Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

[Anonymous]

I am getting tired of the upper-middle class white American meme of "job-car-house" that seem to rule our existences. We have to study hard and go to a good college not to learn about the world or enrich ourselves, but to get the "job-car-house" trifecta. Then, we spend our entire adult lives working to keep the "job-car-house" and to get a better "job-car-house". We compare our "job-car-house" to those of other upper-middle class white people; we look down on people who do not have the same level of "job-car-house" that we have; and we get jealous of those who have a better "job-car-house" than we do. Then, we start the pattern all over again by raising our children to go to certain colleges so that they too can obtain a certain level of "job-car-house!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I choose to be a SAHM because I cannot stand working. I hated deadlines, and dealing with bosses, and just having to get dressed up spanks and all. It was for the birds. I love being home and enjoy getting to spend 100 percent of my time with the kids. I don't care what people say, I'm not missing anything about the working world. I am a frumpy house fraus. And I'm proud.

I appreciate your honesty. Not a lot of people admit how happy they are to be a free rider on their spouse. How does your husband feel about being the only breadwinner?
Oh, and it's Spanx.

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You haven't answered the question. In what way does a luxury SUV change your practical, everyday life? I get that it's probably a confidence boost to an insecure self esteem that needs to be showered with things to make them feel better, but does a Mercedes SUV really add that much value driving in your daily life, than say, a Honda SUV? I know it's tough to imagine that my questions aren't rooted in "jealousy," because I could easily go out and get one in cash today. I genuinely don't understand the difference as significant.

I'm not sure what part of 'comfort, safety, quality of construction, technological innovation, features you have trouble with understanding.

The Mercedes has more comfort, safety, quality of construction, technological innovation, features than the honda

NP, I am not a car person or a luxury goods person, but i get easily stressed driving. This is obvious to me. A smoother, safer ride. It just feels better and it really does add to the quality of life every day if you drive every day! GPS, heated seats, great sound system, screens in back for the kids, the new car smell. This is somewhere to spend the money IF it will improve your life (only you can decide) and if you can afford it.

I drive 15 miles a day. Since I spend 30 minutes a day in the car, I don't care how much better the Mercedes is than my Honda. Capiche?

You are really rude. I said above, only you can decide. You couldn't understand how something adds value, and I was explaining how it does in my case. Then you flip it around and say how it doesn't add value to your life. That is fine, but don't act like an idiot when you ask a question and get opinions and they are different from your own.

You're the idiot. This was my first post regarding cars on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I choose to be a SAHM because I cannot stand working. I hated deadlines, and dealing with bosses, and just having to get dressed up spanks and all. It was for the birds. I love being home and enjoy getting to spend 100 percent of my time with the kids. I don't care what people say, I'm not missing anything about the working world. I am a frumpy house fraus. And I'm proud.

You are not alone.

If you don't make enough when you work to materially improve your family's lives, then eh, who cares if you work or SAH?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny that the luxury car posters don't seem to understand the responses to their posts. It keeps going like this:

Luxury poster: I love my [insert luxury car]. It's worth it to pay more because of xyz.

Responding Poster: I can afford a [insert luxury car], but can get xyz without spending that much.

Luxury poster: You're just jealous because you can't afford [insert luxury car].

Responding Poster: I said I could afford it, but I don't want one.

Luxury poster: You must just really be one of the poors then.

Like the luxury posters cannot fathom someone with the abikity to buy a luxury car might actually want to drive a ford, nissan, etc. And their argument keeps boiling down to "you must be poor if you're not opting to spend the same amount of money on a car as me."

Which is funny, because that is the message these posters clearly want to send when they drive around town in their luxury cars. A lot of us just aren't buying into that message.

What's even funnier is at least one poster who cannot fathom having money that is saved or invested, instead of being spent for "enjoyment." What a lower class outlook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am getting tired of the upper-middle class white American meme of "job-car-house" that seem to rule our existences. We have to study hard and go to a good college not to learn about the world or enrich ourselves, but to get the "job-car-house" trifecta. Then, we spend our entire adult lives working to keep the "job-car-house" and to get a better "job-car-house". We compare our "job-car-house" to those of other upper-middle class white people; we look down on people who do not have the same level of "job-car-house" that we have; and we get jealous of those who have a better "job-car-house" than we do. Then, we start the pattern all over again by raising our children to go to certain colleges so that they too can obtain a certain level of "job-car-house!"

This is so true. And so sad.

[Anonymous]

SAHM pp here.

My DH doesn't love it and is somewhat resentful. But he deals and I think considering the alternatives, including divorce, weren't enough to force my hand on this. Shrug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SAHM pp here.

My DH doesn't love it and is somewhat resentful. But he deals and I think considering the alternatives, including divorce, weren't enough to force my hand on this. Shrug.

You're comfy that he won't dump you? Or you are a different poster than the one who called herself a frumpy haus frau on this thread earlier? Are you going to force him to let you SAH until your youngest child is in college?

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting tired of the upper-middle class white American meme of "job-car-house" that seem to rule our existences. We have to study hard and go to a good college not to learn about the world or enrich ourselves, but to get the "job-car-house" trifecta. Then, we spend our entire adult lives working to keep the "job-car-house" and to get a better "job-car-house". We compare our "job-car-house" to those of other upper-middle class white people; we look down on people who do not have the same level of "job-car-house" that we have; and we get jealous of those who have a better "job-car-house" than we do. Then, we start the pattern all over again by raising our children to go to certain colleges so that they too can obtain a certain level of "job-car-house!"

This is so true. And so sad.

I'm older than you are, likely, and this meme never has ruled my life. It's a choice. We live in the house we bought 15 years ago, and our cars are 5+ years old. Either of us (although not both) could quit our jobs tomorrow. Take control of your own life.

[Anonymous]

You're comfy that he won't dump you? Or you are a different poster than the one who called herself a frumpy haus frau on this thread earlier? Are you going to force him to let you SAH until your youngest child is in college?

I don't ever plan on working. There's a lot of love there, but honestly, I know (and he knows) that the financial aspect of our lives isn't a love question. It's practical and a cost-benefit and I would win regardless (although I would hate having to work again. just hate) if we divorced. Based on child support, he'd be taking a bath if he left. So, we deal. Because in a weird way, we are stuck with each other unless we really, really want to pay. Neither of us do at this moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SAHM pp here.

My DH doesn't love it and is somewhat resentful. But he deals and I think considering the alternatives, including divorce, weren't enough to force my hand on this. Shrug.

You're unbelievably selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting tired of the upper-middle class white American meme of "job-car-house" that seem to rule our existences. We have to study hard and go to a good college not to learn about the world or enrich ourselves, but to get the "job-car-house" trifecta. Then, we spend our entire adult lives working to keep the "job-car-house" and to get a better "job-car-house". We compare our "job-car-house" to those of other upper-middle class white people; we look down on people who do not have the same level of "job-car-house" that we have; and we get jealous of those who have a better "job-car-house" than we do. Then, we start the pattern all over again by raising our children to go to certain colleges so that they too can obtain a certain level of "job-car-house!"

This is so true. And so sad.

I'm older than you are, likely, and this meme never has ruled my life. It's a choice. We live in the house we bought 15 years ago, and our cars are 5+ years old. Either of us (although not both) could quit our jobs tomorrow. Take control of your own life.

people like different things. people can afford different things. overall, I probably fall more on the value/savings side of the spectrum, but I also spend a lot of time in my car. I will probably treat myself to a BMW 535 this year (or something similar). Do I think it is that big of a deal? No. But my a$$ is going to be damn comfortable and better than leaving it all to my bratty kids.

[Anonymous]

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You're comfy that he won't dump you? Or you are a different poster than the one who called herself a frumpy haus frau on this thread earlier? Are you going to force him to let you SAH until your youngest child is in college?

I don't ever plan on working. There's a lot of love there, but honestly, I know (and he knows) that the financial aspect of our lives isn't a love question. It's practical and a cost-benefit and I would win regardless (although I would hate having to work again. just hate) if we divorced. Based on child support, he'd be taking a bath if he left. So, we deal. Because in a weird way, we are stuck with each other unless we really, really want to pay. Neither of us do at this moment.

Oooh this is one cynical marital deal. But honest.

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting tired of the upper-middle class white American meme of "job-car-house" that seem to rule our existences. We have to study hard and go to a good college not to learn about the world or enrich ourselves, but to get the "job-car-house" trifecta. Then, we spend our entire adult lives working to keep the "job-car-house" and to get a better "job-car-house". We compare our "job-car-house" to those of other upper-middle class white people; we look down on people who do not have the same level of "job-car-house" that we have; and we get jealous of those who have a better "job-car-house" than we do. Then, we start the pattern all over again by raising our children to go to certain colleges so that they too can obtain a certain level of "job-car-house!"

This is so true. And so sad.

I'm older than you are, likely, and this meme never has ruled my life. It's a choice. We live in the house we bought 15 years ago, and our cars are 5+ years old. Either of us (although not both) could quit our jobs tomorrow. Take control of your own life.

people like different things. people can afford different things. overall, I probably fall more on the value/savings side of the spectrum, but I also spend a lot of time in my car. I will probably treat myself to a BMW 535 this year (or something similar). Do I think it is that big of a deal? No. But my a$$ is going to be damn comfortable and better than leaving it all to my bratty kids.

You spend a lot of time in your car, I don't.

[Anonymous]

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You're comfy that he won't dump you? Or you are a different poster than the one who called herself a frumpy haus frau on this thread earlier? Are you going to force him to let you SAH until your youngest child is in college?

I don't ever plan on working. There's a lot of love there, but honestly, I know (and he knows) that the financial aspect of our lives isn't a love question. It's practical and a cost-benefit and I would win regardless (although I would hate having to work again. just hate) if we divorced. Based on child support, he'd be taking a bath if he left. So, we deal. Because in a weird way, we are stuck with each other unless we really, really want to pay. Neither of us do at this moment.

I guess he's stuck, but only until your youngest is 18. Something to ponder.