ECNL moving to school year part 2

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I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand why a parent would fight for their kid to play down. When i was young if you werem't the same ability as kids your age you didnt play.

The crazy parents were the ones fighting for their kid to play up against older players on an older team. Sometimes these parents were justified. Sometimes they thought their kid was better than they were. But it didn't matter because the older kids would sort that out on the field with the younger player.

The push to playi down started 20 years ago but became more mainstream 10 years ago. You see it all the time at private schools.16 year old freshman are becoming the norm for private schools that recruit.

Youth Soccer has always been grouped based on a 12 month calendar. The cheaters hate it and want to change soccer into another GY sport. This will never happen because clubs control competition and college recruitment pathways. Clubs make much more money not implementing GY not allowing players to play down.

Adding on...

This is why Christian Lavars (the ECNL grand puba) said on the first podcast where they brought up switching from BY to SY. That he didnt agree with players playing down. He said this to calm all the ECNL clubs that know GY would quickly translate into less revenue if implemented.

FYI, the discussion was in reference to playing down on age when trapped and had nothing to do with school grades. He said this because it created temporary disruptions for the younger team; like too many players for half a season. They also were/are generally against playing up in age except in very rare cases.

So the change from BY to SY was to accommodate more players playing with their grade in school...

Got it

Exactly! You cant have it both ways.

ECNL is going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down with players a grade below then in school.

The player should not play down in the younger grade players' team. It is a hidden bully with a subtle middle finger.

It's not. Sorry, but comments like this are an over-reaction.

No they're absolutely appropriate.

You're the one that thinks playing down is acceptable when its not.

It's totally acceptable. It's what happens now in BY and will happen in SY. This view of "playing down" misunderstands the issue.

Hahaha you dont get it + have no clue.

No parent wants a player playing down on their kids team. MLSN only gets away with biobanding because they tell younger parents that a biobanded player will get huge when puberty hits and start playing with their age again.

Just stop advocating for playing down you're embarrassing yourself.

Actually this just advocates for age groups.

Aug.1-Jul 31 will be a good system. Adding unnecessary rules about grades is a bad idea. Giving people flexibility to play up if needed is good. Enjoy the soccer. It's a privilege to have a kid play at whatever level they can ultimately achieve.

Actually allowing Aug birthdays to play down on a team with players that are a grade younger is very bad.

What would be worse is forcing Aug birthdays to play with older kids. Do we force Jan kids to play in the older age group now? No, we don't. But those Jan kids currently play against kids in younger grades.

Yeesh get a life already. It is a 12 month age cutoff. Every sport does it. Your kid must be a real creampuff.

Glad you finally agree -- 12-month cutoff -- Let's gooooo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

I hope whatever rules are adopted are shared far and wide.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand why a parent would fight for their kid to play down. When i was young if you werem't the same ability as kids your age you didnt play.

The crazy parents were the ones fighting for their kid to play up against older players on an older team. Sometimes these parents were justified. Sometimes they thought their kid was better than they were. But it didn't matter because the older kids would sort that out on the field with the younger player.

The push to playi down started 20 years ago but became more mainstream 10 years ago. You see it all the time at private schools.16 year old freshman are becoming the norm for private schools that recruit.

Youth Soccer has always been grouped based on a 12 month calendar. The cheaters hate it and want to change soccer into another GY sport. This will never happen because clubs control competition and college recruitment pathways. Clubs make much more money not implementing GY not allowing players to play down.

Adding on...

This is why Christian Lavars (the ECNL grand puba) said on the first podcast where they brought up switching from BY to SY. That he didnt agree with players playing down. He said this to calm all the ECNL clubs that know GY would quickly translate into less revenue if implemented.

FYI, the discussion was in reference to playing down on age when trapped and had nothing to do with school grades. He said this because it created temporary disruptions for the younger team; like too many players for half a season. They also were/are generally against playing up in age except in very rare cases.

So the change from BY to SY was to accommodate more players playing with their grade in school...

Got it

Exactly! You cant have it both ways.

ECNL is going to implement a rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down with players a grade below then in school.

The player should not play down in the younger grade players' team. It is a hidden bully with a subtle middle finger.

Normal people understand that playing down is crap.

Crazy people (probably a liberal woman who never played sports) wants to make everything inclusive and fair so even the oddballs that cant tie their shoelaces have a spot on the team.

How do you or anyone define the terms playing down? If kids are the same grade? Because any window of time the older players are technically playing down as well? Is a January kid in BY playing down?

No soccer league is going Grad Year but for people to cry about it so much what sad losers.

Playing in a team where players are one or two grades lower than you is playing down. Playing in a team where players are 13 months to 23 months younger than you is playing down. If you don't understand it in a p2p club environment, just imagine a Junior play in a HS frosh soccer team. He is playing with players 1 to 2 grades down and more than 12 months younger.

"Playing in a team where players are one or two grades lower than you is playing down. Playing in a team where players are 13 months to 23 months younger than you is playing down. " This describes all varsity HS soccer and college soccer. Maybe you didn't mean to block playing up but it's what you wrote. And many small clubs have to put together teams with combined years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

That's GY and what's not happening. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

Not fair to reward August holdbacks and punish the August kids that went to school on time. And to ignore misaligned Sept kids. Your complaining so loudly is the reason leagues can't open this can of worms for special consideration. Not the leagues and clubs first rodeo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

Agree 100%!!!! If your kid is a CREAM PUFF…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

They could have made a rule that Sept-Dec play with their grade when under birth year then they wouldn't have had to move to seasonal year. But they chose straight seasonal year. It's over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

Help me out - are you saying Aug kids who play a grade down than their actual grade are cheaters in a system where the cutoff is from Aug to July?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just wait for the rule not allowing Aug birthdays to play down which everyone thats sane know will happen.

You'll slither back under your rock looking for some other item to troll on.

how are they going to make this rule? By asking what grade an August kid is in? If it is 8-1 to 7-31; that is the 12-month age group. If they say all August birthdays have to play with the age group above, it would make no sense? so i'm assuming you are saying it would be based on grade then?

You just make a rule that Aug players must play with their grade in school.

When leagues are made aware of cheaters they tell them to play with the correct grade or dont play ar all.

Seems pretty simple.

Help me out - are you saying Aug kids who play a grade down than their actual grade are cheaters in a system where the cutoff is from Aug to July?

Yes its call SY or School Year for a reason

[Anonymous]

I have a feeling someone has an AI bot responding on this thread. The responses just arent logical.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling someone has an AI bot responding on this thread. The responses just arent logical.

Its ok I can do that to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling someone has an AI bot responding on this thread. The responses just arent logical.

I was about to say the same thing. People have lost their damn mind.