Anyone have a DC that was poorly prepared, esp. regarding study skills, get into STA MS and do well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many students change a great deal between middle school and HS. MS is when they develop habits! Definitely go for it and work hard in MS to instill good study skills and habits. Good luck, OP!

I really have not seen this happen in my son or his friends. It's lovely optimism but isn't reality.

[Anonymous]

Well, how did he get in? Is he a legacy? An athlete? An URM? Potential huge donors? If so, it’s easier to get in and you need to be more worried about whether it’s the right fit.

If he’s unconnected white boy who isn’t particularly good at sports, maybe the admissions office knows what they’re doing. Dunno.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The good news is that he has all of middle school to learn new habits. If you view it that way, as a learning experience and skill development time, and know that grades don't 'count' until 9th, you will be less stressed.

Also, the profile you describe is often ADHD masked by a high IQ.

More bad advice thrown in with the popular ADHD diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many students change a great deal between middle school and HS. MS is when they develop habits! Definitely go for it and work hard in MS to instill good study skills and habits. Good luck, OP!

I really have not seen this happen in my son or his friends. It's lovely optimism but isn't reality. [/quote

Agree, well intentioned, but not what I would advise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

This post is completely tone deaf and is obviously written by a mother whose son is not like OPs

I’m a pp and stand by my earlier comments. Boys who display this mindset in middle school rarely change. Teachers may temporarily “whip them in shape” - sort of- but at an enormous cost to school, home and personal happiness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

New poster here.
And he will get a C and it will be on his transcript for college. I was at the NCS auction last night and a number of us have 9th grade boys and they're all getting Cs in this class.
You are making it sound so optimistic and wonderful but I'm in the middle of a year from hell with a 9th grader.
Look, I love STA. I think most of us mostly do. But it's just hell when you're trying to motivate an unmotivated boy to do the work.
These kids don't get better between 6th and 9th. They almost uniformly get less motivated, often drastically so when hormones kick in.
I don't understand the poster who keeps posting such falsely optimistic crap. I'm a realist---and one who is going through this experience right now. IT'S MISERABLE TO BE PRODDING ALONG AN UNMOTIVATED BOY
AT A DEMANDING SCHOOL. It sucks--for the kid, for the parent and I'm sure for the teachers.
There is more to high school than a certain diploma. Fit is so freaking important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

New poster here.
And he will get a C and it will be on his transcript for college. I was at the NCS auction last night and a number of us have 9th grade boys and they're all getting Cs in this class.
You are making it sound so optimistic and wonderful but I'm in the middle of a year from hell with a 9th grader.
Look, I love STA. I think most of us mostly do. But it's just hell when you're trying to motivate an unmotivated boy to do the work.
These kids don't get better between 6th and 9th. They almost uniformly get less motivated, often drastically so when hormones kick in.
I don't understand the poster who keeps posting such falsely optimistic crap. I'm a realist---and one who is going through this experience right now. IT'S MISERABLE TO BE PRODDING ALONG AN UNMOTIVATED BOY
AT A DEMANDING SCHOOL. It sucks--for the kid, for the parent and I'm sure for the teachers.
There is more to high school than a certain diploma. Fit is so freaking important.

A number of you are putting your boys through hell? But you love it? Pls explain how both can be true and healthy - rather than miserable - for a boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

New poster here.
And he will get a C and it will be on his transcript for college. I was at the NCS auction last night and a number of us have 9th grade boys and they're all getting Cs in this class.
You are making it sound so optimistic and wonderful but I'm in the middle of a year from hell with a 9th grader.
Look, I love STA. I think most of us mostly do. But it's just hell when you're trying to motivate an unmotivated boy to do the work.
These kids don't get better between 6th and 9th. They almost uniformly get less motivated, often drastically so when hormones kick in.
I don't understand the poster who keeps posting such falsely optimistic crap. I'm a realist---and one who is going through this experience right now. IT'S MISERABLE TO BE PRODDING ALONG AN UNMOTIVATED BOY
AT A DEMANDING SCHOOL. It sucks--for the kid, for the parent and I'm sure for the teachers.
There is more to high school than a certain diploma. Fit is so freaking important.

A number of you are putting your boys through hell? But you love it? Pls explain how both can be true and healthy - rather than miserable - for a boy.

I don't understand the confusion? A school can be great--great teachers, lovely administration, etc. and not be the right fit for a particular kid.

[Anonymous]

Public school is the worst for lazy boys. It allows them to continue with their lazy ways. Sometimes it even rewards them for it. Don't feel like doing work? That's okay. You can hand in work whenever you want with no late penalties. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

New poster here.
And he will get a C and it will be on his transcript for college. I was at the NCS auction last night and a number of us have 9th grade boys and they're all getting Cs in this class.
You are making it sound so optimistic and wonderful but I'm in the middle of a year from hell with a 9th grader.
Look, I love STA. I think most of us mostly do. But it's just hell when you're trying to motivate an unmotivated boy to do the work.
These kids don't get better between 6th and 9th. They almost uniformly get less motivated, often drastically so when hormones kick in.
I don't understand the poster who keeps posting such falsely optimistic crap. I'm a realist---and one who is going through this experience right now. IT'S MISERABLE TO BE PRODDING ALONG AN UNMOTIVATED BOY
AT A DEMANDING SCHOOL. It sucks--for the kid, for the parent and I'm sure for the teachers.
There is more to high school than a certain diploma. Fit is so freaking important.

A number of you are putting your boys through hell? But you love it? Pls explain how both can be true and healthy - rather than miserable - for a boy.

I don't understand the confusion? A school can be great--great teachers, lovely administration, etc. and not be the right fit for a particular kid.

Is the school such a bad fit for a number of boys that is a miserable hell? How is this good for them? Why don’t parents change schools? Is it the prestige thing that’s been recurring here of late?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public school is the worst for lazy boys. It allows them to continue with their lazy ways. Sometimes it even rewards them for it. Don't feel like doing work? That's okay. You can hand in work whenever you want with no late penalties. Ugh.

PP and I agree. But there are options between public and total pressure private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

New poster here.
And he will get a C and it will be on his transcript for college. I was at the NCS auction last night and a number of us have 9th grade boys and they're all getting Cs in this class.
You are making it sound so optimistic and wonderful but I'm in the middle of a year from hell with a 9th grader.
Look, I love STA. I think most of us mostly do. But it's just hell when you're trying to motivate an unmotivated boy to do the work.
These kids don't get better between 6th and 9th. They almost uniformly get less motivated, often drastically so when hormones kick in.
I don't understand the poster who keeps posting such falsely optimistic crap. I'm a realist---and one who is going through this experience right now. IT'S MISERABLE TO BE PRODDING ALONG AN UNMOTIVATED BOY
AT A DEMANDING SCHOOL. It sucks--for the kid, for the parent and I'm sure for the teachers.
There is more to high school than a certain diploma. Fit is so freaking important.

A number of you are putting your boys through hell? But you love it? Pls explain how both can be true and healthy - rather than miserable - for a boy.

I don't understand the confusion? A school can be great--great teachers, lovely administration, etc. and not be the right fit for a particular kid.

Is the school such a bad fit for a number of boys that is a miserable hell? How is this good for them? Why don’t parents change schools? Is it the prestige thing that’s been recurring here of late?

I know a number of kids who applied from NCS and STA 9th grades this year but there was no movement for 10th. Burke, Landon, GDS, Bullis etc are all overenrolled for rising 10th and didn't take any students. the current 9th grade is gridlocked due to high yield from last year's Covid admissions. Kids are trying to ditch the prestige schools and they can't get out. It's a very weird year. Then the publics are a mess--Wilson for one is a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

What school is he coming from and what kind of recommendations did he get because I am surprised that he would get into STA if he has pore study habits. I would think they would have come up in recs.

Reading between the lines, OP's kid is obviously either a jock or a BoldName VIP. but more likely a jock.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son was admitted to STA from a K-8. He's very bright with major strengths in language arts, but generally an underperformer, mainly due to lack of effort. This seems to be because of a lack of maturity, which seems to be getting better recently. When he puts effort into things, he does well.

We're not particularly excited with the other schools he got into, so we would like him to attend STA--we're just feeling concerned about his work habits. Anyone have experience with this situation, and your DC ended up doing very well?

Congrats on your son's admission.

STA would not have taken him if they did not think they could get him to thrive and approach his potential.

If he gets Ms D for 9th Grade English she will whip him into shape....

The HS boys are also all doubling down and its cool to work your A++ off and be smart at STA- that is basically the culture. In my opinion that gets the best out of most young men

New poster here.
And he will get a C and it will be on his transcript for college. I was at the NCS auction last night and a number of us have 9th grade boys and they're all getting Cs in this class.
You are making it sound so optimistic and wonderful but I'm in the middle of a year from hell with a 9th grader.
Look, I love STA. I think most of us mostly do. But it's just hell when you're trying to motivate an unmotivated boy to do the work.
These kids don't get better between 6th and 9th. They almost uniformly get less motivated, often drastically so when hormones kick in.
I don't understand the poster who keeps posting such falsely optimistic crap. I'm a realist---and one who is going through this experience right now. IT'S MISERABLE TO BE PRODDING ALONG AN UNMOTIVATED BOY
AT A DEMANDING SCHOOL. It sucks--for the kid, for the parent and I'm sure for the teachers.
There is more to high school than a certain diploma. Fit is so freaking important.

A number of you are putting your boys through hell? But you love it? Pls explain how both can be true and healthy - rather than miserable - for a boy.

I don't understand the confusion? A school can be great--great teachers, lovely administration, etc. and not be the right fit for a particular kid.

Is the school such a bad fit for a number of boys that is a miserable hell? How is this good for them? Why don’t parents change schools? Is it the prestige thing that’s been recurring here of late?

I know a number of kids who applied from NCS and STA 9th grades this year but there was no movement for 10th. Burke, Landon, GDS, Bullis etc are all overenrolled for rising 10th and didn't take any students. the current 9th grade is gridlocked due to high yield from last year's Covid admissions. Kids are trying to ditch the prestige schools and they can't get out. It's a very weird year. Then the publics are a mess--Wilson for one is a disaster.

This thread is about misery in MS.