Top SF high school sees record spike in failing grades after dropping merit-based admission system

[Anonymous]

Remove achievement and you will have no achievement gap!!!

[Anonymous]

Democrats' plans in action.

Do away with all standards because any quality metric based on objective measurements is racist. The only thing that matters is diversity at all costs.

Quality of education predictably goes rapidly down the toilet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is this news? It went from students who have already proven themselves to random students. Of course they are not all capable. This will eventually turn into most public schools where grades are inflated.

Unfortunately, I’m sure lowering grading standards will be the “solution.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats' plans in action.

Do away with all standards because any quality metric based on objective measurements is racist. The only thing that matters is diversity at all costs.

Quality of education predictably goes rapidly down the toilet.

Many Democrats will agree with you! It’s educators who are weakening the school system..not voters. Us parents are just as horrified as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit-based high school admission is so gross.

How about appropriate challenge? Is that gross?

Thinking of challenge as something adults provide or withhold is gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit-based high school admission is so gross.

How about appropriate challenge? Is that gross?

Thinking of challenge as something adults provide or withhold is gross.

So…school in general is just gross. Noschooling for all! Hurrah!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this news? It went from students who have already proven themselves to random students. Of course they are not all capable. This will eventually turn into most public schools where grades are inflated.

Unfortunately, I’m sure lowering grading standards will be the “solution.”

Ding ding! Next year the article will say ‘miraculous turn around where only 5% of first years have a D or F.’ Without mentioning making the grading scale so easy you have to try on purpose to get a D or F.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this news? It went from students who have already proven themselves to random students. Of course they are not all capable. This will eventually turn into most public schools where grades are inflated.

Unfortunately, I’m sure lowering grading standards will be the “solution.”

Ding ding! Next year the article will say ‘miraculous turn around where only 5% of first years have a D or F.’ Without mentioning making the grading scale so easy you have to try on purpose to get a D or F.

Republicans and Democrats will eventually converge on simply making school voluntary. We don’t enforce truancy laws anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit-based high school admission is so gross.

How about appropriate challenge? Is that gross?

Thinking of challenge as something adults provide or withhold is gross.

huh? how else are kids going to learn, if not by adults providing challenges?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit-based high school admission is so gross.

you sound like a teenager.

Why is it "gross"? Why shouldn't very highly able students attend a merit based program?

Did you know that in some public HS, a student cannot opt to take AP classes, that they have to take AP placement exams to take the class? Is that "gross", too?

That is definitely gross. AP classes should be open to all. Merit based magnet programs are more complicated

[Anonymous]

Give the same opportunities for a challenging curriculum to every kid and those with the innate ability will rise to the challenge. Gatekeeping access with a very narrow criteria will cut out the underprivileged, many of whom have the ability.

My father studied medicine in Sri Lanka and began working in America with people who had a far more privileged educational experience than he did and he kicked most of their asses in job performance. He retired two years ago as Medical Director.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give the same opportunities for a challenging curriculum to every kid and those with the innate ability will rise to the challenge. Gatekeeping access with a very narrow criteria will cut out the underprivileged, many of whom have the ability.

My father studied medicine in Sri Lanka and began working in America with people who had a far more privileged educational experience than he did and he kicked most of their asses in job performance. He retired two years ago as Medical Director.

My guess is your father’s education had much stricter criteria and grading policies. My DH grew up in another country and you just failed if you didn’t do well on the yearly exams. So kids studied really hard and had to really know the material to pass or do well on the exams. And those exams were directly tied to college admissions. The US has such low educational expectations that getting an A or B does not denote knowledge in a subject. I hear you on the innate ability but what is happening in many places is that kids get good grades, graduate as valedictorian, etc. from public schools and can’t handle college because they don’t actually know how to write a paper, study or think critically. It’s really sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit-based high school admission is so gross.

you sound like a teenager.

Why is it "gross"? Why shouldn't very highly able students attend a merit based program?

Did you know that in some public HS, a student cannot opt to take AP classes, that they have to take AP placement exams to take the class? Is that "gross", too?

That is definitely gross. AP classes should be open to all. Merit based magnet programs are more complicated

AP for all is complicated. I agree about access but I’ve also seen too many scenarios where kids are not prepared and can’t handle the course and get nothing out of it. Or the teacher has to lower the rigor so much it’s not longer AP content. And that perpetuates to kids that they are learning college level material because it’s an ap class when they are really relearning basic skills.

[Anonymous]

I’m surprised and impressed they actually gave Ds and Fs. I would think SF schools would have given As to all. I guess we should at least be happy they’re not just passing everyone. I’m sure that’s the next step.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give the same opportunities for a challenging curriculum to every kid and those with the innate ability will rise to the challenge. Gatekeeping access with a very narrow criteria will cut out the underprivileged, many of whom have the ability.

My father studied medicine in Sri Lanka and began working in America with people who had a far more privileged educational experience than he did and he kicked most of their asses in job performance. He retired two years ago as Medical Director.

true, but that doesn’t mean you destroy high-performing merit based programs. it means you make challenging curriculum available everywhere, and support the kids who need more instruction.