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What is your first choice bilingual program?
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| I have heard Stokes is AMAZING from friends whose children go there. It's too far from us. We are only applying to Tyler cos we are only applying to Hill schools. |
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| Bancroft. |
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| Oyster! |
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| Cleveland and Stokes |
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| I've heard about issues with Stokes from friends who send kids there. Undecided about my top choice though. Think Cleveland has potential, we're never going to get into Oyster. Bancroft sounds good as well. Unsure about Marie Reed, haven't visited. |
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This is an interesting discussion, it is difficult to compare all these schools and determine who is doing a "good" job. I tried comparing "apples" to "apples" on the citywide AYP reports (http://www.nclb.osse.dc.gov/schoolsSummaryReports.asp?c=&rt=&sb=m) (had to download to excel and to do sorting). And, it gives you some interesting insights.
Bancroft's population is so heavily Hispanic that no other groups show up on NCLB data. But, Bancroft is doing worse than the other mentioned schools for that population (31% prof). Stokes is doing much better for its Hispanic (42%) and black (70%) students (and presumably Stokes is getting its Hispanic student from essentially the same population as Bancroft). Oyster does better by its Hispanic students --69% prof; but I'm not sure what their socio/economic background looks like. Cleveland doing well also 56% for Hispanic, 67% for black. For LEP/NEP Students - Oyster, Reed and Stokes are the top schools in the city. And, this is a difficult population of mostly poor students with parents who do not speak much English -- to get these kids to high levels of reading proficiency is a real achievement. Bancroft lep/nep kids are 32% proficient. When looking at AA NCLB proficiency Stokes (70%) beats Cleveland (67%), Haynes and Cap City (about 67% for both) (not bilingual but very sought after Charters). Oyster does better at 73% and the upper NW schools that have enough AA students to report are in the 67-75 range. So it appears the highly sought after Upper NW schools, popular charters and Cleveland do similarly for AA students. Again, I would assume the slightly higher scores in the the Oyster and Upper NW schools is due to higher SES for AA students. Stokes and Cleveland do not have very many non-economically disadvantaged students, so their higher numbers might indicate an actual improvement in teaching. Most of you probably care how the school is going to serve your white middle class kid (as I do). But that is difficult to judge based on the data we have. Murch and Haynes (not bilingual) are highest in the city. Oyster and Cap City are lower (88%). Stokes, Bancroft, Cleveland, Tyler etc do not have enough white students in upper grades to report NCLB data for those students. But, my thinking is that a school that can do as well by a Population of lower income Hispanic and AA students as Stokes or Cleveland is probably going to do alright by my middle class white kid -- see success at Haynes as an example. In part, I wonder if part of the success at the bilingual schools is a result of the bilingual education (though I guess Haynes would undermine that assumption). So, I don't know which is my favorite bilingual school. I'd rather have bilingual than not and the bilingual schools generally seem to be doing a better job than then non-bilingual schools -- except for Bancroft. So, before I would seriously consider Bancroft, I'd want a better explanation as to why their students are doing so much worst than Stokes or Cleveland. Based on the numbers, I don't think Oyster deserves that reputation it gets for being so much better than other schools. It is doing fine and I'm sure kids are getting a good education, but there does not appear to be a lot of evidence that it is much better than Stokes or Cleveland. |
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| Oyster is 33% low income, while Bancroft is 80%. I've heard that Oyster has a lot of middle class Hispanic families--World Bank types. So it's no surprise that their scores for this group are much higher. |
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What are the figures for Oyster, Reed and Stokes? |
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| Why do the test scores for Reed drop sharply from 2009 to 2010? Makes me wonder if they were somehow inflated before. |
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Wow. Thanks for crunching the numbers. Starting with scores is a tricky way to pick a bilingual Spanish school. There are no standards for what constitutes bilingual education in DC. Some offer full Spanish immersion preschool, some don't. Some have English tracks, some don't. Some have aftercare in Spanish, others don't. Some teach math in Spanish, some don't, etc. If you and your child have no foreign language background or exposure, be aware that it could take up to 4th or 5th grade for an average student to be become functionally bilingual. You may need to overcompensate for lack of language at home with extra enrichment. Some schools have it for free or cheap. Some don't. |
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For 2010 reading 56%, 50% and 46% in reaching 2010. Significantly better than Bancroft at 32. I just noticed that Cap City was only 28% proficiency for LEP/NEP. |
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| Yu Ying. Chinese impresses me much more than Spanish, and I suspect college admissions officers are going to feel the same way. |
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Was wondering when the YY mascot would show up on this thread. Frankly stunned it took so long. |
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LOL. Mascot singular? I'm pretty sure there's more than one of us... 
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