Del Ray, Alexandria: Height Increase Ordinance

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

All of council and these boards are city residents. Voted (and appointed) by city residents.

The mayor is brainwashed. Others are looking for advancement in the single party or are on the take.

And they’ll continue to vote this way as long as the city council seats are all elected at large. They’re ensuring/importing their own voting bloc.

[Anonymous]

It has nothing to do with affordable housing and everything to do with greedy developers. All it’s going to do is allow developers to build taller building and charge exorbitant rents for tiny apartments. And in the process ruin the character. It will become just like certain parts of arlington—overcrowded and dense without any sunlight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://alextimes.com/2022/05/city-holds-zone-text-amendment-community-meeting/

June 23: Planning Commission

July 5th: City Council

Additional height bonus for subsidized housing in Alexandria. Old Town was removed. Notably Mt Vernon Avenue in Del Ray is still vulnerable.

It looks like staff took anything zoned commercial, but not industrial, and anything already Multifamily Medium or High Density Residential.

Which includes Mt Vernon Avenue. Alexandria isn’t a big city. With GIS and everything parceled it should easy to exclude that street and I think Del Ray has a historic district, like Old Town and “Parker Gray”. So if the intent is to preserve Mt Vernon Avenue and the heart of Del Ray, it shouldn’t even be for consideration.

In fact I can’t think of a single site that is appropriate for a height wavier, that isn’t already designated (Potomac Yard). Again the city isn’t big.

Not sure why Del Ray is even a consideration. Without Old Town and Del Ray, Alexandria is a worse Arlington, still prohibitively expensive and failing schools.

OP, instead of verbally tripping all over yourself, just admit you don’t want lower income people to be given an opportunity to live in Del Ray.

GMAB. NP here. There are plenty of Section 8 housing apartments in Del Ray. Seriously. Do you even know anything about Del Ray? Arlandria, the corner of Commonwealth & Monroe, the area surrounding Cora Kelly, Glebe Road, north part of Commonwealth, etc. For real.

So, keep "The Poors" penned into the few existing garden apartments scattered around the fringes of the neighborhood and give yourself a pat on the back for living in a socioeconomic diverse community. Sure.

And lumping Arlandria with Del Ray is misleading at best. They're two adjacent but separate neighborhoods. Do better.

What? I work with ARHA. You have no idea what you're talking about.

There is a large number of "affordable housing" under the IRS code (do you even know what that means?) in Del Ray. And from a public policy perspective you want section 8 housing scattered in different areas vs having them concentrated in one, single area which can form a ghetto/slum area. People who need public housing do better when they are dispersed throughout the city. Del Ray has PLENTY of section 8 housing units. So educate yourself and then come back to have a mature, adult discussion.

Scattered throughout the city, perhaps, but most certainly concentrated in the West End.

Please stop making stuff up to fit your troll narrative.

[Anonymous]

https://alexandrialivingmagazine.com/development

Anyone suggesting that all the development is in the West End, this map (facts) shows otherwise.

Of course that is obvious if you just look up, read any story about there not being development in the West End or council members, none of whom are in Old Town, who have no problem destroying a neighborhood, but when it’s right on top of a metro stop as per the small area plan? Then they protest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

[Anonymous]

NP. Higher density is only going to make the stuff that’s wrong with Alexandria worse.

[Anonymous]

I sure we hope we don't follow Arlington's lead - it's awful there - so crowded, horrific traffic, and packed in like sardines. We don't need more development or density..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

I just checked and there are only 12 houses on the market in Alexandria over $2m and they are basically either on the water or historic in Old Towne. It’s hilariously stupid for someone to claim that the rich people in Alexandria have been trying to shut out of the poor when such large parts of the city are housing projects. Aside from the abundant low income housing, probably a third of the city is just middle class Black folk. Whoever is trying to paint opposition to this as racist is really looking like a massive idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

I just checked and there are only 12 houses on the market in Alexandria over $2m and they are basically either on the water or historic in Old Towne. It’s hilariously stupid for someone to claim that the rich people in Alexandria have been trying to shut out of the poor when such large parts of the city are housing projects. Aside from the abundant low income housing, probably a third of the city is just middle class Black folk. Whoever is trying to paint opposition to this as racist is really looking like a massive idiot.

And the North Ridge area where many of the more expensive SFH are concentrated, is now the subject of a concerted effort to end SFH zoning. Only 14% of Alexandria housing stock is SFHs. The decision-makers are bought by the developers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

I just checked and there are only 12 houses on the market in Alexandria over $2m and they are basically either on the water or historic in Old Towne. It’s hilariously stupid for someone to claim that the rich people in Alexandria have been trying to shut out of the poor when such large parts of the city are housing projects. Aside from the abundant low income housing, probably a third of the city is just middle class Black folk. Whoever is trying to paint opposition to this as racist is really looking like a massive idiot.

And the North Ridge area where many of the more expensive SFH are concentrated, is now the subject of a concerted effort to end SFH zoning. Only 14% of Alexandria housing stock is SFHs. The decision-makers are bought by the developers.

What I am seeing is a weaponizing of “woke” social justice language in service of developer profits. I find it sad and profoundly gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

I just checked and there are only 12 houses on the market in Alexandria over $2m and they are basically either on the water or historic in Old Towne. It’s hilariously stupid for someone to claim that the rich people in Alexandria have been trying to shut out of the poor when such large parts of the city are housing projects. Aside from the abundant low income housing, probably a third of the city is just middle class Black folk. Whoever is trying to paint opposition to this as racist is really looking like a massive idiot.

And the North Ridge area where many of the more expensive SFH are concentrated, is now the subject of a concerted effort to end SFH zoning. Only 14% of Alexandria housing stock is SFHs. The decision-makers are bought by the developers.

What I am seeing is a weaponizing of “woke” social justice language in service of developer profits. I find it sad and profoundly gross.

Woke et al isn’t a word. It is a marketing term, invented to control people and profit off of them, and now used by others looking to make a buck. There’s nothing sad or gross about it, that wasn’t already done by so-called non-profits that specialize in dividing people.

What should be offend are attempts to rebrand Arlandria/Chirilhauga to “Del Ray North”. It’s not Del Ray, doesn’t need to be Del Ray, and building a bunch of glass mid-rises is not and never will be Del Ray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

I just checked and there are only 12 houses on the market in Alexandria over $2m and they are basically either on the water or historic in Old Towne. It’s hilariously stupid for someone to claim that the rich people in Alexandria have been trying to shut out of the poor when such large parts of the city are housing projects. Aside from the abundant low income housing, probably a third of the city is just middle class Black folk. Whoever is trying to paint opposition to this as racist is really looking like a massive idiot.

And the North Ridge area where many of the more expensive SFH are concentrated, is now the subject of a concerted effort to end SFH zoning. Only 14% of Alexandria housing stock is SFHs. The decision-makers are bought by the developers.

What I am seeing is a weaponizing of “woke” social justice language in service of developer profits. I find it sad and profoundly gross.

Woke et al isn’t a word. It is a marketing term, invented to control people and profit off of them, and now used by others looking to make a buck. There’s nothing sad or gross about it, that wasn’t already done by so-called non-profits that specialize in dividing people.

What should be offend are attempts to rebrand Arlandria/Chirilhauga to “Del Ray North”. It’s not Del Ray, doesn’t need to be Del Ray, and building a bunch of glass mid-rises is not and never will be Del Ray.

Who's trying to rebrand it? I never heard this "Del Ray North" until I came on here.

Look it's not Chirilagua either. It's Arlandria, period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look who is advocating for this - it is developers and people who make money from them. It definitely is not current City residents.

Look who is advocating against this - it is rich and privileged City residents who want to stuff all the people with less financial means into the West End instead of coexisting with them as an urban community.

As a non-Alexandria resident but long time DC area resident it’s clear to be that you don’t live there and have not lived here for a long time either.

Your charges of racism and complaints are just laughable. Alexandria has so much poverty and very few “rich” people. It’s just so absurd that it’s hilarious to see someone make these complaints.

Stop making a fool of yourself already.

I just checked and there are only 12 houses on the market in Alexandria over $2m and they are basically either on the water or historic in Old Towne. It’s hilariously stupid for someone to claim that the rich people in Alexandria have been trying to shut out of the poor when such large parts of the city are housing projects. Aside from the abundant low income housing, probably a third of the city is just middle class Black folk. Whoever is trying to paint opposition to this as racist is really looking like a massive idiot.

And the North Ridge area where many of the more expensive SFH are concentrated, is now the subject of a concerted effort to end SFH zoning. Only 14% of Alexandria housing stock is SFHs. The decision-makers are bought by the developers.

What I am seeing is a weaponizing of “woke” social justice language in service of developer profits. I find it sad and profoundly gross.

Woke et al isn’t a word. It is a marketing term, invented to control people and profit off of them, and now used by others looking to make a buck. There’s nothing sad or gross about it, that wasn’t already done by so-called non-profits that specialize in dividing people.

What should be offend are attempts to rebrand Arlandria/Chirilhauga to “Del Ray North”. It’s not Del Ray, doesn’t need to be Del Ray, and building a bunch of glass mid-rises is not and never will be Del Ray.

Who's trying to rebrand it? I never heard this "Del Ray North" until I came on here.

Look it's not Chirilagua either. It's Arlandria, period.

Shopping centers and apartments were renamed/rebranded.

Del Ray North Shopping Center, Northside, Del Ray Central Apartments (in between new north and actual Del Ray).

At least Chirilagua is colloquially used by people who live there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://alexandrialivingmagazine.com/development

Anyone suggesting that all the development is in the West End, this map (facts) shows otherwise.

Of course that is obvious if you just look up, read any story about there not being development in the West End or council members, none of whom are in Old Town, who have no problem destroying a neighborhood, but when it’s right on top of a metro stop as per the small area plan? Then they protest.

This map is incomplete, doesn't have the last 6 buildings that went up in the west end in the last 2 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Higher density is only going to make the stuff that’s wrong with Alexandria worse.

I'm a long term city resident who is planning on moving very soon. Alexandria is nothing like it was 25 years ago. Nothing, it was a lovely quaint, quiet, safe city for us it's been none of those things recently. It feels like city council wants this to be the next Manhattan and we are moving because of that. I can't even imagine what this place will be like 10 years from now especially the west end.