Can we spreadload FRL% across APS? Arlington / Education Newbie here

[Anonymous]

The northern part of the county is very hard to access by public transit, so there is no appetite to bus poor kids to a school like Jamestown. They even have a hard time filling up the VPI classrooms there (VPI = VA preschool initiative = free or sliding scale cost preschool for low income kids) because it's hard for low income parents to get to/from the school, so they are less likely to accept spots there.

When you're talking about communities that may not have cars and want to be able to walk or ride public transit to their kids' schools, you don't get a lot of support for busing those kids to far away schools with low FRL %.

And if you want to bus the rich kids to the high FRL schools, you'll just get a huge switch to private.

The option schools end up having a good balance of FRL rates. But neighborhood schools don't. And the vast majority of parents of ALL income levels want neighborhood schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because Arlington is committed to affordable housing but will only build it in S Arlington where land is cheapest and people don't fight it.

Because we won't bus.

Because poverty in Arlington is all about geography.

I agree with some of this, but the County Board is also working towards a making the schools near Rosslyn high poverty. The far north will stay segregated. They won’t touch it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This, with the finger pointing between the county board and school board, is spot on. And the Arlington County Democrats control both boards and that won’t change as long as school board candidates (which are supposed to be nonpartisan) are endorsed by political parties. Every time you vote Democrat/status quo, you are voting for these policies.

Right, because Republicans have shown how much they care about socioeconomic justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This, with the finger pointing between the county board and school board, is spot on. And the Arlington County Democrats control both boards and that won’t change as long as school board candidates (which are supposed to be nonpartisan) are endorsed by political parties. Every time you vote Democrat/status quo, you are voting for these policies.

Right, because Republicans have shown how much they care about socioeconomic justice.

I had the independent and libertarian candidates in mind. You know that just because you’re not a Democrat doesn’t mean you’re a Republican, right?

[Anonymous]

Because redlining. Cue the MONA pearl clutching.

Put AH in North Arlington. Moratorium on AH in SA.

All of the APAH folks live in NA. Most of CB too. Good luck with your advocacy.

Better luck opening a private school in Arlington. Put it along 50. You will succeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because redlining. Cue the MONA pearl clutching.

Put AH in North Arlington. Moratorium on AH in SA.

All of the APAH folks live in NA. Most of CB too. Good luck with your advocacy.

Better luck opening a private school in Arlington. Put it along 50. You will succeed.

Yep and they live in the specific parts of North Arlington that are outside things like Plan Lee Highway and AH. It’s laughable how their beloved polices don’t affect them at all but the rest of us are expected to jump on board or we are bad people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This, with the finger pointing between the county board and school board, is spot on. And the Arlington County Democrats control both boards and that won’t change as long as school board candidates (which are supposed to be nonpartisan) are endorsed by political parties. Every time you vote Democrat/status quo, you are voting for these policies.

Right, because Republicans have shown how much they care about socioeconomic justice.

I had the independent and libertarian candidates in mind. You know that just because you’re not a Democrat doesn’t mean you’re a Republican, right?

Independent candidate in Arlington candidate who wasn't just a crypto-Republican.

And you know no Libertarian is going to offer government intervention as a way to balance ED%, unless it's by getting rid of ED populations or not offering FRM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This, with the finger pointing between the county board and school board, is spot on. And the Arlington County Democrats control both boards and that won’t change as long as school board candidates (which are supposed to be nonpartisan) are endorsed by political parties. Every time you vote Democrat/status quo, you are voting for these policies.

Right, because Republicans have shown how much they care about socioeconomic justice.

I had the independent and libertarian candidates in mind. You know that just because you’re not a Democrat doesn’t mean you’re a Republican, right?

Independent candidate in Arlington candidate who wasn't just a crypto-Republican.

And you know no Libertarian is going to offer government intervention as a way to balance ED%, unless it's by getting rid of ED populations or not offering FRM.

You sound really paranoid. You know that the Board will always be a far-left Democratic majority. No harm comes from having a different voice chime in and it wouldn’t be a Republican. It would be good for all of us. I recognize the value in people challenging my opinions and I’m always suspicious of people who can’t handle other ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You sound really paranoid. You know that the Board will always be a far-left Democratic majority. No harm comes from having a different voice chime in and it wouldn’t be a Republican. It would be good for all of us. I recognize the value in people challenging my opinions and I’m always suspicious of people who can’t handle other ideas.

Oh you sweet sheltered thing -- Arlington's ruling party is in no way "far-left." I wish it were, but nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the feedback. I still think not studying this is so short sighted. At least throw some analytical data behind it, do some polls of different populations, put together a cost benefit analysis.

Wow. you ARE new to Arlington.
The dead horse has been beaten repeatedly. The bottom line is: Arlington County as a whole does not care about socioeconomic integration. People do not want all schools the same. County Board (responsible for housing and transportation and zoning policies) points fingers to School Board in charge of schools. School Board points fingers at County Board blaming housing patterns and policies while refusing to entertain ranked-choice admission policies or anything increasing bus transportation costs and threatening the re-electability of members.

But I'd love to have a new wave of energetic advocates give it a go; so please pick up the mantel and carry on! Good luck.

This, with the finger pointing between the county board and school board, is spot on. And the Arlington County Democrats control both boards and that won’t change as long as school board candidates (which are supposed to be nonpartisan) are endorsed by political parties. Every time you vote Democrat/status quo, you are voting for these policies.

Because Republicans or Independents are going to come in and do anything differently?

The Dems in charge know that parents really don't want this. The end. They are politicians.

And by the way, the parents in the high FRL schools don't want it either. They also want their neighborhood schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because redlining. Cue the MONA pearl clutching.

Put AH in North Arlington. Moratorium on AH in SA.

All of the APAH folks live in NA. Most of CB too. Good luck with your advocacy.

Better luck opening a private school in Arlington. Put it along 50. You will succeed.

This is correct. And this continues to happen because Democrats don't care about socioeconomic justice. If they did, why does this problem exist? it exists, because they don't care...

[Anonymous]

Are the past survey results published? Can anyone point me to them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because redlining. Cue the MONA pearl clutching.

Put AH in North Arlington. Moratorium on AH in SA.

All of the APAH folks live in NA. Most of CB too. Good luck with your advocacy.

Better luck opening a private school in Arlington. Put it along 50. You will succeed.

agree with this

-NA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You sound really paranoid. You know that the Board will always be a far-left Democratic majority. No harm comes from having a different voice chime in and it wouldn’t be a Republican. It would be good for all of us. I recognize the value in people challenging my opinions and I’m always suspicious of people who can’t handle other ideas.

Oh you sweet sheltered thing -- Arlington's ruling party is in no way "far-left." I wish it were, but nope.

I think they are more than a little left of center but I guess it’s all a matter of perspective. Either way it’s not a good environment IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because redlining. Cue the MONA pearl clutching.

Put AH in North Arlington. Moratorium on AH in SA.

All of the APAH folks live in NA. Most of CB too. Good luck with your advocacy.

Better luck opening a private school in Arlington. Put it along 50. You will succeed.

This is correct. And this continues to happen because Democrats don't care about socioeconomic justice. If they did, why does this problem exist? it exists, because they don't care...

Agree they have been in charge in Arlington for decades…