What will the School Board say when we have our own Columbine or Parkland?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think SROs would help in school shootings?

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/02/16/research-finds-armed-officers-increases-mortality-at-school-shootings

"The research looked at 133 shootings where one or more people were intentionally shot in a school building or where someone came to school armed with the intent of firing indiscriminately. The study found that there were three times as many people killed when there was an officer on the scene who was armed"

I personally think the outrage from some about SROs being removed from schools is misguided. I am not anti police, but I think that police can respond quickly too a school when there is an incident and don't believe that a police office station at the school improves overall safety or security.

I attended a school safety meeting in 2019 in FCPS and the sheriff attended. He said that SROs were the first line of defense in detecting students who needed help and may become violent. SROs help prevent suicides as well as school violence. The entire meeting was basically about how effective the SRO program is. I’m just stunned that school systems are giving in to political pressure and removing them.

Did the sheriff have evidence to back that up? Or was he just stating his opinion. I am not attempting to claim it is all not political pressure, but again there are a lot of studies that show the opposite of this. The article I mentioned actually talked about suicide in regards to teen school shooters and how the SROs increase the rate of death not decrease. I would also think that fully trained and educated counselors or mental health specialists would also be able to identify students who need help and may become violent and would also prevent suicide and school violence (I realize we don't have enough mental health providers in schools either).

Of course the sheriff says SROs are great. But there is plenty of evidence that they can also cause problems -- elevating normal student discipline issues into police matters, for example. We need better mental health services in schools to screen for students who are experiencing crises.

There is NO credible evidence that SROs cause problems. You're saying that to be hyperbolic and we all notice that you don't provide any citations to back up your statement. I get it. You don't want SROs in the school because it is easier for you or your kid to run around being wild and inciting violence without the presence of the SROs. People like you are exactly the reason why parents like us want SROs in the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SRO's don't prevent suicide. Mental health professionals do.

Has ACPS hired mental health professionals to replace the SROs? If so, clearly it's not working. If not, then they shouldn't have kicked out the SROs before having the replacement staff on-boarded.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you think SROs would help in school shootings?

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/02/16/research-finds-armed-officers-increases-mortality-at-school-shootings

"The research looked at 133 shootings where one or more people were intentionally shot in a school building or where someone came to school armed with the intent of firing indiscriminately. The study found that there were three times as many people killed when there was an officer on the scene who was armed"

I personally think the outrage from some about SROs being removed from schools is misguided. I am not anti police, but I think that police can respond quickly too a school when there is an incident and don't believe that a police office station at the school improves overall safety or security.

I attended a school safety meeting in 2019 in FCPS and the sheriff attended. He said that SROs were the first line of defense in detecting students who needed help and may become violent. SROs help prevent suicides as well as school violence. The entire meeting was basically about how effective the SRO program is. I’m just stunned that school systems are giving in to political pressure and removing them.

Did the sheriff have evidence to back that up? Or was he just stating his opinion. I am not attempting to claim it is all not political pressure, but again there are a lot of studies that show the opposite of this. The article I mentioned actually talked about suicide in regards to teen school shooters and how the SROs increase the rate of death not decrease. I would also think that fully trained and educated counselors or mental health specialists would also be able to identify students who need help and may become violent and would also prevent suicide and school violence (I realize we don't have enough mental health providers in schools either).

Of course the sheriff says SROs are great. But there is plenty of evidence that they can also cause problems -- elevating normal student discipline issues into police matters, for example. We need better mental health services in schools to screen for students who are experiencing crises.

There is NO credible evidence that SROs cause problems. You're saying that to be hyperbolic and we all notice that you don't provide any citations to back up your statement. I get it. You don't want SROs in the school because it is easier for you or your kid to run around being wild and inciting violence without the presence of the SROs. People like you are exactly the reason why parents like us want SROs in the schools.

Is there credible evidence they make anything better?

[Anonymous]

You cannot measure the deterrent effect of having a SRO in the school. We can agree to disagree but my view is they should stay.

[Anonymous]

Lots of videos online of SROs abusing students, slamming then to the floor and the like. And lots of evidence of racially biased enforcement against non-white students, including arrest of kindergarteners. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

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You are absolutely correct. The SRO at Parkland ran right out of the school. I need to change my argument to general school safety such as student fights and student confrontations with staff that turn physical. That needs to be my concern.

I appreciate all who have educated me and I mean this sincerely.

lol

Wait. So you're searching for the right concern that your solution can address? Isn't that a little backwards?

[Anonymous]

It’ll happen again, and then all these people that fought to pull them out of there will want them back. What happened to George a Floyd was horrible, but this doesn’t fix it. They’re not all Derek Chauvin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You cannot measure the deterrent effect of having a SRO in the school. We can agree to disagree but my view is they should stay.

TCW used to have massive fights with SROs in the building. My school’s SRO mostly plays on his phone outside so he doesn’t have to wear a mask. They’re not deterrents.