ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

So no BY arguments here then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

So no BY arguments here then.

🙄

[Anonymous]

Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

So no BY arguments here then.

BYe 🤡

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

Many clubs do not allow this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

Many clubs do not allow this.

But but but…my club is wonderful! It’s the world that needs to change!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

This is a bandaid fix that was created due to changing to birth year. This is only during the highschool school season. And very limited numbers. This doesn't solve the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

This is a bandaid fix that was created due to changing to birth year. This is only during the highschool school season. And very limited numbers. This doesn't solve the problem.

Cool cool, so it’s just there hanging out in the policies then, like an old law on the books.

I guess you’re right, the only cure for trapped kids is to change the cutoff back to school year since the policy that is written to help isn’t used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

That response so perfectly sums up this thread.

SY: "Here are the reasons we should change back to SY"

BY: "Nope, those are stupid. You are stupid. Lol."

SY: "OK, well, a lot of people and independent sources recognize those problems too. Is there a good argument for why we switched to birth year?"

BY: "Europe uses these cutoffs. Your kid sucks at soccer."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

This is a bandaid fix that was created due to changing to birth year. This is only during the highschool school season. And very limited numbers. This doesn't solve the problem.

Cool cool, so it’s just there hanging out in the policies then, like an old law on the books.

I guess you’re right, the only cure for trapped kids is to change the cutoff back to school year since the policy that is written to help isn’t used.

You are in agreement with ECNL based on the first set on podcasts. They were dismissive of the trapped player exception(s), didn't seem to have interest in fixing it and wanted to go school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

That response so perfectly sums up this thread.

SY: "Here are the reasons we should change back to SY"

BY: "Nope, those are stupid. You are stupid. Lol."

SY: "OK, well, a lot of people and independent sources recognize those problems too. Is there a good argument for why we switched to birth year?"

BY: "Europe uses these cutoffs. Your kid sucks at soccer."

Birthers tend to use a bunch of emojis also. So there's that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

That response so perfectly sums up this thread.

SY: "Here are the reasons we should change back to SY"

BY: "Nope, those are stupid. You are stupid. Lol."

SY: "OK, well, a lot of people and independent sources recognize those problems too. Is there a good argument for why we switched to birth year?"

BY: "Europe uses these cutoffs. Your kid sucks at soccer."

Haha nailed it. I don’t care if they change but that sums it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

That response so perfectly sums up this thread.

SY: "Here are the reasons we should change back to SY"

BY: "Nope, those are stupid. You are stupid. Lol."

SY: "OK, well, a lot of people and independent sources recognize those problems too. Is there a good argument for why we switched to birth year?"

BY: "Europe uses these cutoffs. Your kid sucks at soccer."

Don’t forget they the “your kid is just bad it has nothing to do with what month they were born”

If they change the registration dates those parents have nothing to fear because Aug to Dec kids are just bad at soccer. Has nothing to do with RAE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop it. Please. This is not going to happen.

Maybe not. But until someone makes some more convincing arguments for the benefits of BY cutoffs to the bottom 99.9% of players, to offset the costs, I don't think the issue will ever go away.

Argue the benefits of BY?
Is this a joke?

You need to focus on the benefits of discipline and training well consistently.
Stop seeking ready-made excuses

That response so perfectly sums up this thread.

SY: "Here are the reasons we should change back to SY"

BY: "Nope, those are stupid. You are stupid. Lol."

SY: "OK, well, a lot of people and independent sources recognize those problems too. Is there a good argument for why we switched to birth year?"

BY: "Europe uses these cutoffs. Your kid sucks at soccer."

Haha nailed it. I don’t care if they change but that sums it up.

I got more of the following:

BY: If you care about SY then your kid sucks at soccer and will continue to suck at soccer and most everything in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand what all this SY vs CY is all about. ECNL already allows "trapped" players to play down with their grade if they want to.

2.9 Trapped Player Exceptions.

2.9.1 Trapped U18/U19 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 11th grade, but who is
age appropriate for the U18/U19 age group is classified as a “Trapped U18/U19 Player”.
A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in games at two (2) U17 ECNL
National Events in the ECNL Season (excluding the ECNL Post Season). No more than
three (3) Trapped U18/U19 Players may participate in any single game at any such U17
ECNL National Event.

2.9.1.1 A “Trapped U18/U19 Player” is a player that is a senior in high school (12th grade),
who has aged out according to our Age Eligibility Chart above, but still enrolled in high
school classes. A Trapped U18/U19 Player is eligible to participate in U18/U19 ECNL
Competition provided they submit proof of high school enrollment.

2.9.2 Trapped U15 Player. An ECNL Registered Player that is in 8th grade (not in high
school), but who is age appropriate for the U15 age group is classified as a “Trapped U15
Player”. A Trapped U15 Player is eligible to participate in U14 ECNL Competition that is
played during the player’s high school association’s sanctioned soccer season. A
Trapped U15 Player that competes in an U14 ECNL Competition pursuant to this Rule
2.9.2 may also compete in the same ECNL Fixture at U15 through U18/U19, provided she
only plays one (1) ECNL Competition per day. No more than two (2) Trapped U15
Players may participate in any individual U14 ECNL Competition.

This is a bandaid fix that was created due to changing to birth year. This is only during the highschool school season. And very limited numbers. This doesn't solve the problem.

So the bandaid eliminates the none existent problem and people still complaining haha