What are “average” ECs?

[Anonymous]

I would characterize a kid who had a lot of the ones mentioned as good rather than average. I don’t think average or good matters much snd it makes a difference if there’s a deficiency or you’re in the “great” category.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

[Anonymous]

I’ll never forget the poster with the cool kid and unusual ECs: bag piper and chocolatier! He was at expert level on both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll never forget the poster with the cool kid and unusual ECs: bag piper and chocolatier! He was at expert level on both.

+1. And the taekwondo black belt who started a self-defense program in her high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Regional or National level ECs. Published research. Really big deal stuff that impacts much more than one high school.

One example: the local Girl Scout Council is the largest in the country, with nearly 60,000 members. It is the entire DMV area, plus deeper into MD, VA and parts of WV. There are, I think, 2 student positions on the board. There is an extensive application and interview process.

So for Ivies, the Girl Scout Gold Award would be average, the Gold Award plus a year of service on the GSCNC board of directors would be excellent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

Disagree. That is excellent for UVA, not Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On a team but not captain or varsity letter
No leadership roles
No jobs or heavy volunteering

these are low, not average

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- Any Honor Society with leadership roles - NHS, Spanish, French, Math, Science...
- Any SAT based honor - NMS - Semi-finalist, recommended scholar
- Any school recommended honor - Presidential scholars etc
-Any sports in which you have not excelled and played at V level or had won championships
-Any community service that is not transformative and unique - so all the soup kitchen meal making, playing piano of old people, tutoring disadvantaged kids, making cards for cancer patients, making blankets for animal shelters....
- Any musical instrument playing

Unless you are hooked or rich/networked. Then these things are gold.

just playing an instruction is 1 out of 5

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

Disagree. That is excellent for UVA, not Harvard.

DS actually is at Harvard with absolutely no hooks and Student Body President. Top stats but everyone at Harvard has top stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll never forget the poster with the cool kid and unusual ECs: bag piper and chocolatier! He was at expert level on both.

+1. And the taekwondo black belt who started a self-defense program in her high school.

Yep! I remember those posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

Disagree. That is excellent for UVA, not Harvard.

DS actually is at Harvard with absolutely no hooks and Student Body President. Top stats but everyone at Harvard has top stats.

Student body presidents at St. Albans and GDS this year both just got into Harvard.

Harvard likes leaders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

Disagree. That is excellent for UVA, not Harvard.

DS actually is at Harvard with absolutely no hooks and Student Body President. Top stats but everyone at Harvard has top stats.

Race? Student Body President at school or the district?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

Disagree. That is excellent for UVA, not Harvard.

DS actually is at Harvard with absolutely no hooks and Student Body President. Top stats but everyone at Harvard has top stats.

Congrats! But was student body president considered to be a-f-ing-mazing? Or was it perfectly fine and in line with other qualifications?

To me, excellent ECs can compensate a bit for a 45th percentile SAT or that B- in Calc. Does student body president do that? Or does it just show a consistently strong student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leadership in school club/team is considered average for ivies

Oops, then what is considered excellent?

Student Body President

Nope
Excellent or outstanding is something that does not happen in the high school walls. Anything happening within the four walls of high school is maximum average but more likely a 2