ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Strong possibility ECNL going based off school grade starting 26/27 or at least that’s what their president wants. Argue all you want but it’s going to happen.

ECNL also might get into a college league for University P2P teams.

Soccer is getting ready for a major shift be ready for it.

The policy from us soccer in November 2024 didn’t give permission for this. I understand they can do whatever they want for showcases, those are exhibition games, but can they just do whatever they want across the board?

US Soccer is about like the NCAA. They're almost worthless.

That’s fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Strong possibility ECNL going based off school grade starting 26/27 or at least that’s what their president wants. Argue all you want but it’s going to happen.

ECNL also might get into a college league for University P2P teams.

Soccer is getting ready for a major shift be ready for it.

The policy from us soccer in November 2024 didn’t give permission for this. I understand they can do whatever they want for showcases, those are exhibition games, but can they just do whatever they want across the board?

Policies from US Soccer does not give permission for trapped players playing down in their 8th grade year either, yet ECNL has been doing this within their league for almost a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

[Anonymous]

So true….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

That wasn’t why. It was about international alignment and some noted it might provide a landing spot if ecnl clubs went crazy adding sepQ4 players at the expense of Q2Aug players. It wasn’t really more than that.

[Anonymous]

MLSN was never a "landing spot". If a player coudnt make a NL team they definatly wont make MLS NEXT. The spot families and players should get comfortable with will be the RL teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MLSN was never a "landing spot". If a player coudnt make a NL team they definatly wont make MLS NEXT. The spot families and players should get comfortable with will be the RL teams.

Really depends on the market/age group/club, TBH, especially if its a strong ECNL club where a kid loses a spot, although I'm not sure I buy the whole expected crazy focus on SeptQ4 displacing a ton of people. And yes, MLSN is stronger than ECNL but it's not universal across the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Strong possibility ECNL going based off school grade starting 26/27 or at least that’s what their president wants. Argue all you want but it’s going to happen.

ECNL also might get into a college league for University P2P teams.

Soccer is getting ready for a major shift be ready for it.

The policy from us soccer in November 2024 didn’t give permission for this. I understand they can do whatever they want for showcases, those are exhibition games, but can they just do whatever they want across the board?

They would need to get approval from us club if they wanted to do this. If they really felt strongly about it US Club would bend the knee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just heard MLS academies are adopting the English model? What does that mean?

Where did you hear (or read) that?

Any source, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strong possibility ECNL going based off school grade starting 26/27 or at least that’s what their president wants. Argue all you want but it’s going to happen.

ECNL also might get into a college league for University P2P teams.

Soccer is getting ready for a major shift be ready for it.

I think grade year would be a bad idea just stick to the cut off dates. When you do school grade all kinds of dates can be added …like 1,2 and 3 months older now the youngest kid could be 15 months younger. If that’s the case just chance the cut off dates to June 1 and at that case just go back to Jan 1 and forget the whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Or the kids who come from other countries who are 3 years back in school because they dont speak english.

What could go wrong.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.