Kavanaugh Accuser reveals her Identity

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Anonymous wrote:Could tide be turning? Republican startegist who was thrilled with Kavanaugh's nomination is asking him to withdraw in light of this accusation...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/brett-kavanaugh-should-withdraw-his-nomination-good-supreme-court-country-ncna910221

When President Donald Trump nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh to replace Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court, I was thrilled. The judge has a resume that makes him unquestionably qualified to sit on the highest court in the land.

Further, I have found the attacks on him made by Democrats until now to be unfounded or pure spectacle made by politicians engaging in theatrics simply because they knew there were cameras on.

The sexual assault allegations by Christine Blasey Ford are different: After reading them, I can no longer support Kavanaugh’s nomination and have concluded that for the good of the country, he must withdraw.

But the political shenanigans around Kavanaugh's nomination do not give us a pass to take Ford’s allegation of attempted sexual assault lightly.

This entire sad ordeal is reminiscent of a scene 27 years ago when Clarence Thomas was accused of sexual harassment by Anita Hill. While Americans were split on whether or not to believe Hill that Thomas sexually harassed her and he was ultimately confirmed, the accusations follow Thomas to this day — and Ford’s allegations will follow Kavanaugh, too.

Were the Senate to confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, a large portion of the American people would likely view him as illegitimate and challenge the validity of his appointment because of Ford’s accusations. Others, like me, would feel uncertain that his was a worthwhile appointment.

Such a situation is not healthy for our republic.


This guy is not a never-trumper. I am glad to see someone in GOP is putting country over party for at least one time!



Hmm, this plus Kelly Anne Conway saying the accuser "should be heard" strikes me as odd. Why would the Rs cave so easily on this? KellyAnne has always dismissed Trump's accusers. And even I as a very liberal woman don't think Kavanaugh should be withdrawn solely based on this woman's unsubstantiated claim. There's a lot I don't like about him but we can't have mere allegations precluding people from jobs or appointments.

Now if a number of women come out with similar ta;es, suggesting a pattern of behavior, that's another story....


How many credible accounts of attempted rape are sufficient before you think the accuser should be heard before a man is appointed to the Sup Ct for the rest of his life?

+1, I understand how multiple independent accusations can lend credibility to one another, but if there's a chance he did this (and her account seems credible), why should he even get the chance to be a SCOTUS justice?


I’m with you PP, but I think there are a lot of people who will refuse to fully believe one accuser until several more come forward. I am hoping that if there are other women out there, that they will bravely and quickly come forward.


No, I think you can believe one accuser without needing more accusers. But the number goes to whether it is truly a character issues or something less. With BK, we have no evidence now that he is a regular abuser of women. He is not Bill, Weinstein, Cosby, C Rose, Matt L, Senator K. Here, we have one incident in high school, and we do not know what really happened. No rape took place, no cloths were taken off. Maybe, it was attempted assault, but we do not know what really happened in that room. Something happened, at least in her eyes, given the apparent trauma she has experienced. That is very unfortunate. But she does not recall many of the details, like where or when. BK was apparently very drunk.






We don't even know whether Kavanaugh was even in that party. She could easily mixed it up.
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Anonymous wrote:McConnell is complaining that this was not brought up in a regular manner.

STFU McConnell, you didn't bring Garland up in a regular manner either.


McConnell is supporting the Grassley solution - conduct phone interviews outside of public light.

There is already a majority of the Committee and enough to kill the nomination that wants an open hearing.

I think McConnell knows this story is true and doesn't want an open hearing.

I will now expect this nomination be withdrawn. They should have done it before both Kavanaugh and Trump doubled down today. They will both look weak, and frankly, Kavanaugh likely should resign his DC Circuit Court seat.


They are allegations, not facts. It’s not at all clear that you know the difference.


When did PP say they were facts?
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Anonymous wrote:She can’t even say what YEAR this allegedly took place in! Give me a break!


The point is, she may or may not be telling the truth. We don’t have time to figure it out. Kavanaugh is expendable and if there are other reliable conservatives who we can confirm more easily, then we absolutely need to do so. This is not the time for President Trump or Orrin Hatch to stick it to the MeToo movement. Who cares. Just move on. Even if there is a 90% chance that they will confirm Kavanaugh versus a 100% chance for the female judge from Indiana or another reliable conservative, we cannot take the risk. We are talking about the next 40 years of Supreme Court precedent. This is not the time for stubbornness!


Why not? The Thursday deadline is totally artificial. McConnell held Saclia's seat for more than a year. What is a few days to make sure they get it right here?


My point exactly. The Dems have all the time in the world, and have every incentive to draw this out. The Republicans do not, because we need to confirm a Justice by November, in case the House shifts. That’s why I advocate dumping Brett and moving on to the next safer choice.


I have good news for you. The House has nothing to do with confirming a Sup Ct justice. Just the Senate. Which Rs were thought to have great odds of keeping - except that you all keep pretty much screwing up in every way you possibly can. So who knows.

538's current forecast is that Republicans have a 2/3 chance of holding onto the Senate: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=midterms-header
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Why didn't Feinstein raise this with Kavanaugh when she met with him?

This was written by a playwright. Just like the opening session. Totally choreographed.

How in the world can Kavanaugh defend himself? No time. No place. No date--not even a year?

He knows he never did this. That is what he has said. What do you expect from him?

For those of you who say she should be believed........how would you feel if this were you, your husband, your son, your father?

Dems have set up a "no defense possible" situation.



Because the victim asked to remain anonymous. This has been explained a hundred times in this thread.


not sufficient reason in this kind of situation


There is no reason that the Senate cannot investigate the accusation and determine whether the accuser is credible and this account can be further substantiated. There is every opportunity for Kavanaugh to defend himself.
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Why is the president acting Presidential? Someone else wrote this for him!

Trump breaks silence on Kavanaugh allegations
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-breaks-silence-kavanaugh-allegations-192252457.html
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No wonder the Republicans are trying to prevent Kavanaugh's accuser from testifying publicly.

Public hearings could be fraught, especially in a political year marked by surging female political activism and a surge of female candidates. No Republican women serve on the Judiciary Committee, and senior Republican men appeared ready to defend the nominee.

“I believe him,” Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a Utah Republican on the Judiciary Committee, told reporters after a private phone call with Mr. Kavanaugh Monday afternoon. Mr. Hatch said he saw “lots of reasons” not to believe Dr. Blasey’s accusation.

“He is a person of immense integrity,” the senator said. “I have known him for a long time. He has always been straightforward, honest truthful and a very, very decent man.”

“It would be hard for senators to not consider who the judge is today, because that is the issue,” Mr. Hatch continued. “Is this judge a really good man? And he is, and by any measure he is, and everybody who knows him says he is.”
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Anonymous wrote:No wonder the Republicans are trying to prevent Kavanaugh's accuser from testifying publicly.

Public hearings could be fraught, especially in a political year marked by surging female political activism and a surge of female candidates. No Republican women serve on the Judiciary Committee, and senior Republican men appeared ready to defend the nominee.

“I believe him,” Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a Utah Republican on the Judiciary Committee, told reporters after a private phone call with Mr. Kavanaugh Monday afternoon. Mr. Hatch said he saw “lots of reasons” not to believe Dr. Blasey’s accusation.

“He is a person of immense integrity,” the senator said. “I have known him for a long time. He has always been straightforward, honest truthful and a very, very decent man.”

“It would be hard for senators to not consider who the judge is today, because that is the issue,” Mr. Hatch continued. “Is this judge a really good man? And he is, and by any measure he is, and everybody who knows him says he is.”


The Anita hill hearings went on for weeks. This is the last thing Republicans want to dominate the pre-midterms period, especially with a credible professor as a witness. And people understand sexual assault, even if they don't understand Russia.
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Anonymous wrote:No wonder the Republicans are trying to prevent Kavanaugh's accuser from testifying publicly.

Public hearings could be fraught, especially in a political year marked by surging female political activism and a surge of female candidates. No Republican women serve on the Judiciary Committee, and senior Republican men appeared ready to defend the nominee.

“I believe him,” Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a Utah Republican on the Judiciary Committee, told reporters after a private phone call with Mr. Kavanaugh Monday afternoon. Mr. Hatch said he saw “lots of reasons” not to believe Dr. Blasey’s accusation.

“He is a person of immense integrity,” the senator said. “I have known him for a long time. He has always been straightforward, honest truthful and a very, very decent man.”

“It would be hard for senators to not consider who the judge is today, because that is the issue,” Mr. Hatch continued. “Is this judge a really good man? And he is, and by any measure he is, and everybody who knows him says he is.”


Yes, and Rob Porter was a great guy, too. Meaning, who knows whether or not to believe the accuser, but pubic hearings and transparency would be a great place to start.

Given that the POTUS himself doesn't have a great track record with women - you know, the assaults and harassment and infidelity with porn stars who are subsequently paid hush money - the Republicans may be reluctant to pull this thread.
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Additional hearings must be open and televised. Otherwise, it is a cover-up. Where does this dottering old fool Grassley come up with such galactically stupid ideas?
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Anonymous wrote:She can’t even say what YEAR this allegedly took place in! Give me a break!


The point is, she may or may not be telling the truth. We don’t have time to figure it out. Kavanaugh is expendable and if there are other reliable conservatives who we can confirm more easily, then we absolutely need to do so. This is not the time for President Trump or Orrin Hatch to stick it to the MeToo movement. Who cares. Just move on. Even if there is a 90% chance that they will confirm Kavanaugh versus a 100% chance for the female judge from Indiana or another reliable conservative, we cannot take the risk. We are talking about the next 40 years of Supreme Court precedent. This is not the time for stubbornness!


Why not? The Thursday deadline is totally artificial. McConnell held Saclia's seat for more than a year. What is a few days to make sure they get it right here?


They are approaching a critical timing issue. If they don't nominate a NEW justice in the next week or two they won't be able to confirm them by the end of the year.

They have about two weeks and then they're rolling the dice on midterms. If they stick by Kavanaugh only to be looking at a guy with 10 metoo accusations and weeks of trials in a month they're going to be totally stuck with him. And likely unable to confirm him. The more time that passes, the more women get some cajones and the more testimony Blasey gives the harder its going to be to confirm.

So really they have two choices. Ram this through in the next 10 days come hell or high water or pull him right now and have Trump nominate someone new and clean as a whistle tomorrow morning that they can confirm by the end of the year.


McConnell could still get someone confirmed in the lame duck Senate session. There's no law against it. Senators are senators until their terms expire.


Yes, but better if we can maintain pressure on the several vulnerable Dem Senators in red districts to vote to confirm. After the election, that pressure goes away.


Well we all know why they want him. He clearly said he would not impeach a President. They want to keep their naked Emperor in power in his throne of lies.
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Anonymous wrote:No wonder the Republicans are trying to prevent Kavanaugh's accuser from testifying publicly.

Public hearings could be fraught, especially in a political year marked by surging female political activism and a surge of female candidates. No Republican women serve on the Judiciary Committee, and senior Republican men appeared ready to defend the nominee.

“I believe him,” Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a Utah Republican on the Judiciary Committee, told reporters after a private phone call with Mr. Kavanaugh Monday afternoon. Mr. Hatch said he saw “lots of reasons” not to believe Dr. Blasey’s accusation.

“He is a person of immense integrity,” the senator said. “I have known him for a long time. He has always been straightforward, honest truthful and a very, very decent man.”

“It would be hard for senators to not consider who the judge is today, because that is the issue,” Mr. Hatch continued. “Is this judge a really good man? And he is, and by any measure he is, and everybody who knows him says he is.”


Yes, and Rob Porter was a great guy, too. Meaning, who knows whether or not to believe the accuser, but pubic hearings and transparency would be a great place to start.

Given that the POTUS himself doesn't have a great track record with women - you know, the assaults and harassment and infidelity with porn stars who are subsequently paid hush money - the Republicans may be reluctant to pull this thread.


Yes, Orrin Hatch, age 84, who savaged Anita Hill. Let him try it to a white woman and see how voters respond.
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The last time a Democratic nominee to the Supreme Court was confirmed by a Republican Senate was 123 years ago.

Clarence Thomas was confirmed in 1991 by a Senate with 57 Democrats.

But, sure #BothSides.
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Anonymous wrote:Could tide be turning? Republican startegist who was thrilled with Kavanaugh's nomination is asking him to withdraw in light of this accusation...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/brett-kavanaugh-should-withdraw-his-nomination-good-supreme-court-country-ncna910221

When President Donald Trump nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh to replace Anthony Kennedy on the Supreme Court, I was thrilled. The judge has a resume that makes him unquestionably qualified to sit on the highest court in the land.

Further, I have found the attacks on him made by Democrats until now to be unfounded or pure spectacle made by politicians engaging in theatrics simply because they knew there were cameras on.

The sexual assault allegations by Christine Blasey Ford are different: After reading them, I can no longer support Kavanaugh’s nomination and have concluded that for the good of the country, he must withdraw.

But the political shenanigans around Kavanaugh's nomination do not give us a pass to take Ford’s allegation of attempted sexual assault lightly.

This entire sad ordeal is reminiscent of a scene 27 years ago when Clarence Thomas was accused of sexual harassment by Anita Hill. While Americans were split on whether or not to believe Hill that Thomas sexually harassed her and he was ultimately confirmed, the accusations follow Thomas to this day — and Ford’s allegations will follow Kavanaugh, too.

Were the Senate to confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, a large portion of the American people would likely view him as illegitimate and challenge the validity of his appointment because of Ford’s accusations. Others, like me, would feel uncertain that his was a worthwhile appointment.

Such a situation is not healthy for our republic.


This guy is not a never-trumper. I am glad to see someone in GOP is putting country over party for at least one time!



Hmm, this plus Kelly Anne Conway saying the accuser "should be heard" strikes me as odd. Why would the Rs cave so easily on this? KellyAnne has always dismissed Trump's accusers. And even I as a very liberal woman don't think Kavanaugh should be withdrawn solely based on this woman's unsubstantiated claim. There's a lot I don't like about him but we can't have mere allegations precluding people from jobs or appointments.

Now if a number of women come out with similar ta;es, suggesting a pattern of behavior, that's another story....


How many credible accounts of attempted rape are sufficient before you think the accuser should be heard before a man is appointed to the Sup Ct for the rest of his life?

+1, I understand how multiple independent accusations can lend credibility to one another, but if there's a chance he did this (and her account seems credible), why should he even get the chance to be a SCOTUS justice?


I’m with you PP, but I think there are a lot of people who will refuse to fully believe one accuser until several more come forward. I am hoping that if there are other women out there, that they will bravely and quickly come forward.


No, I think you can believe one accuser without needing more accusers. But the number goes to whether it is truly a character issues or something less. With BK, we have no evidence now that he is a regular abuser of women. He is not Bill, Weinstein, Cosby, C Rose, Matt L, Senator K. Here, we have one incident in high school, and we do not know what really happened. No rape took place, no cloths were taken off. Maybe, it was attempted assault, but we do not know what really happened in that room. Something happened, at least in her eyes, given the apparent trauma she has experienced. That is very unfortunate. But she does not recall many of the details, like where or when. BK was apparently very drunk.






We don't even know whether Kavanaugh was even in that party. She could easily mixed it up.

True. Time to start parading everyone else who thinks they were at that particular event. Does the alleged victim remember who hosted the party? Was it her house? His house?
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Collins is forcing a hearing. Something neither Trump, nor McConnell nor Grassley support.

Hmmm.
Anonymous
Sounds like Kavanaugh is playing duck and cover.

Senator Bill Nelson

@SenBillNelson
1h1 hour ago

I’m still waiting for a meeting with Judge Kavanaugh I’ve requested four times. I have a number of questions for him. Meantime, I agree there should be an investigation of the new allegations against him. I believe the people involved should appear before the Judiciary committee.


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