Beware of Johns Hopkins Fertility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like to extend this warning to any RE who has trained at Hopkins.

+1

Hopkins is all about Hopkins. They are not there for you.

Viewed from within, it is a very unusual little bubble Hopkins created for itself.

Agreed. It's a bubble and a shoddy one at that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like to extend this warning to any RE who has trained at Hopkins.

+1

Hopkins is all about Hopkins. They are not there for you.

Viewed from within, it is a very unusual little bubble Hopkins created for itself.

Agreed. It's a bubble and a shoddy one at that.

DP. OMG! Hopkins Greenspring Station are the absolute worst.

[Anonymous]

We are moving to a different clinic. This place is terrible.

[Anonymous]

We had multiple cycles and they all failed at Hopkins Greenspring. We went to SG and it worked the first time.

[Anonymous]

yuck

[Anonymous]

We adopted after several failed attempts at Hopkins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm talking to a lawyer now and plan to sue JHU's fertility lab for negligence.

on what grounds? not a JH patient but how can you prove that the fertility lab was negligent?

we believe there are missing embryos

That is a Fing nightmare. I had something similar happen (a C section isthmocele that came and went on ultrasounds, but it was definitely there on the repeat C!). You are not crazy and do not let them gaslight you. I specifically requested my FET notes where the wonderful RE blurted out he saw it and never got the records, never relayed that top secret medical condition to my care providers. I too am exploring legal options. I hope you locate your missing embryos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm talking to a lawyer now and plan to sue JHU's fertility lab for negligence.

on what grounds? not a JH patient but how can you prove that the fertility lab was negligent?

we believe there are missing embryos

That is a Fing nightmare. I had something similar happen (a C section isthmocele that came and went on ultrasounds, but it was definitely there on the repeat C!). You are not crazy and do not let them gaslight you. I specifically requested my FET notes where the wonderful RE blurted out he saw it and never got the records, never relayed that top secret medical condition to my care providers. I too am exploring legal options. I hope you locate your missing embryos.

DP here. Hopkins fertility is really a F'ing nightmare. If you get treatment there - and if you are successful - I would invest in a genetic test to ensure they did in fact put the right embryo into your body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm talking to a lawyer now and plan to sue JHU's fertility lab for negligence.

on what grounds? not a JH patient but how can you prove that the fertility lab was negligent?

we believe there are missing embryos

That is a Fing nightmare. I had something similar happen (a C section isthmocele that came and went on ultrasounds, but it was definitely there on the repeat C!). You are not crazy and do not let them gaslight you. I specifically requested my FET notes where the wonderful RE blurted out he saw it and never got the records, never relayed that top secret medical condition to my care providers. I too am exploring legal options. I hope you locate your missing embryos.

DP here. Hopkins fertility is really a F'ing nightmare. If you get treatment there - and if you are successful - I would invest in a genetic test to ensure they did in fact put the right embryo into your body.

Hi. I came across something that might help you. If you have 3rd party insurance order the payment history and examine the billing codes for inconsistencies. Cross check them against your records. If your clinic sent your records anywhere, or they were sent from somewhere, order copies and compare documents. They also like to release "decoy" documents. You need to specifically ask for the good stuff. E.g. embryologist report. I know my embryos each have a photo. Examine dates for discrepancies

[Anonymous]

We just left Hopkins for this same reason. The place is shockingly terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just left Hopkins for this same reason. The place is shockingly terrible.

Multiple failed attempts. Buyer beware!

[Anonymous]

I was warned off JHU when I was looking for fertility services in Baltimore (ended up at Shady Grove, which is a factory (efficient and impersonal) but got the job done.

[Anonymous]

I can’t speak for Hopkins clerical efficacy or employee morale personally, but it sucks to disperse clinical misinformation.
Multiple failed attempts and then success “on the first try” elsewhere is not an objective indication that a clinic is of poor caliber.
I’ve also heard people say they failed multiple times elsewhere “only to then succeed at CCRM.” The reality is, that success is rooted in the NUMBER of attempts (by the third, fourth, or fifth try). Multiple attempts increases odds no matter where the successful attempt ends up being. Most people statistically don’t succeed on the first try, anywhere. If it ever appears on paper as if they do, it’s because of batching multiple cycles and then transferring once normal embryos are identified. If your friend succeeded on their first try at SG after failure elsewhere, it’s more likely due to being the 2+ attempt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t speak for Hopkins clerical efficacy or employee morale personally, but it sucks to disperse clinical misinformation.
Multiple failed attempts and then success “on the first try” elsewhere is not an objective indication that a clinic is of poor caliber.
I’ve also heard people say they failed multiple times elsewhere “only to then succeed at CCRM.” The reality is, that success is rooted in the NUMBER of attempts (by the third, fourth, or fifth try). Multiple attempts increases odds no matter where the successful attempt ends up being. Most people statistically don’t succeed on the first try, anywhere. If it ever appears on paper as if they do, it’s because of batching multiple cycles and then transferring once normal embryos are identified. If your friend succeeded on their first try at SG after failure elsewhere, it’s more likely due to being the 2+ attempt.

Sounds like Hopkins staff is posting now. You do realize that Hopkins has some of the LOWEST success rates in Maryland? Check out the ART success rates from the CDC.

DP.

I agree: probably a defensive JHU employee posting.

I worked for JHU for years (though not in their fertility clinic). However, their poor attitude and arrogance is pervasive throughout the institution.

My recommendation is to avoid JHU.

Plus - didn’t they just drop a major insurance carrier ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t speak for Hopkins clerical efficacy or employee morale personally, but it sucks to disperse clinical misinformation.
Multiple failed attempts and then success “on the first try” elsewhere is not an objective indication that a clinic is of poor caliber.
I’ve also heard people say they failed multiple times elsewhere “only to then succeed at CCRM.” The reality is, that success is rooted in the NUMBER of attempts (by the third, fourth, or fifth try). Multiple attempts increases odds no matter where the successful attempt ends up being. Most people statistically don’t succeed on the first try, anywhere. If it ever appears on paper as if they do, it’s because of batching multiple cycles and then transferring once normal embryos are identified. If your friend succeeded on their first try at SG after failure elsewhere, it’s more likely due to being the 2+ attempt.

Sounds like Hopkins staff is posting now. You do realize that Hopkins has some of the LOWEST success rates in Maryland? Check out the ART success rates from the CDC.

DP.

I agree: probably a defensive JHU employee posting.

I worked for JHU for years (though not in their fertility clinic). However, their poor attitude and arrogance is pervasive throughout the institution.

My recommendation is to avoid JHU.

Plus - didn’t they just drop a major insurance carrier ?

There are problems with JHU, but their dropping BCBS isn’t one of them — they are standing up to a bully, and are one of the few institutions that can.