New Defender

[Anonymous]

I had so much hope for the new Defender and was very disappointed when it finally came out. Today, I realized why I don’t like it - it looks like the old boxy CRV or RAV4. Bleh.

[Anonymous]

Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

Talk about co opted by DB’s!

The Waggy needs wood grain doors and fenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

Talk about co opted by DB’s!

The Waggy needs wood grain doors and fenders.

I know. DBs galore. Maybe no good option.

Are they ever going to do the woody on the waggy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

Talk about co opted by DB’s!

The Waggy needs wood grain doors and fenders.

I know. DBs galore. Maybe no good option.

Are they ever going to do the woody on the waggy?

If I had one, I’d have it done custom. Either in real veneer, or maybe a wrap if the real wood wouldn’t last due to weathering. But a Waggy needs wood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

The Bronco has personality, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

If you like the vehicle, why let a minority (albeit a growing one) of the other owners deter you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

If you like the vehicle, why let a minority (albeit a growing one) of the other owners deter you?

The negative associations would ruin it for me. Seeing them drive around town every day with their DB license plates makes me cringe every time.

Actually, my bigger association with Wranglers is that the dumb girls in HS used to drive them. So I've always had an issue with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

If you like the vehicle, why let a minority (albeit a growing one) of the other owners deter you?

The negative associations would ruin it for me. Seeing them drive around town every day with their DB license plates makes me cringe every time.

Actually, my bigger association with Wranglers is that the dumb girls in HS used to drive them. So I've always had an issue with them.

M’eh.... don’t let other people’s perceptions influence you, especially regarding something you’d otherwise find enjoyable. Do you really care about meeting the approval of everyone who thinks “serious people” drive a Tesla or Audi Q5/7?

F’ that noise. I do what I want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had so much hope for the new Defender and was very disappointed when it finally came out. Today, I realized why I don’t like it - it looks like the old boxy CRV or RAV4. Bleh.

What's up with the pair of mini square lights on each side of the rear? They look so dumb!

[Anonymous]

I think they look pretty cool. I’ll wait for the R1S though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had so much hope for the new Defender and was very disappointed when it finally came out. Today, I realized why I don’t like it - it looks like the old boxy CRV or RAV4. Bleh.

What's up with the pair of mini square lights on each side of the rear? They look so dumb!

Those are the back up lights.

Horribly done. They look like they were afterthoughts. Like they forgot to include them in the original design, and had a kid from the local Pep Boys cobble together some kind of add-on.

I can imagine there are other such issues with the rest of the vehicle.

[Anonymous]

Of course there are. It is a Land Rover, after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, it has ZERO character. None. Zip.

Wranglers are the only SUV’s being made now that have any appearance of character.

Yes. Sooo boring.

The Wagoneer was also a big let-down. Just looks like a bloated Cherokee Expedition love child.

Wranglers have been co-opted by DBs so will have to pass on those.

I guess there is the G wagon but that seems…excessive. Maybe I’ll test drive.

If you like the vehicle, why let a minority (albeit a growing one) of the other owners deter you?

The negative associations would ruin it for me. Seeing them drive around town every day with their DB license plates makes me cringe every time.

Actually, my bigger association with Wranglers is that the dumb girls in HS used to drive them. So I've always had an issue with them.

M’eh.... don’t let other people’s perceptions influence you, especially regarding something you’d otherwise find enjoyable. Do you really care about meeting the approval of everyone who thinks “serious people” drive a Tesla or Audi Q5/7?

F’ that noise. I do what I want.

I don't care about being "serious" or whatever. But I definitely don't want to be lumped in with the MAGAs!