Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:There was an interesting article in the NYT today that basically said most Israelis feel like it is 10/8 and don’t understand why they aren’t getting more int’l support.

Meanwhile most people/govts in the world dod support Israel on 10/8, but now after 7 months of killing and starvation are done with Israel.

Israel has lost the support of the world and sure some of that might be due to anti-semitism but the large majority of the reason why most people- people like Joe Biden— are not supporting Israel is they they are perpetrating a humanitarian disaster.

The what aboutism on Russia and China is so weak. Russia is an international pariah too. China is perhaps our leading adversary on the int’l stage, not a country we send billions in aid and weapons to every year.


So what do you want Israel to do to ensure that:

-War stops immediately
-Israel remains safe and secure from threats to its safety and current existence

If any of your solutions involve changing the nature of Israel, you have a motive beyond stopping the killings. You want regime change.


Countries that perpetually grab other peoples land don’t get to live in safety. Retreat to 1967 borders, and then talk. Until then, you’re an occupying power, and those don’t get to live in peace.


Then your side doesn't live in peace either--continually start wars you will be in wars, and the other side will shore up its defenses to protect itself against you, and not give you anything. Rest of the world starts to see a patter of hmm, who is starting a war all of the time then crying "what about our babies!"?


I think what you don’t understand is that it’s not “my side”. I see a people who are being treated really badly, against common human morality, by a country that I thought shared like values. The sarcastic “what about the babies” is hard to read. It’s almost like you don’t think there are babies getting killed. Or mothers starving. Or people being maimed and killed. All of that is real. Whether or not you think those folk deserved it - doesn’t change that many of us don’t.


Ok offer a solution to keep babies alive that maintains status quo for Israel, because that is a solution that can be implemented immediately


Why do you think an ongoing land grab should continue? That’s the status quo, isn’t it?


Then war will continue, because neither side will give in. Insulting Israel to death and being really angry on the internet doesn't work.


Insults don’t kill.


Yes they are a waste of time so why do pro Palestinians love to insult and name call?


Like when the Israeli government call Biden Hamas?
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Anonymous wrote:There was an interesting article in the NYT today that basically said most Israelis feel like it is 10/8 and don’t understand why they aren’t getting more int’l support.

Meanwhile most people/govts in the world dod support Israel on 10/8, but now after 7 months of killing and starvation are done with Israel.

Israel has lost the support of the world and sure some of that might be due to anti-semitism but the large majority of the reason why most people- people like Joe Biden— are not supporting Israel is they they are perpetrating a humanitarian disaster.

The what aboutism on Russia and China is so weak. Russia is an international pariah too. China is perhaps our leading adversary on the int’l stage, not a country we send billions in aid and weapons to every year.


So what do you want Israel to do to ensure that:

-War stops immediately
-Israel remains safe and secure from threats to its safety and current existence

If any of your solutions involve changing the nature of Israel, you have a motive beyond stopping the killings. You want regime change.


Countries that perpetually grab other peoples land don’t get to live in safety. Retreat to 1967 borders, and then talk. Until then, you’re an occupying power, and those don’t get to live in peace.


Then your side doesn't live in peace either--continually start wars you will be in wars, and the other side will shore up its defenses to protect itself against you, and not give you anything. Rest of the world starts to see a patter of hmm, who is starting a war all of the time then crying "what about our babies!"?


I think what you don’t understand is that it’s not “my side”. I see a people who are being treated really badly, against common human morality, by a country that I thought shared like values. The sarcastic “what about the babies” is hard to read. It’s almost like you don’t think there are babies getting killed. Or mothers starving. Or people being maimed and killed. All of that is real. Whether or not you think those folk deserved it - doesn’t change that many of us don’t.


Ok offer a solution to keep babies alive that maintains status quo for Israel, because that is a solution that can be implemented immediately


Why do you think an ongoing land grab should continue? That’s the status quo, isn’t it?


Then war will continue, because neither side will give in. Insulting Israel to death and being really angry on the internet doesn't work.


Insults don’t kill.


Yes they are a waste of time so why do pro Palestinians love to insult and name call?


Like when the Israeli government call Biden Hamas?


You prove my point--if you think this.behavior is deplorable don't engage in it (insults, disrupting, screaming)
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Anonymous wrote:The truth is that Netanyahu and his current right wing government is doing so much harm to Israelis and overall image of Jewish people that I don’t think this can be reversed in the next 50 years. Doesn’t matter which side of the war you are on, Netanyahu and his gang gotta go, read the room people.

No wonder, Israelis are protesting. They can see this idiot has put a target on their backs and he has done everything he can to derail hostage negotiations. I truly feel a lot for people of Israel, Netanyahu is a curse.


I would protest, too, if I knew my nation had become a pariah and my people had become despised all around the world, due to a genocide being waged by blood-thirsty baby killers and unhinged religious zealots who treat others like dirt because they decided they alone were entitled to a land.


So you have an opinion---so do I--I guess we cancel each other out. Or only the people who stand in the street screaming should be adhered to? If so, let us all go stand in the street and scream our opinion.


You already do that.


I don't do this actually

But again, You prove my point--if you think this.behavior is deplorable, characteristic of your enemy, don't engage in it (insults, disrupting, screaming).
Anonymous
Antisemites walked out of the Duke commencement ceremony when Jerry Seinfeld spoke. Going to be hard for you lefties to deny this is antisemitic .

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1789699052923126148?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ
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Anonymous wrote:The truth is that Netanyahu and his current right wing government is doing so much harm to Israelis and overall image of Jewish people that I don’t think this can be reversed in the next 50 years. Doesn’t matter which side of the war you are on, Netanyahu and his gang gotta go, read the room people.

No wonder, Israelis are protesting. They can see this idiot has put a target on their backs and he has done everything he can to derail hostage negotiations. I truly feel a lot for people of Israel, Netanyahu is a curse.


The truth is that anybody who does not support and respect Israel’s right to conduct their current operation and remove the tyrannical Hamas leadership in Gaza, are the Radical Anti-Semitic Islamists who can be ignored.


Yeah, that dog won’t hunt because Hamas leadership is not even in Gaza. And that’s known by everyone. That’s why the rest of us know that (1) you and people like you are either uninformed or intentionally lying; and (2) 10/7 is the pretense being exploited by Israel to continue its vicious genocide of the Palestinian people.


And do you seriously think that Israel is incapable of destroying Qatar and/or Turkey as well in their mission to destroy Hamas?

We are at the beginning of a long, neccisary conflict that will change the Middle East for the better, one that will once and for all center Israel as the Middle East’s primary economic, military, and/or social power.
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Anonymous wrote:Antisemites walked out of the Duke commencement ceremony when Jerry Seinfeld spoke. Going to be hard for you lefties to deny this is antisemitic .

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1789699052923126148?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ
Hopefully the school does the right thing and strips them of their degree(s). Monsters destroying this proud day for so many Jewish students, especially when the school went out of their way to find a proud, pro-Israel Jew to speak at their commencement.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Antisemites walked out of the Duke commencement ceremony when Jerry Seinfeld spoke. Going to be hard for you lefties to deny this is antisemitic .

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1789699052923126148?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ
Hopefully the school does the right thing and strips them of their degree(s). Monsters destroying this proud day for so many Jewish students, especially when the school went out of their way to find a proud, pro-Israel Jew to speak at their commencement.


The only reason a mob of faculty and brown shirts didn't rush him, like what happened to other Jewish speakers after 10/7, is because the US government finally made it clear that sort behavior will be punished.
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Anonymous wrote:Antisemites walked out of the Duke commencement ceremony when Jerry Seinfeld spoke. Going to be hard for you lefties to deny this is antisemitic .

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1789699052923126148?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ
Hopefully the school does the right thing and strips them of their degree(s). Monsters destroying this proud day for so many Jewish students, especially when the school went out of their way to find a proud, pro-Israel Jew to speak at their commencement.


Proud Jewish students were among those who walked out. And, no, we don’t strip people of their degrees for exercising their First Amendment rights because this isn’t Nazi Germany. Kudos to the students who had the courage of their convictions and stood up against genocidal racism and injustice.
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Incredibly tone deaf of Duke to invite a merchant of Palestinian death in the middle of a genocide of Palestinians! Who made that dumb decision?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Antisemites walked out of the Duke commencement ceremony when Jerry Seinfeld spoke. Going to be hard for you lefties to deny this is antisemitic .

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1789699052923126148?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ
Hopefully the school does the right thing and strips them of their degree(s). Monsters destroying this proud day for so many Jewish students, especially when the school went out of their way to find a proud, pro-Israel Jew to speak at their commencement.


Proud Jewish students were among those who walked out. And, no, we don’t strip people of their degrees for exercising their First Amendment rights because this isn’t Nazi Germany. Kudos to the students who had the courage of their convictions and stood up against genocidal racism and injustice.


Racism? This is a geopolitical matter. One self described group to overthrow a country.
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Anonymous wrote:Antisemites walked out of the Duke commencement ceremony when Jerry Seinfeld spoke. Going to be hard for you lefties to deny this is antisemitic .

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1789699052923126148?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ


Nope, it’s not antisemitism. They walked out because Jerry Seinfeld is pro Israel’s actions and they were making a statement that they do not share this view. Being anti Israel’s actions and even anti - Israel is not the same as being antisemitic. Israel does not = Jewish. One is a country the other is a religion.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The truth is that Netanyahu and his current right wing government is doing so much harm to Israelis and overall image of Jewish people that I don’t think this can be reversed in the next 50 years. Doesn’t matter which side of the war you are on, Netanyahu and his gang gotta go, read the room people.

No wonder, Israelis are protesting. They can see this idiot has put a target on their backs and he has done everything he can to derail hostage negotiations. I truly feel a lot for people of Israel, Netanyahu is a curse.


The truth is that anybody who does not support and respect Israel’s right to conduct their current operation and remove the tyrannical Hamas leadership in Gaza, are the Radical Anti-Semitic Islamists who can be ignored.


Yeah, that dog won’t hunt because Hamas leadership is not even in Gaza. And that’s known by everyone. That’s why the rest of us know that (1) you and people like you are either uninformed or intentionally lying; and (2) 10/7 is the pretense being exploited by Israel to continue its vicious genocide of the Palestinian people.


And do you seriously think that Israel is incapable of destroying Qatar and/or Turkey as well in their mission to destroy Hamas?

We are at the beginning of a long, neccisary conflict that will change the Middle East for the better, one that will once and for all center Israel as the Middle East’s primary economic, military, and/or social power.


Are you serious? This is a deeply disturbing post.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The truth is that Netanyahu and his current right wing government is doing so much harm to Israelis and overall image of Jewish people that I don’t think this can be reversed in the next 50 years. Doesn’t matter which side of the war you are on, Netanyahu and his gang gotta go, read the room people.

No wonder, Israelis are protesting. They can see this idiot has put a target on their backs and he has done everything he can to derail hostage negotiations. I truly feel a lot for people of Israel, Netanyahu is a curse.


The truth is that anybody who does not support and respect Israel’s right to conduct their current operation and remove the tyrannical Hamas leadership in Gaza, are the Radical Anti-Semitic Islamists who can be ignored.


Yeah, that dog won’t hunt because Hamas leadership is not even in Gaza. And that’s known by everyone. That’s why the rest of us know that (1) you and people like you are either uninformed or intentionally lying; and (2) 10/7 is the pretense being exploited by Israel to continue its vicious genocide of the Palestinian people.


And do you seriously think that Israel is incapable of destroying Qatar and/or Turkey as well in their mission to destroy Hamas?

We are at the beginning of a long, neccisary conflict that will change the Middle East for the better, one that will once and for all center Israel as the Middle East’s primary economic, military, and/or social power.


Are you serious? This is a deeply disturbing post.


But you want the opposite so isn't it just a matter of perspective?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Incredibly tone deaf of Duke to invite a merchant of Palestinian death in the middle of a genocide of Palestinians! Who made that dumb decision?


He is head of the parents association at Duke. One child attends Duke and the other graduated, so it is a logical choice.

He is humorous and didn’t make any political statements so he is a fantastic choice.

After opening with a few jokes, Seinfeld shared his "three real keys to life," which boiled down to:
Work hard.
Pay attention.
Fall in love.
"Whatever you're doing, I don't care if it's your job, your hobby, a relationship, getting a reservation at M Sushi," he said. "Make an effort. Just pure, stupid, no-real-idea-what-I'm-doing-here effort. Effort always yields a positive value, even if the outcome of the effort is absolute failure of the desired result. This is a rule of life. Just swing the bat and pray is not a bad approach to a lot of things."

I am not on any side but the pro-Palestine tactic of blocking a highways to places like Disney world or other freeways. Or protesting someone saying something not political is absolutely losing them support. I used to be neutral and now have an absolutely negative view toward Palestine protestors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Incredibly tone deaf of Duke to invite a merchant of Palestinian death in the middle of a genocide of Palestinians! Who made that dumb decision?


He is head of the parents association at Duke. One child attends Duke and the other graduated, so it is a logical choice.

He is humorous and didn’t make any political statements so he is a fantastic choice.

After opening with a few jokes, Seinfeld shared his "three real keys to life," which boiled down to:
Work hard.
Pay attention.
Fall in love.
"Whatever you're doing, I don't care if it's your job, your hobby, a relationship, getting a reservation at M Sushi," he said. "Make an effort. Just pure, stupid, no-real-idea-what-I'm-doing-here effort. Effort always yields a positive value, even if the outcome of the effort is absolute failure of the desired result. This is a rule of life. Just swing the bat and pray is not a bad approach to a lot of things."

I am not on any side but the pro-Palestine tactic of blocking a highways to places like Disney world or other freeways. Or protesting someone saying something not political is absolutely losing them support. I used to be neutral and now have an absolutely negative view toward Palestine protestors.


He funded the “we will not be replaced” thugs who attacked peaceful student protesters at UCLA. Also protesters block the street every day in Israel to protest the Israeli government. I guess you have the same hate for these Israelis who block traffic is Israel…lol.
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