DC Pedestrian Safety

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does anyone know this was the driver's fault?


A driver who was turning right from Biltmore St NW onto Columbia Rd NW, at 3:30 pm on a Saturday, struck and killed a 24-year-old woman who was crossing Columbia Rd NW. And you want to talk about whether the driver was at fault? Really?


You don't actually know who was at fault. It's impossible to tell from the media accounts. Don't pretend you know what happened because you don't.


If you can't avoid hitting and killing a person in Adams Morgan on a Saturday afternoon, REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, you should not have a driver's license.
Anonymous
The deceased was dragged really far according to eyewitnesses. No way the driver wasn’t speeding. That’s a really busy crosswalk.
Anonymous
Also, even if the driver did everything right and this still happened (which I doubt), shouldn’t we still want measures to be taken to prevent someone else from being killed? My god.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does anyone know this was the driver's fault?


A driver who was turning right from Biltmore St NW onto Columbia Rd NW, at 3:30 pm on a Saturday, struck and killed a 24-year-old woman who was crossing Columbia Rd NW. And you want to talk about whether the driver was at fault? Really?


You don't actually know who was at fault. It's impossible to tell from the media accounts. Don't pretend you know what happened because you don't.


If you can't avoid hitting and killing a person in Adams Morgan on a Saturday afternoon, REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, you should not have a driver's license.



That's obviously silly. There are accidents where the driver was at fault. There are accidents where the pedestrian was at fault. There are accidents where no one was at fault. It depends on the particular circumstances of the incident.
Anonymous
I can tell you right now, likely the only "correct" thing that driver did was stay at the scene and call police.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does anyone know this was the driver's fault?


A driver who was turning right from Biltmore St NW onto Columbia Rd NW, at 3:30 pm on a Saturday, struck and killed a 24-year-old woman who was crossing Columbia Rd NW. And you want to talk about whether the driver was at fault? Really?


You don't actually know who was at fault. It's impossible to tell from the media accounts. Don't pretend you know what happened because you don't.


If you can't avoid hitting and killing a person in Adams Morgan on a Saturday afternoon, REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, you should not have a driver's license.


That's obviously silly. There are accidents where the driver was at fault. There are accidents where the pedestrian was at fault. There are accidents where no one was at fault. It depends on the particular circumstances of the incident.


No, it's obviously obvious. It's your duty as driver to not hit pedestrians. And not just on a busy city street on a Saturday afternoon, but always. We are talking about streets that people don't get killed on, and you're talking about, "Hey, maybe the pedestrian was at fault!"
Anonymous
pretty gross how the bicyclist crowd always tries to exploit the death of people in accidents...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:pretty gross how the bicyclist crowd always tries to exploit the death of people in accidents...


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:pretty gross how the bicyclist crowd always tries to exploit the death of people in accidents...

Actually, I am not only not a bicyclist, I hate bicyclists because I think, at least in DC, they are reckless. I also think this driver was likely extremely reckless, to not only hit a young woman in broad daylight but to drag her a couple hundred feet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does anyone know this was the driver's fault?


A driver who was turning right from Biltmore St NW onto Columbia Rd NW, at 3:30 pm on a Saturday, struck and killed a 24-year-old woman who was crossing Columbia Rd NW. And you want to talk about whether the driver was at fault? Really?


You don't actually know who was at fault. It's impossible to tell from the media accounts. Don't pretend you know what happened because you don't.


If you can't avoid hitting and killing a person in Adams Morgan on a Saturday afternoon, REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, you should not have a driver's license.


That's obviously silly. There are accidents where the driver was at fault. There are accidents where the pedestrian was at fault. There are accidents where no one was at fault. It depends on the particular circumstances of the incident.


No, it's obviously obvious. It's your duty as driver to not hit pedestrians. And not just on a busy city street on a Saturday afternoon, but always. We are talking about streets that people don't get killed on, and you're talking about, "Hey, maybe the pedestrian was at fault!"



It's so crazy how you know exactly what happened here, despite not witnessing the accident. Perhaps you should call the police and tell their investigators that they can stand down on this one, because you figured it all out while surfing the web in your mom's basement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


It's so crazy how you know exactly what happened here, despite not witnessing the accident. Perhaps you should call the police and tell their investigators that they can stand down on this one, because you figured it all out while surfing the web in your mom's basement.


“Detectives with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Major Crash Investigations Unit are investigating a traffic fatality resulting from a traffic crash that occurred on Saturday, November 13, 2021, at Columbia Road and Biltmore Street, Northwest.

The preliminary investigation revealed, at approximately 3:30 pm, a pedestrian was crossing the street from north to south in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest. An Infinity EX35 was traveling westbound in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest, and had just crossed over Biltmore Street, Northwest, when it struck the pedestrian. The pedestrian was trapped under the vehicle until being treated by DC Fire and Emergency Medical Services.

The victim was transported to local hospital for treatment of their injuries, where despite all life-saving efforts, the victim was pronounced dead.

The decedent has been identified as 24 year-old Nina Larson, of New Canaan, CT.

Anyone who has knowledge of this incident should call police at (202) 727-9099 or text your tip to the Department’s TEXT TIP LINE at 50411.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


It's so crazy how you know exactly what happened here, despite not witnessing the accident. Perhaps you should call the police and tell their investigators that they can stand down on this one, because you figured it all out while surfing the web in your mom's basement.


“Detectives with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Major Crash Investigations Unit are investigating a traffic fatality resulting from a traffic crash that occurred on Saturday, November 13, 2021, at Columbia Road and Biltmore Street, Northwest.

The preliminary investigation revealed, at approximately 3:30 pm, a pedestrian was crossing the street from north to south in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest. An Infinity EX35 was traveling westbound in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest, and had just crossed over Biltmore Street, Northwest, when it struck the pedestrian. The pedestrian was trapped under the vehicle until being treated by DC Fire and Emergency Medical Services.

The victim was transported to local hospital for treatment of their injuries, where despite all life-saving efforts, the victim was pronounced dead.

The decedent has been identified as 24 year-old Nina Larson, of New Canaan, CT.

Anyone who has knowledge of this incident should call police at (202) 727-9099 or text your tip to the Department’s TEXT TIP LINE at 50411.”



You can't cite anyone based on this. This is just saying there was an accident. It doesnt say who was at fault. That's what the investigators are supposed to be figuring out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


It's so crazy how you know exactly what happened here, despite not witnessing the accident. Perhaps you should call the police and tell their investigators that they can stand down on this one, because you figured it all out while surfing the web in your mom's basement.


“Detectives with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Major Crash Investigations Unit are investigating a traffic fatality resulting from a traffic crash that occurred on Saturday, November 13, 2021, at Columbia Road and Biltmore Street, Northwest.

The preliminary investigation revealed, at approximately 3:30 pm, a pedestrian was crossing the street from north to south in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest. An Infinity EX35 was traveling westbound in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest, and had just crossed over Biltmore Street, Northwest, when it struck the pedestrian. The pedestrian was trapped under the vehicle until being treated by DC Fire and Emergency Medical Services.

The victim was transported to local hospital for treatment of their injuries, where despite all life-saving efforts, the victim was pronounced dead.

The decedent has been identified as 24 year-old Nina Larson, of New Canaan, CT.

Anyone who has knowledge of this incident should call police at (202) 727-9099 or text your tip to the Department’s TEXT TIP LINE at 50411.”



You can't cite anyone based on this. This is just saying there was an accident. It doesnt say who was at fault. That's what the investigators are supposed to be figuring out.


I'm not interested in citing anyone. I'm interested in streets that people don't get killed on and drivers who don't kill people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:pretty gross how the bicyclist crowd always tries to exploit the death of people in accidents...



This is their go-to move. They blame cars for everything, try to make it seem like reckless drivers are omnipresent, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


It's so crazy how you know exactly what happened here, despite not witnessing the accident. Perhaps you should call the police and tell their investigators that they can stand down on this one, because you figured it all out while surfing the web in your mom's basement.


“Detectives with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Major Crash Investigations Unit are investigating a traffic fatality resulting from a traffic crash that occurred on Saturday, November 13, 2021, at Columbia Road and Biltmore Street, Northwest.

The preliminary investigation revealed, at approximately 3:30 pm, a pedestrian was crossing the street from north to south in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest. An Infinity EX35 was traveling westbound in the 1800 block of Columbia Road, Northwest, and had just crossed over Biltmore Street, Northwest, when it struck the pedestrian. The pedestrian was trapped under the vehicle until being treated by DC Fire and Emergency Medical Services.

The victim was transported to local hospital for treatment of their injuries, where despite all life-saving efforts, the victim was pronounced dead.

The decedent has been identified as 24 year-old Nina Larson, of New Canaan, CT.

Anyone who has knowledge of this incident should call police at (202) 727-9099 or text your tip to the Department’s TEXT TIP LINE at 50411.”



You can't cite anyone based on this. This is just saying there was an accident. It doesnt say who was at fault. That's what the investigators are supposed to be figuring out.


I'm not interested in citing anyone. I'm interested in streets that people don't get killed on and drivers who don't kill people.


I am interested in this magical place you're creating. When you get done banning people from having accidents, could you also create bicyclists who don't ignore all traffic laws?
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