Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?


Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.

We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.


Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.


So the age should be 2?
Anonymous
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maybe she should stop orchestrating every moment of these kids life... she is manic


She's orchestrating every moment of these kids' lives AND she's neglecting them and un-supervising them and letting them wander around dangerous urban areas with parking garages for hours? How does that work?


lol


it's all in the "parenting plan" (which you so conveniently deleted from the post you quoted.)


Which parenting plan?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?


Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.

We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.


Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.

and different politics
governments
different gun laws
different policing strategies
different crime stats
different city layouts
different maternity leaves
lots o' shit is different elsewhere
Anonymous
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So the age should be 2?


Here is the argument:

PP#1: A six-year-old is not ok in that situation.
PP#2: Six-year-olds in the US used to be ok in that situation, and six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation.

If two-year-olds used to be ok in that situation, and two-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation, then I sure have learned something today on DCUM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?


Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.

We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.


Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.

and different politics
governments
different gun laws
different policing strategies
different crime stats
different city layouts
different maternity leaves
lots o' shit is different elsewhere


How about all the other states in America that do not have these laws?
Anonymous
The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?


Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.

We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.


Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.

and different politics
governments
different gun laws
different policing strategies
different crime stats
different city layouts
different maternity leaves
lots o' shit is different elsewhere


Yes, different countries are different. But I don't understand why (for example) the US's shameful lack of universal paid maternity leave would lead to American six-year-olds being uniquely unready to handle themselves on a walk home from the park.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


The point is that it isn't ILLEGAL for them to be walking down the street unsupervised, so the cop overreached his authority by detaining them.


Yes it is illegal. Cop did nothing wrong. How ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?


Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.

We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.


Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.


So the age should be 2?
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A parent should decide not the government. Remember kids 6yrs old were cooking, farming, cleaning, walking miles to school by themselves, and more.

Coddled 6yr olds can't ride a 2 wheeler bike, tie their own shoes, button their pants, wipe their own butt, pour their own drink, make themselves a sandwich, fold their own laundry, play out front of their house by themselves. The only thing that has changed is the parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


The point is that it isn't ILLEGAL for them to be walking down the street unsupervised, so the cop overreached his authority by detaining them.


Yes it is illegal. Cop did nothing wrong. How ridiculous.


Please post the law that says it is illegal.....
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think its strange the 911 call didn't mention the suspicious homeless man.


backpedaling


Nope. Homeless man was seen by cop. Not caller. Again with the conspiracy theories.


Until Petula Dvorak hunts him down and tells us his sob story, I'm going with "alleged homeless man". If there was a sketchy homeless guy lurking around, the 911 caller would have mentioned it.

Not if he didn't see it. Do you think it might be possible the cop knows the homeless guys in the neighborhood better? Nah. Probably a conspiracy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).


Because all homeless people are mental or predators in a helicopter's world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.


They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.


The point is that it isn't ILLEGAL for them to be walking down the street unsupervised, so the cop overreached his authority by detaining them.


Yes it is illegal. Cop did nothing wrong. How ridiculous.


Please post the law that says it is illegal.....


You know it's already been posted. Just because you're incapable of understanding it doesn't mean it isn't there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).


Because all homeless people are mental or predators in a helicopter's world.

You are the only person saying that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).


Because all homeless people are mental or predators in a helicopter's world.


Not at all. Most homeless people are actually housed (in shelters or transitional housing or through other special programs). But the chronically homeless (google it, it's a term of art) who typically live on the street tend to be sex offenders (who aren't eligible for many programs), and/or mentally ill (and prefer to live away from others and as such don't enter the shelter system), and/or are addicts (who can't stay sober and thus can't follow shelter rules).

Yes, the cops in SS know all the homeless people in the area. They are essentially the frontline outreach team for them. They know who is dangerous and who is harmless. And apparently these kids are apt to approach strange men (like the 911 caller), so who knows if they would have approached the homeless guy? Possible...especially if he had a dog (and some of them do).
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