ERB: Help me understand the scores

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok I obviously don’t know where your child is in school but generally speaking these are good scores at local privates but not astounding or anything. Very likely the percentiles would be quite a bit lower if compared to local private school peers but more like 15 points or so lower rather than 50 points lower. Obviously this is ballpark. I’m basing it on what I remember from seeing my child’s scores which did have National and private school data though I don’t believe it was local privates.

Thank you. Yes, it has the mean score of independent schools and all scores were between 75% and 82%. The mean suburban scores were between 71% and 74%. I understand that compared to those scores my child would score lower than when compared to national average. I was just hoping for a comparing within the school or at least within the independent schools in the area.

[Anonymous]

If those are independent school percentiles, I think the staines are between 8-9 which is very strong. Bravo!

[Anonymous]

The ERBs aren't really great for parents to consider. Yes, they are benchmarked against like schools nationally, but there's an enormous range of when the test can be administered. And each school gets to decide what works for them, within a range. Some schools will do them in September and use them to guide instruction for the year, while others will do the test in January. But all those scores get lumped together because they are part of the same testing period.

But lots of schools administer the test and then do nothing with the data. Others have some grade level teams that use the data and others that don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Usually there is a stanine score of up to 9.

Don’t focus on the national scores but rather the local ones.

There are no local ones! Just national (overall), suburban schools(entire country included), private schools(entire country included) there are no local DMV scores on ERBs! Sometimes they included your child’s actual classmates scores in comparison on the chart.
What matters is how your child’s scores relate to their classmates, as in “is my child scoring at 80% because they haven’t yet been taught content on this test?”, if all the other kids are scoring around 80 or below then yes that might be the case and tells you some about the school’s curriculum for that grade in that subject. This tests are not IQ tests. They are content based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually there is a stanine score of up to 9.

Don’t focus on the national scores but rather the local ones.

There are no local ones! Just national (overall), suburban schools(entire country included), private schools(entire country included) there are no local DMV scores on ERBs! Sometimes they included your child’s actual classmates scores in comparison on the chart.
What matters is how your child’s scores relate to their classmates, as in “is my child scoring at 80% because they haven’t yet been taught content on this test?”, if all the other kids are scoring around 80 or below then yes that might be the case and tells you some about the school’s curriculum for that grade in that subject. This tests are not IQ tests. They are content based.

OP here. Thank you. This is what I meant. The purpose of my posting was to try and find a comparison within same school or at least in the same area… for example, my child scored very low in geometry 65% and that brought the math score down since all other categories were 85-95%. Is it because their class has not been taught geometry much/well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually there is a stanine score of up to 9.

Don’t focus on the national scores but rather the local ones.

There are no local ones! Just national (overall), suburban schools(entire country included), private schools(entire country included) there are no local DMV scores on ERBs! Sometimes they included your child’s actual classmates scores in comparison on the chart.
What matters is how your child’s scores relate to their classmates, as in “is my child scoring at 80% because they haven’t yet been taught content on this test?”, if all the other kids are scoring around 80 or below then yes that might be the case and tells you some about the school’s curriculum for that grade in that subject. This tests are not IQ tests. They are content based.

OP here. Thank you. This is what I meant. The purpose of my posting was to try and find a comparison within same school or at least in the same area… for example, my child scored very low in geometry 65% and that brought the math score down since all other categories were 85-95%. Is it because their class has not been taught geometry much/well?

This might be the case. If you are concerned,(I would not be) you can ask the teacher if your child seems to struggle in geometry but I would guess they will say, “oh we haven’t covered much of that yet, don’t worry.”
This goes tell you that the curriculum does not cover as much of this subject in your grade in that school than other schools across the country Might.

[Anonymous]

There are two comparators- the NN (national norm) and the Independent norm

Many private school kids will score on the high 90’s (96-99) on the national norm and have a stanine of 8-9. Anything lower would be a fine score but not great. As a proxy- to get into CTY you need a NN % of 98-99 no exceptions.

On the independent norm- a really good score would have you at a stanine of 8-9 (typically scores of 90%+)6-7 stanine a are very solid scores- but not super high

A 94 on NN isn’t necessarily great for a kid in an independent school- it’s fine- but not stellar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are two comparators- the NN (national norm) and the Independent norm

Many private school kids will score on the high 90’s (96-99) on the national norm and have a stanine of 8-9. Anything lower would be a fine score but not great. As a proxy- to get into CTY you need a NN % of 98-99 no exceptions.

On the independent norm- a really good score would have you at a stanine of 8-9 (typically scores of 90%+)6-7 stanine a are very solid scores- but not super high

A 94 on NN isn’t necessarily great for a kid in an independent school- it’s fine- but not stellar.

+1. You want to compare your child’s scores against the Independent School norm. Also I looked at my child’s scores from ERB and they most definitely include the standings for both National and Independent norms.

[Anonymous]

*stanines

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are two comparators- the NN (national norm) and the Independent norm

Many private school kids will score on the high 90’s (96-99) on the national norm and have a stanine of 8-9. Anything lower would be a fine score but not great. As a proxy- to get into CTY you need a NN % of 98-99 no exceptions.

On the independent norm- a really good score would have you at a stanine of 8-9 (typically scores of 90%+)6-7 stanine a are very solid scores- but not super high

A 94 on NN isn’t necessarily great for a kid in an independent school- it’s fine- but not stellar.

+1. You want to compare your child’s scores against the Independent School norm. Also I looked at my child’s scores from ERB and they most definitely include the standings for both National and Independent norms.

OP here. Thanks. My child is in 2nd grade… maybe that’s why we don’t have stanines?

All it says is what my child scored and what suburban and independent school children score (on average). For example: my child score 99% in reading comprehension while Suburban Norm average is 71% and independent norm is 78%.
My child scored 84% in Math while Suburban Average was 73% and independent average is 75%.

I was hoping for a school or at least DMV area comparison and that is why I asked here.

[Anonymous]

Second grade? Do you really need a comparison of your child’s ERB scores to other children in your school in the 2nd grade? You should be more focused on your child’s social and emotional development instead of worrying about if their teacher is covering enough geometry. Clearly your child is doing well.

[Anonymous]

People are confusing the ERB test with the ISEE which is administered by ERB.

The ERB, which it seems OP’s kid took is just a school given run of the mill standardized test which all students in the school take.

The ISEE is the private school admission exam that is only taken by kids applying to privates, who have probably studied and who are motivated to do well…thus it’s much more competitive. This test has the stanines.

OP’s kid did good/above average on the ERB.

If those scores had been ISEE scores, they would have been outstanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are confusing the ERB test with the ISEE which is administered by ERB.

The ERB, which it seems OP’s kid took is just a school given run of the mill standardized test which all students in the school take.

The ISEE is the private school admission exam that is only taken by kids applying to privates, who have probably studied and who are motivated to do well…thus it’s much more competitive. This test has the stanines.

OP’s kid did good/above average on the ERB.

If those scores had been ISEE scores, they would have been outstanding.

I’m a PP and I’m not confused. Where I live, the child’s ERBs are submitted along with their grades and ISEES for consideration for applications to private schools.

[Anonymous]

Also, the ERBs have stanines. My child has taken them since 3rd grade and the score report shows stanines. We received them from our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Second grade? Do you really need a comparison of your child’s ERB scores to other children in your school in the 2nd grade? You should be more focused on your child’s social and emotional development instead of worrying about if their teacher is covering enough geometry. Clearly your child is doing well.

OP here. I care about it all.