Sex education

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you think you are going to hide this information from your child in this day and age, you are not going to succeed. Your kid will go to school with gender non-gender conforming kids whether your kid goes to public or private school. It really does not matter much if the school includes the topic in the official curriculum, your child will find out about this cultural shift sooner than you imagine. If you think finding out about gender identity will make your child doubt their gender identity, then you should ask yourself: did finding out about gay people make you doubt your own sexuality? If the answer is yes, you may have found the root of your unease (and it’s not about your kid at all). If you think people grown up secure in their gender identity only because no other possibility is tolerated or acknowledged, that’s a pretty bleak and impoverished view of what you hope for for your child. We talked about gender fluidity and gender binary from a very young age and read books about it etc. we made a point to talk about gendered expectations and to model defying gender roles. Our child is now an adolescent and emphatically confident in their (assigned at birth, consistent with birth certificate) gender. Honestly, the kids most likely to be drawn to gender “rebellion” for its own sake (to the extent that ever happens outside of the context of genuine gender fluidity and dysphoria, which is probably never) are likely to be kids whose parents were regressive and tried to eliminate the option and hide the information from them. That fearful and mega-controlling-of-information approach tends to backfire, whatever the context.


What cultural shift? What happened?
Anonymous
What’s a gender role and what’s defying gender roles?

Just do whatever arts, sports, jobs, shows you want.

If you’re a female no shame in wearing a skirt, they’re comfortable, or running shorts, they’re useful as well.
Anonymous
The kids most likely to be drawn to gender dysphoria are the ones 1) with nothing to bite on to, values wise, at home, 2) who have lgbtqia2+ parents, and 3) on the spectrum who take the school lessons or friend influence so literally they confuse their general confusion with gender identity issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The kids most likely to be drawn to gender dysphoria are the ones 1) with nothing to bite on to, values wise, at home, 2) who have lgbtqia2+ parents, and 3) on the spectrum who take the school lessons or friend influence so literally they confuse their general confusion with gender identity issues.


And you know this because you have direct personal experience, or are you conjecturing based on your outside view of other families?
Anonymous
Starts in 4th grade and builds every year. Felt appropriate given that kids are starting puberty earlier these days. Yes it includes discussion of gender identity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The kids most likely to be drawn to gender dysphoria are the ones 1) with nothing to bite on to, values wise, at home, 2) who have lgbtqia2+ parents, and 3) on the spectrum who take the school lessons or friend influence so literally they confuse their general confusion with gender identity issues.


And you know this because you have direct personal experience, or are you conjecturing based on your outside view of other families?


Because the PP enjoys making up shyte.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The kids most likely to be drawn to gender dysphoria are the ones 1) with nothing to bite on to, values wise, at home, 2) who have lgbtqia2+ parents, and 3) on the spectrum who take the school lessons or friend influence so literally they confuse their general confusion with gender identity issues.


There have been LGBTQ+ people since the dawn of humans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you think you are going to hide this information from your child in this day and age, you are not going to succeed. Your kid will go to school with gender non-gender conforming kids whether your kid goes to public or private school. It really does not matter much if the school includes the topic in the official curriculum, your child will find out about this cultural shift sooner than you imagine. If you think finding out about gender identity will make your child doubt their gender identity, then you should ask yourself: did finding out about gay people make you doubt your own sexuality? If the answer is yes, you may have found the root of your unease (and it’s not about your kid at all). If you think people grown up secure in their gender identity only because no other possibility is tolerated or acknowledged, that’s a pretty bleak and impoverished view of what you hope for for your child. We talked about gender fluidity and gender binary from a very young age and read books about it etc. we made a point to talk about gendered expectations and to model defying gender roles. Our child is now an adolescent and emphatically confident in their (assigned at birth, consistent with birth certificate) gender. Honestly, the kids most likely to be drawn to gender “rebellion” for its own sake (to the extent that ever happens outside of the context of genuine gender fluidity and dysphoria, which is probably never) are likely to be kids whose parents were regressive and tried to eliminate the option and hide the information from them. That fearful and mega-controlling-of-information approach tends to backfire, whatever the context.


Do you also talk like this IRL?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you think you are going to hide this information from your child in this day and age, you are not going to succeed. Your kid will go to school with gender non-gender conforming kids whether your kid goes to public or private school. It really does not matter much if the school includes the topic in the official curriculum, your child will find out about this cultural shift sooner than you imagine. If you think finding out about gender identity will make your child doubt their gender identity, then you should ask yourself: did finding out about gay people make you doubt your own sexuality? If the answer is yes, you may have found the root of your unease (and it’s not about your kid at all). If you think people grown up secure in their gender identity only because no other possibility is tolerated or acknowledged, that’s a pretty bleak and impoverished view of what you hope for for your child. We talked about gender fluidity and gender binary from a very young age and read books about it etc. we made a point to talk about gendered expectations and to model defying gender roles. Our child is now an adolescent and emphatically confident in their (assigned at birth, consistent with birth certificate) gender. Honestly, the kids most likely to be drawn to gender “rebellion” for its own sake (to the extent that ever happens outside of the context of genuine gender fluidity and dysphoria, which is probably never) are likely to be kids whose parents were regressive and tried to eliminate the option and hide the information from them. That fearful and mega-controlling-of-information approach tends to backfire, whatever the context.


Do you also talk like this IRL?


I hope they do -- I liked their post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My daughter was taught Theology of the Body in 8th grade. There is no discussion of gender identity. This is why we pay for private.


Most private schools are more woke than Public schools unless you send them to some ass-backwards madras.
Anonymous
Our private starts age-appropriate sex education in fourth grade and goes into more detail over the next two years. I reviewed the outlines and they looked pretty reasonable. I am glad they are doing it.

However, the school taught a family structure module in the first grade during the Covid online teaching period. I gave my DC a play period instead on the trampoline in the back yard. DC sees various family structures all around but has never asked any questions about the less common arrangements. We, as parents, take it all in stride. That will teach them all they need to know.
Anonymous
You can always opt your child out of sex Ed. If you don't want this topic discussed it might be better to find schools that don't discuss it on a regular basis rather than schools that don't discuss it during sex Ed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My daughter was taught Theology of the Body in 8th grade. There is no discussion of gender identity. This is why we pay for private.


The private schools we have toured have outright said statements along the lines of “there are many topics we do not talk about at school; discussion of non traditional relationships and identity issues are referred home to parents. Reproduction questions are also deferred to parents, with age appropriate guidance on how to respond.”

One of the many reasons we’re looking private.

Now to listen for DCUM heads exploding in outrage.
Anonymous
Yes those ongoing talks are part of parenting.
Anonymous
Or pay $50k to a SJW school with tons of identity classes and flavorful sex Ed. The choice is yours.
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