New Defender

[Anonymous]

What is the point of the grey square in the middle of the rear windows? Are they just trying to be unique? This should have been an amazing car, but it looks like the designers did their job, presented it and were told 'add something more' over and over again. It's just ridiculously overdone

[Anonymous]

I don’t love the look of it and hate that they left out so many references to the original that could have been included. I was also disappointed at how small the interior feels. That said, it drives amazing. My BIL got one and it’s fun. Waiting on the 7 seater Range Rover - hope they don’t screw up that design

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of the grey square in the middle of the rear windows? Are they just trying to be unique? This should have been an amazing car, but it looks like the designers did their job, presented it and were told 'add something more' over and over again. It's just ridiculously overdone

I think it's called a "floating pillar" - I think you can add a gear box or ladder to it.

Seems like it'd block visibility though...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t love the look of it and hate that they left out so many references to the original that could have been included. I was also disappointed at how small the interior feels. That said, it drives amazing. My BIL got one and it’s fun. Waiting on the 7 seater Range Rover - hope they don’t screw up that design

Yes - this is my biggest issue with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

If you like the vehicle, why let a minority (albeit a growing one) of the other owners deter you?

The negative associations would ruin it for me. Seeing them drive around town every day with their DB license plates makes me cringe every time.

Actually, my bigger association with Wranglers is that the dumb girls in HS used to drive them. So I've always had an issue with them.

M’eh.... don’t let other people’s perceptions influence you, especially regarding something you’d otherwise find enjoyable. Do you really care about meeting the approval of everyone who thinks “serious people” drive a Tesla or Audi Q5/7?

F’ that noise. I do what I want.

I don't care about being "serious" or whatever. But I definitely don't want to be lumped in with the MAGAs!

Weird association... I think you have other issues.

At any rate, don’t get a Jeep. You’re not worthy of one.

[Anonymous]

I know right - cars (or in this case massive SUVs) aren't about transportation!

They are about looking cool and compensating and signalling status!

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

If you like the vehicle, why let a minority (albeit a growing one) of the other owners deter you?

The negative associations would ruin it for me. Seeing them drive around town every day with their DB license plates makes me cringe every time.

Actually, my bigger association with Wranglers is that the dumb girls in HS used to drive them. So I've always had an issue with them.

M’eh.... don’t let other people’s perceptions influence you, especially regarding something you’d otherwise find enjoyable. Do you really care about meeting the approval of everyone who thinks “serious people” drive a Tesla or Audi Q5/7?

F’ that noise. I do what I want.

I don't care about being "serious" or whatever. But I definitely don't want to be lumped in with the MAGAs!

Weird association... I think you have other issues.

At any rate, don’t get a Jeep. You’re not worthy of one.

That’s who drives them in our area. Pass.