When Will MCPS Quarantine Rules Change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I thought herd immunity was the goal. Is the goal now to have zero cases?

103 positive cases. Out of over 1 million people. That is a tiny number.

No. It's October 2021, not December 2020.

103 NEW positive cases yesterday. A seven-day new case rate of 61.58 per 100,000 residents. The last times Montgomery County was at about that level were August 7, 2021, and April 22, 2021. And October 13, 2020, but that was obviously before the vaccines.

It's possible to make a valid argument that the current public-health response to covid is inappropriate because [reasons], but it's not possible to make a valid argument that covid is over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I thought herd immunity was the goal. Is the goal now to have zero cases?

103 positive cases. Out of over 1 million people. That is a tiny number.

No. It's October 2021, not December 2020.

103 NEW positive cases yesterday. A seven-day new case rate of 61.58 per 100,000 residents. The last times Montgomery County was at about that level were August 7, 2021, and April 22, 2021. And October 13, 2020, but that was obviously before the vaccines.

It's possible to make a valid argument that the current public-health response to covid is inappropriate because [reasons], but it's not possible to make a valid argument that covid is over.

Locally, it's as close to over as it's ever going to be. It's always going to circulate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly there are too many anti- vax people in society. I think the 10 day quarantine is great because it punishes people who wouldn’t otherwise get the vaccine. That happened at my kids HS. Kid was quarantined for 10 days and low and behold mom decided to get vaccine for her kid. The public health issue wasn’t enough- only when it was an inconvenience for her family.

I feel bad for the ones too young to get the vaccine but they will be able to do so soon.

But, the stats show that is very simply not true.

98.9% of eligible Montgomery County residents have gotten their first dose. So, less than 2% unvaccinated, as of October 2021.

That is not ‘too many anti-vax’ people by any means.

More than one person who is anti-vax is too many people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I thought herd immunity was the goal. Is the goal now to have zero cases?

103 positive cases. Out of over 1 million people. That is a tiny number.

No. It's October 2021, not December 2020.

103 NEW positive cases yesterday. A seven-day new case rate of 61.58 per 100,000 residents. The last times Montgomery County was at about that level were August 7, 2021, and April 22, 2021. And October 13, 2020, but that was obviously before the vaccines.

It's possible to make a valid argument that the current public-health response to covid is inappropriate because [reasons], but it's not possible to make a valid argument that covid is over.

With over 90% of people vaccinated, the 103 positive cases is almost irrelevant. People will continue to catch and transmit Covid even when vaccinated. Even if the county was 100% vaccinated, we would still see positive cases.

We need to look at how many deaths (and maybe hospitalizations). How many deaths were there in the county due to Covid yesterday?

Go ahead and look it up. I’ll wait.

Nobody is saying ‘Covid is over’, but yeah - the current public health response is worse than inappropriate and has been for months. Especially with regards to kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly there are too many anti- vax people in society. I think the 10 day quarantine is great because it punishes people who wouldn’t otherwise get the vaccine. That happened at my kids HS. Kid was quarantined for 10 days and low and behold mom decided to get vaccine for her kid. The public health issue wasn’t enough- only when it was an inconvenience for her family.

I feel bad for the ones too young to get the vaccine but they will be able to do so soon.

But, the stats show that is very simply not true.

98.9% of eligible Montgomery County residents have gotten their first dose. So, less than 2% unvaccinated, as of October 2021.

That is not ‘too many anti-vax’ people by any means.

More than one person who is anti-vax is too many people.

FFS. So your goal is 100% of the planet vaccinated?

Never going to happen. So we need to acknowledge a more realistic goal. What do you think that would be to make you comfortable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is 98.9% vaccinated amongst those who are eligible.

https://dcist.com/story/21/10/11/montgomery-county-hits-99-partial-vaccination-rate-for-eligible-residents/

When will we see adjustments to the quarantine policies that are putting an unnecessary burden on our kids and caregivers? Who do we contact to get movement on this issue?

Did you read the link you posted? It's for eligible residents who have received at least one shot. The percent of eligible residents who are fully vaccinated is 90.1%.

MCPS has been adjusting its quarantine policies since school started, and I would expect MCPS to continue to do so.

Even with one dose, people are protected against Covid. Either way you look at it, we are way past what they said we would need for herd immunity. What is the goal at this point?

Plus, we know that kids in Montgomery County have been safe from Covid. ZERO Covid deaths in kids age 0-19 since the beginning of this pandemic.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/case-counts.html#deaths-age

How are they justifying such strict quarantine rules in such a highly vaccinated county?

Zero deaths in mcps does not mean it cannot happen here like it just did in va. And, it’s not just about kids dying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly there are too many anti- vax people in society. I think the 10 day quarantine is great because it punishes people who wouldn’t otherwise get the vaccine. That happened at my kids HS. Kid was quarantined for 10 days and low and behold mom decided to get vaccine for her kid. The public health issue wasn’t enough- only when it was an inconvenience for her family.

I feel bad for the ones too young to get the vaccine but they will be able to do so soon.

But, the stats show that is very simply not true.

98.9% of eligible Montgomery County residents have gotten their first dose. So, less than 2% unvaccinated, as of October 2021.

That is not ‘too many anti-vax’ people by any means.

More than one person who is anti-vax is too many people.

FFS. So your goal is 100% of the planet vaccinated?

Never going to happen. So we need to acknowledge a more realistic goal. What do you think that would be to make you comfortable?

Doing everything we can from a public health standpoint. Many selfish Antivax folks who just want to prove a point will get the vaccine when it gets too uncomfortable for them. Those are the ones I’d like to push. They think they are going to be fine without it and could care less if it spreads and kills some elderly person but they will get it if their kid has to quarantine for 10 days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I thought herd immunity was the goal. Is the goal now to have zero cases?

103 positive cases. Out of over 1 million people. That is a tiny number.

No. It's October 2021, not December 2020.

103 NEW positive cases yesterday. A seven-day new case rate of 61.58 per 100,000 residents. The last times Montgomery County was at about that level were August 7, 2021, and April 22, 2021. And October 13, 2020, but that was obviously before the vaccines.

It's possible to make a valid argument that the current public-health response to covid is inappropriate because [reasons], but it's not possible to make a valid argument that covid is over.

With over 90% of people vaccinated, the 103 positive cases is almost irrelevant. People will continue to catch and transmit Covid even when vaccinated. Even if the county was 100% vaccinated, we would still see positive cases.

We need to look at how many deaths (and maybe hospitalizations). How many deaths were there in the county due to Covid yesterday?

Go ahead and look it up. I’ll wait.

Nobody is saying ‘Covid is over’, but yeah - the current public health response is worse than inappropriate and has been for months. Especially with regards to kids.

You are saying it is over to justify your poor behavior. Mcps is not reflective of that vaccine rate. And except if you’ve has a blood test for all vaccines you casnot say you are fully vaccinated. There are outbreaks in Maryland at schools. Why do we need a dead kid or two to take this seriously. This isn’t going to end alone with these vaccines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly there are too many anti- vax people in society. I think the 10 day quarantine is great because it punishes people who wouldn’t otherwise get the vaccine. That happened at my kids HS. Kid was quarantined for 10 days and low and behold mom decided to get vaccine for her kid. The public health issue wasn’t enough- only when it was an inconvenience for her family.

I feel bad for the ones too young to get the vaccine but they will be able to do so soon.

The ones who are punished are the kids too young to be vaccinated, which you casually shrug off. They won’t be fully vaccinated and able to skip quarantine until roughly mid-December. So that’s, what, three months of this nonsense? For no good reason, mind you.

It’s not okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly there are too many anti- vax people in society. I think the 10 day quarantine is great because it punishes people who wouldn’t otherwise get the vaccine. That happened at my kids HS. Kid was quarantined for 10 days and low and behold mom decided to get vaccine for her kid. The public health issue wasn’t enough- only when it was an inconvenience for her family.

I feel bad for the ones too young to get the vaccine but they will be able to do so soon.

But, the stats show that is very simply not true.

98.9% of eligible Montgomery County residents have gotten their first dose. So, less than 2% unvaccinated, as of October 2021.

That is not ‘too many anti-vax’ people by any means.

More than one person who is anti-vax is too many people.

FFS. So your goal is 100% of the planet vaccinated?

Never going to happen. So we need to acknowledge a more realistic goal. What do you think that would be to make you comfortable?

Doing everything we can from a public health standpoint. Many selfish Antivax folks who just want to prove a point will get the vaccine when it gets too uncomfortable for them. Those are the ones I’d like to push. They think they are going to be fine without it and could care less if it spreads and kills some elderly person but they will get it if their kid has to quarantine for 10 days.

It’s not selfish to to not take a brand new vaccine. Vaccines alone are not enough. If they were we’d have no breakthrough cases. Most people vaccinated are behaving poorly. They are putting our kids at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

With over 90% of people vaccinated, the 103 positive cases is almost irrelevant. People will continue to catch and transmit Covid even when vaccinated. Even if the county was 100% vaccinated, we would still see positive cases.

We need to look at how many deaths (and maybe hospitalizations). How many deaths were there in the county due to Covid yesterday?

Go ahead and look it up. I’ll wait.

Nobody is saying ‘Covid is over’, but yeah - the current public health response is worse than inappropriate and has been for months. Especially with regards to kids.

That "almost" is doing a lot of work there.

We're finally getting close to emergency use authorization for vaccines for kids 5-11. Once they are vaccinated, they won't need to quarantine. The "change the quarantine rules!" OP should get their kid(s) vaccinated once that's possible, and that will solve the problem for the OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s not selfish to to not take a brand new vaccine. Vaccines alone are not enough. If they were we’d have no breakthrough cases. Most people vaccinated are behaving poorly. They are putting our kids at risk.

Oh, it's the copy-and-paste poster.

But you're right, refusing to vaccinate your kids is foolish, not selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County is 98.9% vaccinated amongst those who are eligible.

https://dcist.com/story/21/10/11/montgomery-county-hits-99-partial-vaccination-rate-for-eligible-residents/

When will we see adjustments to the quarantine policies that are putting an unnecessary burden on our kids and caregivers? Who do we contact to get movement on this issue?

You could write letters to these people:

Dr. Monifa McKnight, Acting MCPS Superintendent - [e-mail]

Ms. Eugenia Dawson, MCPS Director of Operations - [e-mail]

School Board Members
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Hana_O'[e-mail]

Hope that helps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

With over 90% of people vaccinated, the 103 positive cases is almost irrelevant. People will continue to catch and transmit Covid even when vaccinated. Even if the county was 100% vaccinated, we would still see positive cases.

We need to look at how many deaths (and maybe hospitalizations). How many deaths were there in the county due to Covid yesterday?

Go ahead and look it up. I’ll wait.

Nobody is saying ‘Covid is over’, but yeah - the current public health response is worse than inappropriate and has been for months. Especially with regards to kids.

That "almost" is doing a lot of work there.

We're finally getting close to emergency use authorization for vaccines for kids 5-11. Once they are vaccinated, they won't need to quarantine. The "change the quarantine rules!" OP should get their kid(s) vaccinated once that's possible, and that will solve the problem for the OP.

Unlikely. We are 98.9% vaccinated for people age 12 and over and people are still forcing these crazy quarantines. I’m not convinced we’ll see a difference when the shot is EUA for kids age 5-11. We’ll see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

With over 90% of people vaccinated, the 103 positive cases is almost irrelevant. People will continue to catch and transmit Covid even when vaccinated. Even if the county was 100% vaccinated, we would still see positive cases.

We need to look at how many deaths (and maybe hospitalizations). How many deaths were there in the county due to Covid yesterday?

Go ahead and look it up. I’ll wait.

Nobody is saying ‘Covid is over’, but yeah - the current public health response is worse than inappropriate and has been for months. Especially with regards to kids.

That "almost" is doing a lot of work there.

We're finally getting close to emergency use authorization for vaccines for kids 5-11. Once they are vaccinated, they won't need to quarantine. The "change the quarantine rules!" OP should get their kid(s) vaccinated once that's possible, and that will solve the problem for the OP.

Right. But even if approved by the end of this month, that's still not until mid December that they'll be fully vaxxed.

Meanwhile, they could change the rules TODAY, to save thousands of instructional days for healthy kids.

The change that Frederick made this week is a good example. You're only considered a close contact if you are unmasked