This is a pretty unusual situation though.


Not really.

I always negotiate for unlimited sick leave. I always negotiate for at least 2 weeks of vacation of my choice and expect that I will have (some) time off when the parents are available to be with their children.


The parents situation is unusual here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:24/7 nanny here, sn and behavioral problems

I have unlimited sick leave... but I have to provide a doctor's note if a single injury or illness is prolonged, especially since I'm arranging for coverage and my employer is stuck double paying for 24 hour care if they're not in state.

I have unlimited PTO and vacation in this position... but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again. If they're back for under a week in between trips, there's no PTO/vacation allowed. I'm planning on taking 2-3 weeks off the next time they're home for a month, then 3 weeks the following time they're home for a month. All told, I'll have about 10 weeks of limited/no duty for the year, but they feel that I've earned it.


This is a pretty unusual situation though.


Not really.

I always negotiate for unlimited sick leave. I always negotiate for at least 2 weeks of vacation of my choice and expect that I will have (some) time off when the parents are available to be with their children.


The parents situation is unusual here.


Extremely unusual. Interesting but not really applicable to most FT nanny positions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:24/7 nanny here, sn and behavioral problems

I have unlimited sick leave... but I have to provide a doctor's note if a single injury or illness is prolonged, especially since I'm arranging for coverage and my employer is stuck double paying for 24 hour care if they're not in state.

I have unlimited PTO and vacation in this position... but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again. If they're back for under a week in between trips, there's no PTO/vacation allowed. I'm planning on taking 2-3 weeks off the next time they're home for a month, then 3 weeks the following time they're home for a month. All told, I'll have about 10 weeks of limited/no duty for the year, but they feel that I've earned it.


This is a pretty unusual situation though.


Not really.

I always negotiate for unlimited sick leave. I always negotiate for at least 2 weeks of vacation of my choice and expect that I will have (some) time off when the parents are available to be with their children.


The parents situation is unusual here.


Extremely unusual. Interesting but not really applicable to most FT nanny positions.


Again, I said I *always* negotiate for unlimited sick time. I've worked pt, ft and 24 hour care. I also have several friends who negotiate for unlimited sick time. None of us abuse that privilege, or we wouldn't get it with our next family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:24/7 nanny here, sn and behavioral problems

I have unlimited sick leave... but I have to provide a doctor's note if a single injury or illness is prolonged, especially since I'm arranging for coverage and my employer is stuck double paying for 24 hour care if they're not in state.

I have unlimited PTO and vacation in this position... but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again. If they're back for under a week in between trips, there's no PTO/vacation allowed. I'm planning on taking 2-3 weeks off the next time they're home for a month, then 3 weeks the following time they're home for a month. All told, I'll have about 10 weeks of limited/no duty for the year, but they feel that I've earned it.


This is a pretty unusual situation though.


Not really.

I always negotiate for unlimited sick leave. I always negotiate for at least 2 weeks of vacation of my choice and expect that I will have (some) time off when the parents are available to be with their children.


The parents situation is unusual here.


Extremely unusual. Interesting but not really applicable to most FT nanny positions.


Again, I said I *always* negotiate for unlimited sick time. I've worked pt, ft and 24 hour care. I also have several friends who negotiate for unlimited sick time. None of us abuse that privilege, or we wouldn't get it with our next family.


Are you being willfully obtuse? The unlimited sick time is not what is unusual about your situation (our nanny gets that too). The 2-3 weeks off at multiple times of the year is what is unusual.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:24/7 nanny here, sn and behavioral problems

I have unlimited sick leave... but I have to provide a doctor's note if a single injury or illness is prolonged, especially since I'm arranging for coverage and my employer is stuck double paying for 24 hour care if they're not in state.

I have unlimited PTO and vacation in this position... but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again. If they're back for under a week in between trips, there's no PTO/vacation allowed. I'm planning on taking 2-3 weeks off the next time they're home for a month, then 3 weeks the following time they're home for a month. All told, I'll have about 10 weeks of limited/no duty for the year, but they feel that I've earned it.


This is a pretty unusual situation though.


Not really.

I always negotiate for unlimited sick leave. I always negotiate for at least 2 weeks of vacation of my choice and expect that I will have (some) time off when the parents are available to be with their children.


The parents situation is unusual here.


Extremely unusual. Interesting but not really applicable to most FT nanny positions.


Again, I said I *always* negotiate for unlimited sick time. I've worked pt, ft and 24 hour care. I also have several friends who negotiate for unlimited sick time. None of us abuse that privilege, or we wouldn't get it with our next family.


Are you being willfully obtuse? The unlimited sick time is not what is unusual about your situation (our nanny gets that too). The 2-3 weeks off at multiple times of the year is what is unusual.


This is also extremely unusual: "but my employer is out-of-state for 3-7 weeks at a time, and then they're home with no work until they leave again." Most employers do not leave their nanny home witht their kids for such long stretches. Also, the nanny in question IS abusing her PTO so the fact that you don't abuse yours is irrelevant
Anonymous
This is OP with an update. She worked two days last week, left early yesterday and now will be out till at least Thursday. Really don't know what to do. She is wonderful with the kids but we are paying for a lot of unworked days.
Anonymous
New nanny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is OP with an update. She worked two days last week, left early yesterday and now will be out till at least Thursday. Really don't know what to do. She is wonderful with the kids but we are paying for a lot of unworked days.


Why is she going to be out this time? Did her references give any indication this was an issue in the past?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is OP with an update. She worked two days last week, left early yesterday and now will be out till at least Thursday. Really don't know what to do. She is wonderful with the kids but we are paying for a lot of unworked days.


I was in your shoes, and it was a nightmare constantly juggling 5 days of work with roughly 3-4 days a week of nanny care almost every week. Finally, we had no choice but to either get a new nanny or do daycare. We did daycare, and it was the best decision of my entire life. Although this was pre-Covid. I don't think I could stomach a toddler in a mask all day. Go with your gut OP. Something has to change when your normal week is 3 to 4 days of coverage only
Anonymous
Op- she had excellent references. We live in an area where it is very, very hard to get a nanny. She had five offers and went with us and we felt so lucky to have gotten her.

She is out for an unspecified medical issue. She had a doctors appointment today and the doctor told her to stay home till Thursday while they test. She was previously out with covid for five days which we were happy to pay for. I think we'll pay for her sick days last week and this week and then talk to her about it. I don't want to not pay her if she's really sick but we also need to find a long term solution.
Anonymous
It isn’t tenable, OP. You have to start looking for another nanny.
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