Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:My hunch is that this is all eating disorder related. See bandaged fingers. I think the Dec 28 hospital visit was for this as there was an acute issue stemming from eating disorder. I believe she really did have abdominal surgery and perhaps things were more complicated internally due to the years of abuse. I think things were very serious medically. She is now in rehab and gaining weight (possibly with feeding tube). She may not agree with the treatment protocols and is embarrassed about being seen with the weight gain, though of course she shouldn't be - but that is the disordered mind talking. She is upset and refusing to go along with being seen right now. There may be marital issues on top of this but I suspect that the eating disorder is the main issue. If this is the situation, I feel for Kate, as she is likely being pressured to "reveal herself" before she is ready and she should take the time necessary to get healthy, and feel comfortable being photographed.

What is your hunch based upon?

My hunch is based on the following 1) google pictures of her with the finger bandages, they are from multiple years. clear signs of bulimia. 2) she looked noticeably thinner in Sept-Nov of 2023 vs earlier in the year 3) if you take the car pic with her mom as real, her face appears to have gained weight 4) there is sensitivity with revealing bulimia / eating disorders because of Diana 5) eating disorder treatments take a long time and are consistent with the timeframe originally given

Also no one visited her in the hospital. Not Wills. Not Mom or Dad. Not Pippa. No one.

Not true. Why are you lying or makings up?

I'm not making anything up. William visited her once, the day after her surgery was announced. No one else from her family did.

How do we know? Because the press was camped outside the hospital and captured Camilla visiting Charles several times a day.

This tells us nothing except RF wanted them to see Camilla but not Kate's visitors.

Also Camilla is a member of the royal family. The Middletons are not. So it's understandable that there would be press coverage of Camilla visiting the King but not of the Middletons visiting Kate.

Then why didn't William visit her?

(I thought Harry/Meghan stans were annoying, but William/Kate ones might be even worse.)

You’re obviously a highly decorated kindness warrior, but how exactly do you know what visits, calls, contacts, did or didn’t take place?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty convincing that the Mother’s Day photo was an old photo edited to look new. But why - the Mothers Day 2023 insta photo was from the same photo shoot as the Christmas 2022 shoot; they also used a photo in the same clothes for Kate & Wills’ anniversary in 2023. So old photos shouldn’t matter.

My question is, whoever did the editing, why did they edit out her ring? Photos from the charity event show her wearing it, so one would assume they intentionally edited it out. But why? Bizarre.

Took it off once home?

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I always take off all of my jewelry when I get home - even wedding rings. This “photogate” is so absurd. I’m much more of an amateur photographer than Kate is (she’s actually a very good photographer) and even I know how to edit things. I edited out graffiti from our trip to Paris and can easily remove red eye. No big deal at all.

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I’d guess this all has to do with Charles’ petulant jealousy when the public focuses on Kate. He despised the attention Diana received and still hates being upstaged. Will and Kate have to be careful never to upstage Charles and Camilla. This has to be hard to navigate from a PR standpoint because Charles is a pissy twit and Camilla is a hag, former mistress.

My guess is that she did have surgery, and Will and Kate wanted a break while Charles and Camilla’s team didn’t want the younger two grabbing the spotlight. Charles always makes bad decisions and his actions got this mess rolling.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty convincing that the Mother’s Day photo was an old photo edited to look new. But why - the Mothers Day 2023 insta photo was from the same photo shoot as the Christmas 2022 shoot; they also used a photo in the same clothes for Kate & Wills’ anniversary in 2023. So old photos shouldn’t matter.

My question is, whoever did the editing, why did they edit out her ring? Photos from the charity event show her wearing it, so one would assume they intentionally edited it out. But why? Bizarre.

I agree, it's so odd. The easiest explanation is that she just wasn't wearing the ring for this photo. I do think it was taken the same day as the baby bank video based on the clothes, but it looks like it was taken at home. Maybe she doesn't wear that giant ring 100% of the time at home but always wears it for public events, and this might have just been a photo taken at home (maybe even actually by William) because the kids were dressed up and Kate's hair and makeup were done for the event and they wanted a cute pic of the four of them together.

I also don't see any obvious photoshopping on her hand itself that would indicate the ring was removed from the photo. I think she just wasn't wearing it.

This person thinks Kate's hand was photoshopped. https://twitter.com/byetwit/status/1766844203445657913?s=20

It’s interesting, the people you follow.

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Anonymous wrote:My hunch is that this is all eating disorder related. See bandaged fingers. I think the Dec 28 hospital visit was for this as there was an acute issue stemming from eating disorder. I believe she really did have abdominal surgery and perhaps things were more complicated internally due to the years of abuse. I think things were very serious medically. She is now in rehab and gaining weight (possibly with feeding tube). She may not agree with the treatment protocols and is embarrassed about being seen with the weight gain, though of course she shouldn't be - but that is the disordered mind talking. She is upset and refusing to go along with being seen right now. There may be marital issues on top of this but I suspect that the eating disorder is the main issue. If this is the situation, I feel for Kate, as she is likely being pressured to "reveal herself" before she is ready and she should take the time necessary to get healthy, and feel comfortable being photographed.

What is your hunch based upon?

My hunch is based on the following 1) google pictures of her with the finger bandages, they are from multiple years. clear signs of bulimia. 2) she looked noticeably thinner in Sept-Nov of 2023 vs earlier in the year 3) if you take the car pic with her mom as real, her face appears to have gained weight 4) there is sensitivity with revealing bulimia / eating disorders because of Diana 5) eating disorder treatments take a long time and are consistent with the timeframe originally given

Also no one visited her in the hospital. Not Wills. Not Mom or Dad. Not Pippa. No one.

Not true. Why are you lying or makings up?

I'm not making anything up. William visited her once, the day after her surgery was announced. No one else from her family did.

How do we know? Because the press was camped outside the hospital and captured Camilla visiting Charles several times a day.

They could have come in another entrance in an unofficial car.

You don’t think the press had people watching all entrances?

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You can tell that the photo of Kate's face was taken at a different time than her kids because the light sources are different.



Is this all because Kate's face is swollen from post-surgery steroids so that's why she's hiding it? If so, why don't they just say that???

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Anonymous wrote:I’m calling mental health breakdown for Kate or divorce. It’s one of the few things that makes sense. There are few medical procedures that wouldn’t be disclosed in 2024. The fact everything is hush hush plus the ambulance makes me think the worst.

Hmm. I personally think that their explanation makes the most sense. She had surgery, has a long recovery possibly with a colostomy bag, and wants to rest and not do public engagements. That makes the most sense to me.

Of course but that isn't sensational enough for some people who thrive on drama because their own lives are so dull.

Ok but why shame those with colostomy bags. Explain what it’s been like for you and how you want to make life better for those who have to wear them. Her sole job is centered in awareness and public engagement, this is the opportunity to speak up and speak out.

She is NOT OBLIGED to address any still-ongoing or recent health issues. Especially when there’s a cottage industry of damaged, nasty, eternally online sh!t posters dedicated to writing the worst things about her.

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I seriously wonder at the mental health of those who are bound and determined to tear her down for wanting to be private about her health issues. Or any private issues, for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d guess this all has to do with Charles’ petulant jealousy when the public focuses on Kate. He despised the attention Diana received and still hates being upstaged. Will and Kate have to be careful never to upstage Charles and Camilla. This has to be hard to navigate from a PR standpoint because Charles is a pissy twit and Camilla is a hag, former mistress.

My guess is that she did have surgery, and Will and Kate wanted a break while Charles and Camilla’s team didn’t want the younger two grabbing the spotlight. Charles always makes bad decisions and his actions got this mess rolling.

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And with the new post-cancer-diagnosis talk of his abdication, Charles must be absolutely livid. And absolutely impossible.

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Anonymous wrote:My hunch is that this is all eating disorder related. See bandaged fingers. I think the Dec 28 hospital visit was for this as there was an acute issue stemming from eating disorder. I believe she really did have abdominal surgery and perhaps things were more complicated internally due to the years of abuse. I think things were very serious medically. She is now in rehab and gaining weight (possibly with feeding tube). She may not agree with the treatment protocols and is embarrassed about being seen with the weight gain, though of course she shouldn't be - but that is the disordered mind talking. She is upset and refusing to go along with being seen right now. There may be marital issues on top of this but I suspect that the eating disorder is the main issue. If this is the situation, I feel for Kate, as she is likely being pressured to "reveal herself" before she is ready and she should take the time necessary to get healthy, and feel comfortable being photographed.

What is your hunch based upon?

My hunch is based on the following 1) google pictures of her with the finger bandages, they are from multiple years. clear signs of bulimia. 2) she looked noticeably thinner in Sept-Nov of 2023 vs earlier in the year 3) if you take the car pic with her mom as real, her face appears to have gained weight 4) there is sensitivity with revealing bulimia / eating disorders because of Diana 5) eating disorder treatments take a long time and are consistent with the timeframe originally given

Also no one visited her in the hospital. Not Wills. Not Mom or Dad. Not Pippa. No one.

Not true. Why are you lying or makings up?

I'm not making anything up. William visited her once, the day after her surgery was announced. No one else from her family did.

How do we know? Because the press was camped outside the hospital and captured Camilla visiting Charles several times a day.

They could have come in another entrance in an unofficial car.

Why would William, the Middletons, or anybody else want to hide the fact they were visiting Kate?

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Anonymous wrote:Kate cannot win. She issued a statement. She is not in a coma, dead, a hostage or a victim of domestic violence, or getting divorced. I believe the biggest clue that it’s recent, is the lack of her ring. It’s probably still locked up since before her planned surgery. She always wore it in past photos. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. You claim these crazy statements as concern, when you really want it to be something horrible.

She owes the public nothing.

KP didn’t disclose the details about Queen Elizabrth’s diagnosis that led to her death. She knew she was dying. She didn’t die in her sleep. Good for her.

Actually that’s not true.

She owed the British public an heir to the throne. Which she has provided.

She owes the British public patronage of charities and attendance at ribbon cuttings, garden parties, teas, and rounds to meet people her charities serve. And assuming her health condition hasn’t incapacitated her completely, I’m sure she’ll be back at work at some point after Easter.

She doesn’t owe anyone info about her health or pictures of what she currently looks like. I would guess that she’s terribly self-conscious right now about the visual consequences of her health issues.

Listen PP, I get that you are giving her empathy. But the reality is that this is EXACTLY what she signed up for. It's why multiple other exes of both princes abandoned the relationships. It's why MM had a nervous breakdown and basically fled the country. It is a very difficult impossible standard to uphold but it IS the standard and it is one that KM understood very very clearly before going into this arrangement. Which is why she was out there hours after giving birth. She gets it.

The argument isn't about whether or not that is right or reasonable its about what changed. Even with the eating disorder theory there remains deep questions. The fact that she appears completely unwilling to take ANY current photo speaks to something being deeply wrong. Puffiness and weight gain could be photoshopped well and easily and not result in the photo being flagged by news agencies. She could pose in a way that did not show her stomach at all and the public would understand. Her not showing her face is INTENTIONAL. And short of her having had a major facial trauma/injury I don't see any possible explanation beyond her refusal to show it. And outright refusal to show her face, to me, seems like a bargaining chip.

If this was an eating disorder thing she would want the speculation to go away and she would work with them to create some photo that she could live with that would get things to die down. She KNOWS the public wants proof of life. She's saying no. And that is not the KM we have known for the last like, 20 years. So what changed?

Pp here. Yes, exactly. She did sign up for this and has been a good sport until now. Unfortunately, I think what changed is that there has been an unexpected medical diagnosis of a chronic condition. And they don’t know how to handle it and are probably apprehensive, as anyone would be. She’s young, has small children, and has always been beautiful. Maybe she thinks she doesn’t look beautiful? Maybe she’s upset and scared? Maybe william is?

That worked until yesterday. Issuing a doctored photo trying to make something from 5 months ago seem current and then having this car shot with her looking out of frame? That does not pass muster. Because they can ALMOST CERTAINLY take a current photo and photoshop it enough to meet standards and enough to make her look good. The photos TMZ posted, if they are of KM, show that she is essentially still recognizable. That is a woman who could have a professional makeup and hair team and a professional editor churn out an acceptable image. And if she were really scared and dealing with a weird diagnosis, she would want to end this uproar to prevent the absolute deluge of paparazzo likely on their way to London right now to get the shot. Giving a small semi normal morsel in a current photo or quick video is how you take the temperature down. Choosing to look aggressively out the window during the papp photo the palace set up to quell suspicions is the TOTAL opposite of that.

Will dropping out of a family funeral at the last minute with no explanation is the total opposite of that.

The palace tripping over itself to try to explain these things is the total opposite of that.

Something serious is going on, I don't know if its a divorce or an illness but something is amiss.

KP had tried several times to tell y'all to knock it off. They have said she's okay and will return after Easter. They've repeated it.

The Mother's Day picture was routine. Y'all rejected it. No way are they going to give you a different picture or video until after Easter. They said what they are going to do. That's what they are doing.

Y'all? I wasn't even paying attention to this until last week. And I didn't think anything was REALLY wrong until today. The mother's day photo and this car photo to me say something is REALLY wrong. The cacophony of concern is reaching people like me who don't pay attention to anything royal until it seems like not just something the crazies are talking about but actual news. If there WAS truly nothing wrong, they would be doing something real to counteract it. This smells more like the H&M drama where there was a lot of smoke and despite KP's press releases, it turned out they were in fact trying to hide a giant bonfire.

They did. See the joint instagram post from this morning. This is how they counteract.

I think they are still unfortunately playing the same game and expect the same deference that the press and public gave to the Queen when she was ill. They need to realize, as they 'modern the monarchy' that more transparency is required to create trust and support if they want to keep doing this.

They have decades of media scrutiny to look forward to in the future. They already know not to pay too much attention to the crazies online. So they aren't going to start now.

One of the reasons some of us find the RF's behavior over this stuff strange is that they are clearly paying close attention to "the crazies online" and they are making an effort to directly address them. I have found it very odd that they have issued repeated "follow-up" statements to clarify things that people on Twitter have been picking apart. Why? They don't normally engage in that at all, and I think they could have just issued their initial statements in this situation and ignored all the rumors.

The fact that they are doing things to directly refute random conspiracy theories on social media is concerning and has made me wonder if some of those conspiracy theories are hitting closer to home than I would have thought. Most are obviously untrue (some are truly wild) but the RF's reaction to this has made me wonder if there is something more going on than just Kate and Charles dealing with medical issues at the same time. They have been behaving in a panicky, guilty way, and I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:You can tell that the photo of Kate's face was taken at a different time than her kids because the light sources are different.



Is this all because Kate's face is swollen from post-surgery steroids so that's why she's hiding it? If so, why don't they just say that???

It's the same lighting.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d guess this all has to do with Charles’ petulant jealousy when the public focuses on Kate. He despised the attention Diana received and still hates being upstaged. Will and Kate have to be careful never to upstage Charles and Camilla. This has to be hard to navigate from a PR standpoint because Charles is a pissy twit and Camilla is a hag, former mistress.

My guess is that she did have surgery, and Will and Kate wanted a break while Charles and Camilla’s team didn’t want the younger two grabbing the spotlight. Charles always makes bad decisions and his actions got this mess rolling.

But his initial surgery was initially sold as quick. The cancer diagnosis didn't come until after Kate had announced she was stepping back through Easter.

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Anonymous wrote:My hunch is that this is all eating disorder related. See bandaged fingers. I think the Dec 28 hospital visit was for this as there was an acute issue stemming from eating disorder. I believe she really did have abdominal surgery and perhaps things were more complicated internally due to the years of abuse. I think things were very serious medically. She is now in rehab and gaining weight (possibly with feeding tube). She may not agree with the treatment protocols and is embarrassed about being seen with the weight gain, though of course she shouldn't be - but that is the disordered mind talking. She is upset and refusing to go along with being seen right now. There may be marital issues on top of this but I suspect that the eating disorder is the main issue. If this is the situation, I feel for Kate, as she is likely being pressured to "reveal herself" before she is ready and she should take the time necessary to get healthy, and feel comfortable being photographed.

What is your hunch based upon?

My hunch is based on the following 1) google pictures of her with the finger bandages, they are from multiple years. clear signs of bulimia. 2) she looked noticeably thinner in Sept-Nov of 2023 vs earlier in the year 3) if you take the car pic with her mom as real, her face appears to have gained weight 4) there is sensitivity with revealing bulimia / eating disorders because of Diana 5) eating disorder treatments take a long time and are consistent with the timeframe originally given

Also no one visited her in the hospital. Not Wills. Not Mom or Dad. Not Pippa. No one.

Not true. Why are you lying or makings up?

I'm not making anything up. William visited her once, the day after her surgery was announced. No one else from her family did.

How do we know? Because the press was camped outside the hospital and captured Camilla visiting Charles several times a day.

This tells us nothing except RF wanted them to see Camilla but not Kate's visitors.

Also Camilla is a member of the royal family. The Middletons are not. So it's understandable that there would be press coverage of Camilla visiting the King but not of the Middletons visiting Kate.

Then why didn't William visit her?

(I thought Harry/Meghan stans were annoying, but William/Kate ones might be even worse.)

lol! I promise most Kate fans aren't like this! Couple ones are definitely weird though. It's like they can't exist separately.

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Anonymous wrote:You can tell that the photo of Kate's face was taken at a different time than her kids because the light sources are different.



Is this all because Kate's face is swollen from post-surgery steroids so that's why she's hiding it? If so, why don't they just say that???

It's the same lighting.

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Absolutely not. The kids are front lit + from the top right, whereas Kate is clearly side lit.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate cannot win. She issued a statement. She is not in a coma, dead, a hostage or a victim of domestic violence, or getting divorced. I believe the biggest clue that it’s recent, is the lack of her ring. It’s probably still locked up since before her planned surgery. She always wore it in past photos. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. You claim these crazy statements as concern, when you really want it to be something horrible.

She owes the public nothing.

KP didn’t disclose the details about Queen Elizabrth’s diagnosis that led to her death. She knew she was dying. She didn’t die in her sleep. Good for her.

Actually that’s not true.

She owed the British public an heir to the throne. Which she has provided.

She owes the British public patronage of charities and attendance at ribbon cuttings, garden parties, teas, and rounds to meet people her charities serve. And assuming her health condition hasn’t incapacitated her completely, I’m sure she’ll be back at work at some point after Easter.

She doesn’t owe anyone info about her health or pictures of what she currently looks like. I would guess that she’s terribly self-conscious right now about the visual consequences of her health issues.

Listen PP, I get that you are giving her empathy. But the reality is that this is EXACTLY what she signed up for. It's why multiple other exes of both princes abandoned the relationships. It's why MM had a nervous breakdown and basically fled the country. It is a very difficult impossible standard to uphold but it IS the standard and it is one that KM understood very very clearly before going into this arrangement. Which is why she was out there hours after giving birth. She gets it.

The argument isn't about whether or not that is right or reasonable its about what changed. Even with the eating disorder theory there remains deep questions. The fact that she appears completely unwilling to take ANY current photo speaks to something being deeply wrong. Puffiness and weight gain could be photoshopped well and easily and not result in the photo being flagged by news agencies. She could pose in a way that did not show her stomach at all and the public would understand. Her not showing her face is INTENTIONAL. And short of her having had a major facial trauma/injury I don't see any possible explanation beyond her refusal to show it. And outright refusal to show her face, to me, seems like a bargaining chip.

If this was an eating disorder thing she would want the speculation to go away and she would work with them to create some photo that she could live with that would get things to die down. She KNOWS the public wants proof of life. She's saying no. And that is not the KM we have known for the last like, 20 years. So what changed?

Pp here. Yes, exactly. She did sign up for this and has been a good sport until now. Unfortunately, I think what changed is that there has been an unexpected medical diagnosis of a chronic condition. And they don’t know how to handle it and are probably apprehensive, as anyone would be. She’s young, has small children, and has always been beautiful. Maybe she thinks she doesn’t look beautiful? Maybe she’s upset and scared? Maybe william is?

That worked until yesterday. Issuing a doctored photo trying to make something from 5 months ago seem current and then having this car shot with her looking out of frame? That does not pass muster. Because they can ALMOST CERTAINLY take a current photo and photoshop it enough to meet standards and enough to make her look good. The photos TMZ posted, if they are of KM, show that she is essentially still recognizable. That is a woman who could have a professional makeup and hair team and a professional editor churn out an acceptable image. And if she were really scared and dealing with a weird diagnosis, she would want to end this uproar to prevent the absolute deluge of paparazzo likely on their way to London right now to get the shot. Giving a small semi normal morsel in a current photo or quick video is how you take the temperature down. Choosing to look aggressively out the window during the papp photo the palace set up to quell suspicions is the TOTAL opposite of that.

Will dropping out of a family funeral at the last minute with no explanation is the total opposite of that.

The palace tripping over itself to try to explain these things is the total opposite of that.

Something serious is going on, I don't know if its a divorce or an illness but something is amiss.

KP had tried several times to tell y'all to knock it off. They have said she's okay and will return after Easter. They've repeated it.

The Mother's Day picture was routine. Y'all rejected it. No way are they going to give you a different picture or video until after Easter. They said what they are going to do. That's what they are doing.

Y'all? I wasn't even paying attention to this until last week. And I didn't think anything was REALLY wrong until today. The mother's day photo and this car photo to me say something is REALLY wrong. The cacophony of concern is reaching people like me who don't pay attention to anything royal until it seems like not just something the crazies are talking about but actual news. If there WAS truly nothing wrong, they would be doing something real to counteract it. This smells more like the H&M drama where there was a lot of smoke and despite KP's press releases, it turned out they were in fact trying to hide a giant bonfire.

They did. See the joint instagram post from this morning. This is how they counteract.

I think they are still unfortunately playing the same game and expect the same deference that the press and public gave to the Queen when she was ill. They need to realize, as they 'modern the monarchy' that more transparency is required to create trust and support if they want to keep doing this.

They have decades of media scrutiny to look forward to in the future. They already know not to pay too much attention to the crazies online. So they aren't going to start now.

One of the reasons some of us find the RF's behavior over this stuff strange is that they are clearly paying close attention to "the crazies online" and they are making an effort to directly address them. I have found it very odd that they have issued repeated "follow-up" statements to clarify things that people on Twitter have been picking apart. Why? They don't normally engage in that at all, and I think they could have just issued their initial statements in this situation and ignored all the rumors.

The fact that they are doing things to directly refute random conspiracy theories on social media is concerning and has made me wonder if some of those conspiracy theories are hitting closer to home than I would have thought. Most are obviously untrue (some are truly wild) but the RF's reaction to this has made me wonder if there is something more going on than just Kate and Charles dealing with medical issues at the same time. They have been behaving in a panicky, guilty way, and I don't get it.

Accusing Kate of being in a coma on TV? The craziness has been next level. KP has responded, yee, but they've only been trying to deescalate, not to directly address.