What's the next grouping of schools after T20-30

Anonymous
Why all of these artificial cutoffs. You people sure are ceding a lot of power to a magazine that is trying to see ad space.

I say figure out what your kid wants (size, location, major, social scene, etc). Then, find schools that meet that description. You don't have to disregard rank, but that should not drive the train.

(Read college guides, online reviews, talk to alumni, etc. Really, this is a process, not a contest to see whose kid can attend the lowest ranking according to a magazine! )
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about specific ranking but curious what people consider in the second grouping.

This is our (totally unscientific) dinner table list so far:

Out of Reach, so assume top tier:
Notre Dame, UC, UCLA, UVA, UNC Chapel Hill, CMU, probably Boston College, Georgetown, Emory


Second tier:
Tulane
Villanova
U Miami
Wake Forest
Tufts?
NYU
UGA



CMU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Tufts and Emory all have ~10 admission rates.
UNC is almost impossible OOS.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:WGAF. Jesus DCUM.


Seriously. OP, why don't you just look at US News and be done with it. Google is your friend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about specific ranking but curious what people consider in the second grouping.

This is our (totally unscientific) dinner table list so far:

Out of Reach, so assume top tier:
Notre Dame, UC, UCLA, UVA, UNC Chapel Hill, CMU, probably Boston College, Georgetown, Emory


Second tier:
Tulane
Villanova
U Miami
Wake Forest
Tufts?
NYU
UGA


There's nothing out or Reach about UNC, UVA, And Boston College. These are second their schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about specific ranking but curious what people consider in the second grouping.

This is our (totally unscientific) dinner table list so far:

Out of Reach, so assume top tier:
Notre Dame, UC, UCLA, UVA, UNC Chapel Hill, CMU, probably Boston College, Georgetown, Emory


Second tier:
Tulane
Villanova
U Miami
Wake Forest
Tufts?
NYU
UGA


There's nothing out or Reach about UNC, UVA, And Boston College. These are second their schools.

Whatever tier, they're almost certainly out of reach for my kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about specific ranking but curious what people consider in the second grouping.

This is our (totally unscientific) dinner table list so far:

Out of Reach, so assume top tier:
Notre Dame, UC, UCLA, UVA, UNC Chapel Hill, CMU, probably Boston College, Georgetown, Emory


Second tier:
Tulane
Villanova
U Miami
Wake Forest
Tufts?
NYU
UGA



CMU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Tufts and Emory all have ~10 admission rates.
UNC is almost impossible OOS.

Tufts and UNC are second tier. The others are top 20
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why all of these artificial cutoffs. You people sure are ceding a lot of power to a magazine that is trying to see ad space.

I say figure out what your kid wants (size, location, major, social scene, etc). Then, find schools that meet that description. You don't have to disregard rank, but that should not drive the train.

(Read college guides, online reviews, talk to alumni, etc. Really, this is a process, not a contest to see whose kid can attend the lowest ranking according to a magazine! )

I think that's why this post was different. Ceding defeat to the "Top Tier" but still very interested in what DCUM considers the next bucket of college, not an enumerated list parroting USNWR.
Anonymous
Lehigh
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about specific ranking but curious what people consider in the second grouping.

This is our (totally unscientific) dinner table list so far:

Out of Reach, so assume top tier:
Notre Dame, UC, UCLA, UVA, UNC Chapel Hill, CMU, probably Boston College, Georgetown, Emory


Second tier:
Tulane
Villanova
U Miami
Wake Forest
Tufts?
NYU
UGA


There's nothing out or Reach about UNC, UVA, And Boston College. These are second their schools.


Sure, we'll take your opinion, Anonymous Poster who struggles with capitalization and spelling, over the actual facts that make all of these schools out of reach for 80-90% of the students who seek admission to them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about specific ranking but curious what people consider in the second grouping.

This is our (totally unscientific) dinner table list so far:

Out of Reach, so assume top tier:
Notre Dame, UC, UCLA, UVA, UNC Chapel Hill, CMU, probably Boston College, Georgetown, Emory


Second tier:
Tulane
Villanova
U Miami
Wake Forest
Tufts?
NYU
UGA


There's nothing out or Reach about UNC, UVA, And Boston College. These are second their schools.


Sure, we'll take your opinion, Anonymous Poster who struggles with capitalization and spelling, over the actual facts that make all of these schools out of reach for 80-90% of the students who seek admission to them

Yes with acceptance rates in the 20's, and rankings in the high 20's. They aren't first tier. When has BC ever been considered a top school? Honestly when asking people top school stops at about Emory/CMu/UCLA. UVA doesn't raise eyebrows if you tell people DC went there.
Anonymous
CMU is technically top 20
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CMU is technically top 20

It's ranked 25 on USNews and 21 on WSJ. It technically isn't but socially it is. UVA not so much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Bonus points if anyone can say what comes after 50


51?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know, I know! T40 - 50?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CMU is technically top 20


CMU CS is actually top 10
CMU Business is actually top 20
CMU Engineering maybe?

Other majors not so much
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