FCPS high school choice - best strategy for college admisions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moving to try to impact college acceptances is up there on the dumbest ideas I've heard.

+1

Helicopter and Tiger mom written all over it. WOW.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Moving to try to impact college acceptances is up there on the dumbest ideas I've heard.

So is it easier to get into UVA from Langley or Westfield for the same kid with the same potential and same academic choices and performance?

If your kid is UVA material, it won't matter.

+1 it would be really sad to uproot your family in hopes of a better chance of getting into UVA. if your kid has the requisite scores and GPA they will get in.

Except this is not true. Top 10%. If a 4.5 still puts you in the top 11-20%, no UVA for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

You need a 4.5 1500 out of Langley for UVA unless maybe ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to try to impact college acceptances is up there on the dumbest ideas I've heard.

So is it easier to get into UVA from Langley or Westfield for the same kid with the same potential and same academic choices and performance?

If your kid is UVA material, it won't matter.

+1 it would be really sad to uproot your family in hopes of a better chance of getting into UVA. if your kid has the requisite scores and GPA they will get in.

Except this is not true. Top 10%. If a 4.5 still puts you in the top 11-20%, no UVA for you.

well that is not always true. It was true in my kids school, but we have a friend who was not top 10% in another county school who did get in with a 4.5 and solid scores. HIs school got something like 30+ kids accepted compared to ours which accepted 10 or 11. It was generally understood that this particular class at his school was super strong. Same school one year later is not having anywhere near the same results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

You need a 4.5 1500 out of Langley for UVA unless maybe ED.

For all of the parents on this board who swear that admissions officers do not compare students within a school see evidence above. Your child is competing with students WITHIN their high school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

You need a 4.5 1500 out of Langley for UVA unless maybe ED.

For all of the parents on this board who swear that admissions officers do not compare students within a school see evidence above. Your child is competing with students WITHIN their high school!

I do not disagree with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

Very interesting--thanks! We're also at a "lesser" HS (Falls Church). Would post ours but unfortunately I don't have access yet. Here's my best guess at Oakton from the pic on the other thread:

UVA:
~1475 SAT, 4.42 GPA

VT:
~1370 SAT, 4.18 GPA

W&M:
?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

You need a 4.5 1500 out of Langley for UVA unless maybe ED.

For all of the parents on this board who swear that admissions officers do not compare students within a school see evidence above. Your child is competing with students WITHIN their high school!

I do not disagree with this.

Sorry, not directed at you PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

McLean

UVA 4.4/1480
W&M 4.3/1460

[Anonymous]

Interesting that the required GPAs are very similar but SAT scores wildly different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that the required GPAs are very similar but SAT scores wildly different.

Most likely SATs don’t count for much with admissions but they seem to suggest 4.4 GPA at one school is not the same as at the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that the required GPAs are very similar but SAT scores wildly different.

Most likely SATs don’t count for much with admissions but they seem to suggest 4.4 GPA at one school is not the same as at the other.

Or maybe the 4.4 GPA Mt. Vernon kids would score just as highly if their families had the resources for expensive prep courses and to take the test multiple times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moving to try to impact college acceptances is up there on the dumbest ideas I've heard.

I agree that moving with hopes of impacting college decisions is not a great idea, but moving to impact how well the high school will prepare you for college might not be such a bad one. Here are links to the FCPS school profile test results pages for Westfield, Chantilly and Langley.

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:16:::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:020,0

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:16:::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:250,0

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:16:::NO:0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:240,0

Test scores are probably higher at Langley mostly because the students are stronger, but some of it may have to do with instruction, too. Either way, it's going to be more of an academics-focused experience there.

Look, too, at the 'safe and secure' page, which will give you some idea of the kinds of issues each school faces and how frequent those problems are.

It's interesting to note, too, that Chantilly's student:counselor ratio is under 200:1, while Langley's is about 290. There's probably a reason for that. Westfield is closer to Langley at around 260.

Chantilly is a CSS high school so it has more counseling support available for the students in that program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be really interesting to see a comparison of UVA or VT scattergrams from the different FCPS high schools (similar to what the Oakton poster did in the VA Tech thread). I suspect you'd see some pretty significant differences.

Ok, I'll bite.

My DS is at Mount Vernon HS , the "lowest performing high school in FCPS" according to test scores. Our scattergram for
UVA:
1290 SAT, 4.37 GPA (this is the intersection of the two axis)

VT:
1155 SAT, 3.97 GPA

W&M:
1300 SAT, 4.41 GPA

You're welcome

You need a 4.5 1500 out of Langley for UVA unless maybe ED.

For all of the parents on this board who swear that admissions officers do not compare students within a school see evidence above. Your child is competing with students WITHIN their high school!

I do not disagree with this.

Sorry, not directed at you PP.

No I know - it was a just a general statement in support