Urgent Care- Unauthorized Pregnancy Test

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem crazy to me that for gastro issues they need to rule out pregnancy


Have to agree here.


Then they should have had a discussion with the patient. If the patient hasn't had sex in a year, you can rule out pregnancy. You don't get to just run whatever test you want, particularly when the patient specifically asked.



But the patient will lie. And the doctor gets sued for harming a baby he didn’t know was on there.


If you take your car into the shop and the mechanic asks when you last changed the oil and you say yesterday, they don't get to change it again and charge you. They ran a test that they profited off of in the basis that the patient was lying. I would dispute the bill and if pushed I would complain to the state board about unauthorized tests


They didn't change the oil. The used a dipstick to check.
Anonymous
This is (unfortunately or not) common.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem crazy to me that for gastro issues they need to rule out pregnancy


Have to agree here.


Then they should have had a discussion with the patient. If the patient hasn't had sex in a year, you can rule out pregnancy. You don't get to just run whatever test you want, particularly when the patient specifically asked.


But she didn’t specifically ask.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is (unfortunately or not) common.


Doesn't make it right just because it's common. Not snarky towards you PP, just adding on to your comment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is (unfortunately or not) common.


Doesn't make it right just because it's common. Not snarky towards you PP, just adding on to your comment.


OP, are you a man? You sound like a man. This reminds me of the guy who said the Covid test was the most traumatic medical test he'd ever had and all the women on Twitter laughing themselves breathless. You just seem way too disconnected from reality to be a woman, and like you care more about being "taken for a ride" for $37 than your daughter getting appropriate care.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I recently had surgery and was told they would need to give me a pregnancy test. I had my tubes cut years ago, but it's just standard practice.


See now this sounds like a money grab to me. Seems like a waiver of some kind should be included where if you answer NO, and you are pregnant that you release all liability with that particular practitioner.


While it’s highly unlikely, pregnancy is possible. Given the risks to a patient for an ectopic pregnancy and the risks of certain medication, the test may be medication calls necessary despite tubes having been cut and if it’s medically necessary, it would be malpractice not to do it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem crazy to me that for gastro issues they need to rule out pregnancy


Have to agree here.


Then they should have had a discussion with the patient. If the patient hasn't had sex in a year, you can rule out pregnancy. You don't get to just run whatever test you want, particularly when the patient specifically asked.



But the patient will lie. And the doctor gets sued for harming a baby he didn’t know was on there.


If you take your car into the shop and the mechanic asks when you last changed the oil and you say yesterday, they don't get to change it again and charge you. They ran a test that they profited off of in the basis that the patient was lying. I would dispute the bill and if pushed I would complain to the state board about unauthorized tests


Lots of people find out they are pregnant in the ER. It’s not always that the patient is lying. It would be completely irresponsible to do many things (X-rays, meds, etc.) without knwing if a woman of child bearing age is pregnant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem crazy to me that for gastro issues they need to rule out pregnancy


Have to agree here.


Then they should have had a discussion with the patient. If the patient hasn't had sex in a year, you can rule out pregnancy. You don't get to just run whatever test you want, particularly when the patient specifically asked.


I don't think you can rule it out just bc the patient *says* they haven't had sex in a year. But I agree that they should have at least told her what they were doing. Patients should always have the ability to refuse test/treatment (even if it means not getting treated at all at that location).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is (unfortunately or not) common.


Doesn't make it right just because it's common. Not snarky towards you PP, just adding on to your comment.


OP, are you a man? You sound like a man. This reminds me of the guy who said the Covid test was the most traumatic medical test he'd ever had and all the women on Twitter laughing themselves breathless. You just seem way too disconnected from reality to be a woman, and like you care more about being "taken for a ride" for $37 than your daughter getting appropriate care.


DP. This is off topic, but I gave birth last week to my third child and the extremely invasive COVID swab was the most painful part of the entire experience. My sinuses hurt for hours afterwards!

To OP's question, even if it's necessary for care, in my view they should have disclosed it up front. It's messed up that tests and in some cases medical procedures can be performed on people without their informed consent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem crazy to me that for gastro issues they need to rule out pregnancy


Have to agree here.


Then they should have had a discussion with the patient. If the patient hasn't had sex in a year, you can rule out pregnancy. You don't get to just run whatever test you want, particularly when the patient specifically asked.


I’ve had patients who had never had sex- not once, I swear! - have positive pregnancy tests. I then counseled patient and parent (patient was 17) that if it wasn’t pregnancy then it was some sort of GYN-oncology process causing an elevated hcg. Patient still swore it couldn’t be pregnancy- never!!

Spoiler alert, she was pregnant. Good thing I didn’t X-ray her abdomen for her abdominal complaints without verifying.
Anonymous
As a mom to two young adults girls, I would have been super pissed had they not run a pregnancy test for gastro symptoms. WTF? When they draw your blood, do they explain every single individual test? Of course not.
Anonymous
Serious question: what did you think the urine test was? They told her they were testing her urine, so of course a test was going to be on the bill. I think dad's upset because he feels like by testing for pregnancy they're calling his princess impure or something, but running a bacterial or fungal culture would have been significantly more expensive than a pregnancy test. And some kind of test was happening, they told her that up front.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a mom to two young adults girls, I would have been super pissed had they not run a pregnancy test for gastro symptoms. WTF? When they draw your blood, do they explain every single individual test? Of course not.


Exactly. They should tell her what they are doing, but people need to let the doctors treat the patients. It seems common sense to me to run a pregnancy test on a patient complaining of gastro issues. Could easily be an ectopic pregnancy or a miscarriage. People also define "having sex" differently. I got pregnant at 17 and we never even had intercourse.
Anonymous
Another explanation for why they might do this under the radar is IPV and trauma. Some women who are victims of DV may be under the sway of a controlling partner. Some people who experience a trauma, such as rape, can be in complete denial but the pain will surface in other parts of the body. It happens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem crazy to me that for gastro issues they need to rule out pregnancy


Have to agree here.


Then they should have had a discussion with the patient. If the patient hasn't had sex in a year, you can rule out pregnancy. You don't get to just run whatever test you want, particularly when the patient specifically asked.



But the patient will lie. And the doctor gets sued for harming a baby he didn’t know was on there.


If you take your car into the shop and the mechanic asks when you last changed the oil and you say yesterday, they don't get to change it again and charge you. They ran a test that they profited off of in the basis that the patient was lying. I would dispute the bill and if pushed I would complain to the state board about unauthorized tests


They didn't change the oil. The used a dipstick to check.


This.
“Something is wrong with my engine.”
“When’s the last time you changed your oil?”
“Yesterday”
“Okay, then we will take your word and not check your oil, we will instead do a procedure on your engine based on blind trust , trick is though, it will ruin your engine if your oil is low, but since you just changed it, we won’t even check it. Also, don’t sue us when we destroy your engine because we didn’t check the oil.”
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